Ultimate Hercules

#1 Edited by LeeSensei (396 posts) - - Show Bio
#2 Posted by seekquaze (617 posts) - - Show Bio

@leesensei: Are we sure this is the real one? This Fury tends to lie a lot more than the traditional one. Where did he get "Hercules?" I wouldn't get my hopes up either. From what l remember of Ultimate Thor he tended to talk big and get his butt kicked. I hope Hercules fares better.

#3 Edited by LeeSensei (396 posts) - - Show Bio

There's not a lot of info on him yet, but so far he looks like a more 'serious' character than the mainstream jovial Hercules.

#4 Posted by PowerHerc (85336 posts) - - Show Bio

Well there is finally a Hercules in the Ultimate Universe. It's about time.

I'll be checking this out.

#5 Posted by LeeSensei (396 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerherc: Yeah. It's longover do. But better late then never. Apparently he's supposed to counter Thor. Hopefully he's treated with dignity. Apparently he's still an alcoholic, but in the comic he looks more 'serious' and 'heavy'. He wasn't in a lot of it yet, but they I have a feeling they'll be writing him in a way that's more 'truthful' to the myth. We'll have to wait and see.

#6 Posted by PowerHerc (85336 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerherc: Yeah. It's longover do. But better late then never. Apparently he's supposed to counter Thor. Hopefully he's treated with dignity. Apparently he's still an alcoholic, but in the comic he looks more 'serious' and 'heavy'. He wasn't in a lot of it yet, but they I have a feeling they'll be writing him in a way that's more 'truthful' to the myth. We'll have to wait and see.

I agree; it is long overdue. I like the idea of the Hercules vs Thor rivalry being established in the Ultimate Universe.

I don't know if starting him out as an alcoholic should be considered dignified but I'll reserve judgement.

#7 Posted by LeeSensei (396 posts) - - Show Bio

@leesensei said:

@powerherc: Yeah. It's longover do. But better late then never. Apparently he's supposed to counter Thor. Hopefully he's treated with dignity. Apparently he's still an alcoholic, but in the comic he looks more 'serious' and 'heavy'. He wasn't in a lot of it yet, but they I have a feeling they'll be writing him in a way that's more 'truthful' to the myth. We'll have to wait and see.

I agree; it is long overdue. I like the idea of the Hercules vs Thor rivalry being established in the Ultimate Universe.

I don't know if starting him out as an alcoholic should be considered dignified but I'll reserve judgement.

When I say dignity. I meant a little bit smarter. I love 616 Herc, but some times he shows surprising levels of stupidity and it's distracting.

#8 Posted by PowerHerc (85336 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerherc said:

@leesensei said:

@powerherc: Yeah. It's longover do. But better late then never. Apparently he's supposed to counter Thor. Hopefully he's treated with dignity. Apparently he's still an alcoholic, but in the comic he looks more 'serious' and 'heavy'. He wasn't in a lot of it yet, but they I have a feeling they'll be writing him in a way that's more 'truthful' to the myth. We'll have to wait and see.

I agree; it is long overdue. I like the idea of the Hercules vs Thor rivalry being established in the Ultimate Universe.

I don't know if starting him out as an alcoholic should be considered dignified but I'll reserve judgement.

When I say dignity. I meant a little bit smarter. I love 616 Herc, but some times he shows surprising levels of stupidity and it's distracting.

I understand now.

I agree; Marvel has at times (too many times, really) written Hercules a buffoon instead of a serious character or a fun-loving rogue. Let's hope they avoid any urge to make Ultimate Hercules that sort of buffoon/stupid character.

#9 Posted by seekquaze (617 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree; Marvel has at times (too many times, really) written Hercules a buffoon instead of a serious character or a fun-loving rogue. Let's hope they avoid any urge to make Ultimate Hercules that sort of buffoon/stupid character.

Sadly, the the worse case of this was Chaos War which was meant to be Herc's big claim to Marvel fame...an event dedicated to him and showing he could handle a universal crisis..

#10 Edited by LeeSensei (396 posts) - - Show Bio

@seekquaze said:
@powerherc said:

I agree; Marvel has at times (too many times, really) written Hercules a buffoon instead of a serious character or a fun-loving rogue. Let's hope they avoid any urge to make Ultimate Hercules that sort of buffoon/stupid character.

Sadly, the the worse case of this was Chaos War which was meant to be Herc's big claim to Marvel fame...an event dedicated to him and showing he could handle a universal crisis..

Quite a few Herc fans are bothered by the fact that Herc isn't a Herald level character, but honestly... this bothers me even more. The Hercules in the myths was no where near that stupid. And I know the Marvel character is just based on him, but as a mythology fan it... just bugs me. The one from the myths was successful military commander and was educated by the best teachers the ancient world had to offer.

The child grew up to be a strong youth, and was taught by Amphitryon to drive a chariot, by Autolycus to wrestle, by Eurytus to shoot with the bow, and by Castor to use the weapons of war. Chiron instructed him in the sciences, Rhadamanthus in virtue and wisdom, Eumolpus (or according to another account, Linus ) in music.

I don't want him to be Reed Richards, but much smarter than he's been portrayed in the comics.

#11 Edited by LeeSensei (396 posts) - - Show Bio

@seekquaze said:
@powerherc said:

I agree; Marvel has at times (too many times, really) written Hercules a buffoon instead of a serious character or a fun-loving rogue. Let's hope they avoid any urge to make Ultimate Hercules that sort of buffoon/stupid character.

Sadly, the the worse case of this was Chaos War which was meant to be Herc's big claim to Marvel fame...an event dedicated to him and showing he could handle a universal crisis..

Quite a few Herc fans are bothered by the fact that Herc isn't a Herald level character, but honestly... this bothers me even more. The Hercules in the myths was no where near that stupid. And I know the Marvel character is just based on him, but as a mythology fan it... just bugs me. The one from the myths was successful military commander and was educated by the best teachers the ancient world had to offer.

The child grew up to be a strong youth, and was taught by Amphitryon to drive a chariot, by Autolycus to wrestle, by Eurytus to shoot with the bow, and by Castor to use the weapons of war. Chiron instructed him in the sciences, Rhadamanthus in virtue and wisdom, Eumolpus (or according to another account, Linus ) in music.

#12 Posted by PowerHerc (85336 posts) - - Show Bio

@seekquaze said:
@powerherc said:

I agree; Marvel has at times (too many times, really) written Hercules a buffoon instead of a serious character or a fun-loving rogue. Let's hope they avoid any urge to make Ultimate Hercules that sort of buffoon/stupid character.

Sadly, the the worse case of this was Chaos War which was meant to be Herc's big claim to Marvel fame...an event dedicated to him and showing he could handle a universal crisis..

Quite a few Herc fans are bothered by the fact that Herc isn't a Herald level character, but honestly... this bothers me even more. The Hercules in the myths was no where near that stupid. And I know the Marvel character is just based on him, but as a mythology fan it... just bugs me. The one from the myths was successful military commander and was educated by the best teachers the ancient world had to offer.

The child grew up to be a strong youth, and was taught by Amphitryon to drive a chariot, by Autolycus to wrestle, by Eurytus to shoot with the bow, and by Castor to use the weapons of war. Chiron instructed him in the sciences, Rhadamanthus in virtue and wisdom, Eumolpus (or according to another account, Linus ) in music.

I don't want him to be Reed Richards, but much smarter than he's been portrayed in the comics.

Great points on Hercules' education. I agree 100%.

#13 Edited by Wolfrazer (7740 posts) - - Show Bio

@leesensei said:

@leesensei said:

@seekquaze said:
@powerherc said:

I agree; Marvel has at times (too many times, really) written Hercules a buffoon instead of a serious character or a fun-loving rogue. Let's hope they avoid any urge to make Ultimate Hercules that sort of buffoon/stupid character.

Sadly, the the worse case of this was Chaos War which was meant to be Herc's big claim to Marvel fame...an event dedicated to him and showing he could handle a universal crisis..

Quite a few Herc fans are bothered by the fact that Herc isn't a Herald level character, but honestly... this bothers me even more. The Hercules in the myths was no where near that stupid. And I know the Marvel character is just based on him, but as a mythology fan it... just bugs me. The one from the myths was successful military commander and was educated by the best teachers the ancient world had to offer.

The child grew up to be a strong youth, and was taught by Amphitryon to drive a chariot, by Autolycus to wrestle, by Eurytus to shoot with the bow, and by Castor to use the weapons of war. Chiron instructed him in the sciences, Rhadamanthus in virtue and wisdom, Eumolpus (or according to another account, Linus ) in music.

Also...also you are forgetting 1 detail

*Ahem*

GIVE BACK HIS GOD POWERS! NO MORE DE-POWERING HIM! EVER!!!!!! EVER!!!!!!!

When he gets back to his full power, I BETTER see him tossing around planets and destroying them!! Ok...maybe a little exaggerating there, though it would be pretty funny to see him playing catch with planets.

Also they should display his H2H skills again.

#14 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (35174 posts) - - Show Bio

Well there is finally a Hercules in the Ultimate Universe. It's about time.

I'll be checking this out.

It's a shame they introduce him right when there going to end the universe

#15 Posted by LeeSensei (396 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerherc said:

Well there is finally a Hercules in the Ultimate Universe. It's about time.

I'll be checking this out.

It's a shame they introduce him right when there going to end the universe

They're ending the UU?

#16 Posted by LeeSensei (396 posts) - - Show Bio

@leesensei said:

@leesensei said:

@seekquaze said:
@powerherc said:

I agree; Marvel has at times (too many times, really) written Hercules a buffoon instead of a serious character or a fun-loving rogue. Let's hope they avoid any urge to make Ultimate Hercules that sort of buffoon/stupid character.

Sadly, the the worse case of this was Chaos War which was meant to be Herc's big claim to Marvel fame...an event dedicated to him and showing he could handle a universal crisis..

Quite a few Herc fans are bothered by the fact that Herc isn't a Herald level character, but honestly... this bothers me even more. The Hercules in the myths was no where near that stupid. And I know the Marvel character is just based on him, but as a mythology fan it... just bugs me. The one from the myths was successful military commander and was educated by the best teachers the ancient world had to offer.

The child grew up to be a strong youth, and was taught by Amphitryon to drive a chariot, by Autolycus to wrestle, by Eurytus to shoot with the bow, and by Castor to use the weapons of war. Chiron instructed him in the sciences, Rhadamanthus in virtue and wisdom, Eumolpus (or according to another account, Linus ) in music.

Also...also you are forgetting 1 detail

*Ahem*

GIVE BACK HIS GOD POWERS! NO MORE DE-POWERING HIM! EVER!!!!!! EVER!!!!!!!

When he gets back to his full power, I BETTER see him tossing around planets and destroying them!! Ok...maybe a little exaggerating there, though it would be pretty funny to see him playing catch with planets.

Also they should display his H2H skills again.

I want him to be smart in the comics. At least to the level of his mythological counterpart. But yes... I want him back to classic levels of power and to show H2H skills more often.

#17 Posted by PowerHerc (85336 posts) - - Show Bio

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Also...also you are forgetting 1 detail

*Ahem*

GIVE BACK HIS GOD POWERS! NO MORE DE-POWERING HIM! EVER!!!!!! EVER!!!!!!!

When he gets back to his full power, I BETTER see him tossing around planets and destroying them!! Ok...maybe a little exaggerating there, though it would be pretty funny to see him playing catch with planets.

Also they should display his H2H skills again.

Aye! Verily!

@powerherc said:

Well there is finally a Hercules in the Ultimate Universe. It's about time.

I'll be checking this out.

It's a shame they introduce him right when there going to end the universe

Marvel is ending the Ultimate Universe? Just as Hercules arrives?

Hmph! . . . figures.

#18 Posted by Baberaham_Lincoln (944 posts) - - Show Bio

herc shall return to 616... and join secret avengers... he shall...

#19 Posted by PowerHerc (85336 posts) - - Show Bio

Ultimate Hercules had a pretty good fight against Ultimate Hulk.

#20 Posted by Wolfrazer (7740 posts) - - Show Bio
#21 Edited by BeaconofStrength (6852 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolfrazer: Hercules beat the hell out of an amped Hulk and a crap ton of Galacti-minions at the same time. And he still wanted to fight more. It was badass.

#22 Posted by Wolfrazer (7740 posts) - - Show Bio
#23 Edited by BeaconofStrength (6852 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolfrazer: I'll see if I can find some. Give me a bit. Ultimate Hercules' design may be my favorite Hercules design, too.

#24 Posted by Wolfrazer (7740 posts) - - Show Bio

@beaconofstrength: Neat and if that's the case, Marvel needs to get their butts in gear and repower main Herc already and start giving them nice feats.

#25 Posted by BeaconofStrength (6852 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolfrazer: I kind of wish Hercules was the one wielding Mjolnir, not the female Thor. Hercules hasn't been used in a while, and I thought it'd be cool if they gave him Mjolnir for a while. He's probably the most worthy person in Marvel, and it really disappoints me that he isn't using the hammer, while Thor is unworthy. I think it'd make an interesting story.

At the very least I hope a writer will maybe use him on a street team. It'd be cool to see a depowered Hercules have to rely on his skill, since he's not nearly as powerful as he used to be.

I feel as Marvel didn't know what to do with him, after Chaos War.

#26 Edited by PowerHerc (85336 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolfrazer: I've seen all the scans except the ones showing the end of the fight. I don't know if Hercules wins or not but I understand there is a definite winner. I have yet to get the actual issue but I'm going to.

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