John Valentine said:

"Exusiai said:

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John Valentine said:

"Exusiai said:

"John Valentine said:

"Exusiai said:

"I may be buzzing in a little late on this, but Hellion was rejected by the X-Men.... Rejected by Magneto.... I see him starting his own group "The Hellions" ... I'm sure he could find some way to tap into his Father's fortune, and use that money somehow,

But Starts Assembling a team of mutants that both Summers and Magneto have turned away   He wants nothing more than to be a hero, so he MAY register (God I hate Civil War) ... and Given Government Sanction he'd be Fairly Powerful"

He was'nt turned away as such, the X-Men were disbanded at the time.
Secondly, ALL mutants were inivited to San Fran, including Julian.

Thirdly, Julian was head of the Hellions.

"

Yes he was, but he was not leader of the New X-Men,   and yes he was rejected by the X-Men, read the Divided we stand Cross over, Emma put him to sleep... and Left....  thats Abandoned
"

.............. there were no X-Men to be booted from."

And I quote Divided we stand



Hellion to Magneto  - "Frost put me out telepathiclly.  I woke up an hour later and she was gone.  .....     The X-Men abandoned me"

"

WTF arn't you getting? THERE WAS NO X-TEAM TO BE DISBANDED FROM!"

Wher eis his invitation to jointhe Young X-Men, or Even Like Pixie be upgraded to a Full on X-Man?

they disbanded,and then Knowing he had nofamily they abandonded him, and then they reformed in Sah Fran,.. and made no effort to contact him (Save Cyke's "Mass Message" )  Oh yes Lets Mass message everyone, no no reason to contact someone who helped Defend the School Almost costing him his life more than once..n no We won't call him personally

"

John Valentine said:

"Exusiai said:

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John Valentine said:

"Exusiai said:

"John Valentine said:

"Exusiai said:

"I may be buzzing in a little late on this, but Hellion was rejected by the X-Men.... Rejected by Magneto.... I see him starting his own group "The Hellions" ... I'm sure he could find some way to tap into his Father's fortune, and use that money somehow,

But Starts Assembling a team of mutants that both Summers and Magneto have turned away   He wants nothing more than to be a hero, so he MAY register (God I hate Civil War) ... and Given Government Sanction he'd be Fairly Powerful"

He was'nt turned away as such, the X-Men were disbanded at the time.
Secondly, ALL mutants were inivited to San Fran, including Julian.

Thirdly, Julian was head of the Hellions.

"

Yes he was, but he was not leader of the New X-Men,   and yes he was rejected by the X-Men, read the Divided we stand Cross over, Emma put him to sleep... and Left....  thats Abandoned
"

.............. there were no X-Men to be booted from."

And I quote Divided we stand



Hellion to Magneto  - "Frost put me out telepathiclly.  I woke up an hour later and she was gone.  .....     The X-Men abandoned me"

"

WTF arn't you getting? THERE WAS NO X-TEAM TO BE DISBANDED FROM!"

Wher eis his invitation to jointhe Young X-Men, or Even Like Pixie be upgraded to a Full on X-Man?

they disbanded,and then Knowing he had nofamily they abandonded him, and then they reformed in Sah Fran,.. and made no effort to contact him (Save Cyke's "Mass Message" )  Oh yes Lets Mass message everyone, no no reason to contact someone who helped Defend the School Almost costing him his life more than once..n no We won't call him personally

"

"Vance Astro said:

"I want Hellion dead...he's lame."

"

"Exusiai said:

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John Valentine said:

"Exusiai said:

"

John Valentine said:

"Exusiai said:

"John Valentine said:

"Exusiai said:

"I may be buzzing in a little late on this, but Hellion was rejected by the X-Men.... Rejected by Magneto.... I see him starting his own group "The Hellions" ... I'm sure he could find some way to tap into his Father's fortune, and use that money somehow,

But Starts Assembling a team of mutants that both Summers and Magneto have turned away   He wants nothing more than to be a hero, so he MAY register (God I hate Civil War) ... and Given Government Sanction he'd be Fairly Powerful"

He was'nt turned away as such, the X-Men were disbanded at the time.
Secondly, ALL mutants were inivited to San Fran, including Julian.

Thirdly, Julian was head of the Hellions.

"

Yes he was, but he was not leader of the New X-Men,   and yes he was rejected by the X-Men, read the Divided we stand Cross over, Emma put him to sleep... and Left....  thats Abandoned
"

.............. there were no X-Men to be booted from."

And I quote Divided we stand



Hellion to Magneto  - "Frost put me out telepathiclly.  I woke up an hour later and she was gone.  .....     The X-Men abandoned me"

"

WTF arn't you getting? THERE WAS NO X-TEAM TO BE DISBANDED FROM!"

Wher eis his invitation to jointhe Young X-Men, or Even Like Pixie be upgraded to a Full on X-Man?

they disbanded,and then Knowing he had nofamily they abandonded him, and then they reformed in Sah Fran,.. and made no effort to contact him (Save Cyke's "Mass Message" )  Oh yes Lets Mass message everyone, no no reason to contact someone who helped Defend the School Almost costing him his life more than once..n no We won't call him personally

"

The same has happened to Mercury, Surge, Prodigy etc (allthough they appear in SI, that's hardly a lot).

I'm personally glad that Hellion is not in Young X-Men, he'd probably get ruined."

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John Valentine said:

"Exusiai said:

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John Valentine said:

"Exusiai said:

"John Valentine said:

"Exusiai said:

"I may be buzzing in a little late on this, but Hellion was rejected by the X-Men.... Rejected by Magneto.... I see him starting his own group "The Hellions" ... I'm sure he could find some way to tap into his Father's fortune, and use that money somehow,

But Starts Assembling a team of mutants that both Summers and Magneto have turned away   He wants nothing more than to be a hero, so he MAY register (God I hate Civil War) ... and Given Government Sanction he'd be Fairly Powerful"

He was'nt turned away as such, the X-Men were disbanded at the time.
Secondly, ALL mutants were inivited to San Fran, including Julian.

Thirdly, Julian was head of the Hellions.

"

Yes he was, but he was not leader of the New X-Men,   and yes he was rejected by the X-Men, read the Divided we stand Cross over, Emma put him to sleep... and Left....  thats Abandoned
"

.............. there were no X-Men to be booted from."

And I quote Divided we stand



Hellion to Magneto  - "Frost put me out telepathiclly.  I woke up an hour later and she was gone.  .....     The X-Men abandoned me"

"

WTF arn't you getting? THERE WAS NO X-TEAM TO BE DISBANDED FROM!"

Wher eis his invitation to jointhe Young X-Men, or Even Like Pixie be upgraded to a Full on X-Man?

they disbanded,and then Knowing he had nofamily they abandonded him, and then they reformed in Sah Fran,.. and made no effort to contact him (Save Cyke's "Mass Message" )  Oh yes Lets Mass message everyone, no no reason to contact someone who helped Defend the School Almost costing him his life more than once..n no We won't call him personally

"

I thnik that if he joined the New X-force it would make him mature a lot and that would put him in the spotlight he is leader skills that are more then usefull, plus many people loved is realationship with x-23 so there would be closer wich is obviously needed

i think he should be in x-force itll be cool elixir and hellion again and him in a darker series

"i think he should be in x-force itll be cool elixir and hellion again and him in a darker series
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"I thnik that if he joined the New X-force it would make him mature a lot and that would put him in the spotlight he is leader skills that are more then usefull, plus many people loved is realationship with x-23 so there would be closer wich is obviously needed"

"I want Hellion dead...he's lame."

X-23 is too good for him didn't help either.

I want Hellion to die he annoys me and is a jerk, so kill him in the worst possible way please

X-23 is crazy, not naughty.

Clone jokes ftw!

G-w-D said:

"She follows her mother more in the looks department, and Naughty girls are awesome.i maintain the point she's out of hellions league the best he deserves is X-men academy Pixie level"

Kinney has no genetic influence on X-23 ie her DNA was not user in X-23's creation, merely her surrogate. As Pix pointed out, she's unstable, not naughty.

Hellion is not in her league yet he dated the cuckoos and has kissed both Nori and Sophia? It's doubtfull that he's out X-23's league.

Okay i have to concede to that logic identical blond twins and a latina is quite an acheivement


pixelized said:

"X-23 is crazy, not naughty."

LOL why do people but X-23 on a pedestal? 
 
I digress, I want Hellion to get his arms back!

I'd like to see Hellion get trained by X-Man and they get an ongoing called "X-Man & Hellion"

Hellion needs to team with Kid Omega to form their own team of anti heroes. They're views are very similar. I do believe in utopia that Hellion even wore Omega Gang inspired clothes during the protests. At moments they have both been compared to or have been called the "next magneto". I dont see them as mutant terrorist tho. Not hellion anyway. Risking his life for his fellow mutants and not being afraid to bend the rules while doing so....now that's more align with his character. They (especially Hellion) need to tell the x-men to go f*ck themselves find themselves a small group of outcast mutants (avenger academy rejects like Veil or something to that effect), and the rest will be history. You have all these teams showing the next generation of super heroes. New X men, and Avengers Academy. What about the next generation of brotherhood for evil mutants? Have them start off rocky, wet behind the ears. Have someone learn about their escapades and offers to train them. Someone with some experience. Someone like a resurrected Mystique or Exodus. Kid Omega is an Omega level mutant who's telepathic abilities and intelligence far exceed Professor x and emma frosts....by their own words. He is also a potential host for the phoenix force. Julian has telekinetic control on the molecular level and was originally meant to be written as a potential avatar for the phoenix force. All these two need are a little training which can be fully explored in their own mini or full series. Honestly im surprised that these two haven't had more screen time together. In fact i think the recent holiday wolverine and the x men special is the only time they've been together on panel. Which is shocking considering how much they have in common.

Get him back with Sofia Mantega.

@why_you_mad_tho said:

Hellion needs to team with Kid Omega to form their own team of anti heroes. They're views are very similar. I do believe in utopia that Hellion even wore Omega Gang inspired clothes during the protests. At moments they have both been compared to or have been called the "next magneto". I dont see them as mutant terrorist tho. Not hellion anyway. Risking his life for his fellow mutants and not being afraid to bend the rules while doing so....now that's more align with his character. They (especially Hellion) need to tell the x-men to go f*ck themselves find themselves a small group of outcast mutants (avenger academy rejects like Veil or something to that effect), and the rest will be history. You have all these teams showing the next generation of super heroes. New X men, and Avengers Academy. What about the next generation of brotherhood for evil mutants? Have them start off rocky, wet behind the ears. Have someone learn about their escapades and offers to train them. Someone with some experience. Someone like a resurrected Mystique or Exodus. Kid Omega is an Omega level mutant who's telepathic abilities and intelligence far exceed Professor x and emma frosts....by their own words. He is also a potential host for the phoenix force. Julian has telekinetic control on the molecular level and was originally meant to be written as a potential avatar for the phoenix force. All these two need are a little training which can be fully explored in their own mini or full series. Honestly im surprised that these two haven't had more screen time together. In fact i think the recent holiday wolverine and the x men special is the only time they've been together on panel. Which is shocking considering how much they have in common.

I was just going to say. I think Hellion and Kid Omega should both turn heel and join the next incarnation of the Hellfire Club and kick out those stupid Kade Kilgore kids. Julian Keller was trained by Emma Frost and took the name Hellion, so he has some association with the Hellfire Club in that sense. Kid Omega, he just has a name that sounds like he should belong in the Hellfire Club. Just imagine it...Quentin Quire, Black King of the Hellfire Club.

@AgeofHurricane said:

Get him back with Sofia Mantega.

@Iron_Lad said:

@why_you_mad_tho said:

Hellion needs to team with Kid Omega to form their own team of anti heroes. They're views are very similar. I do believe in utopia that Hellion even wore Omega Gang inspired clothes during the protests. At moments they have both been compared to or have been called the "next magneto". I dont see them as mutant terrorist tho. Not hellion anyway. Risking his life for his fellow mutants and not being afraid to bend the rules while doing so....now that's more align with his character. They (especially Hellion) need to tell the x-men to go f*ck themselves find themselves a small group of outcast mutants (avenger academy rejects like Veil or something to that effect), and the rest will be history. You have all these teams showing the next generation of super heroes. New X men, and Avengers Academy. What about the next generation of brotherhood for evil mutants? Have them start off rocky, wet behind the ears. Have someone learn about their escapades and offers to train them. Someone with some experience. Someone like a resurrected Mystique or Exodus. Kid Omega is an Omega level mutant who's telepathic abilities and intelligence far exceed Professor x and emma frosts....by their own words. He is also a potential host for the phoenix force. Julian has telekinetic control on the molecular level and was originally meant to be written as a potential avatar for the phoenix force. All these two need are a little training which can be fully explored in their own mini or full series. Honestly im surprised that these two haven't had more screen time together. In fact i think the recent holiday wolverine and the x men special is the only time they've been together on panel. Which is shocking considering how much they have in common.

I was just going to say. I think Hellion and Kid Omega should both turn heel and join the next incarnation of the Hellfire Club and kick out those stupid Kade Kilgore kids. Julian Keller was trained by Emma Frost and took the name Hellion, so he has some association with the Hellfire Club in that sense. Kid Omega, he just has a name that sounds like he should belong in the Hellfire Club. Just imagine it...Quentin Quire, Black King of the Hellfire Club.

Save for the fact that Hellion's meant to be a hero.

There are so many things that Marvel could do with Hellion...but I don't think any of the current X-Writers have any plans for him which is unfortunate.

@Gawdzilla said:

There are so many things that Marvel could do with Hellion...but I don't think any of the current X-Writers have any plans for him which is unfortunate.

So true and it's such a shame!

@John Valentine said:

Save for the fact that Hellion's meant to be a hero.

He's meant to be a villain. As Emma Frost said before, Hellion has a "frightening disposition for personal gain and villainy." Plus he's a billionaire. I honestly think Marvel was grooming him to become a member of the Hellfire Club one day. I really would like to see that happen. We're talking about a kid here that approached Magneto to get revenge against his own people. The X-Men have been trying to keep Hellion on the side of good and righteousness.

@Iron_Lad said:

@John Valentine said:

Save for the fact that Hellion's meant to be a hero.

He's meant to be a villain. As Emma Frost said before, Hellion has a "frightening disposition for personal gain and villainy." Plus he's a billionaire. I honestly think Marvel was grooming him to become a member of the Hellfire Club one day. I really would like to see that happen. We're talking about a kid here that approached Magneto to get revenge against his own people. The X-Men have been trying to keep Hellion on the side of good and righteousness.

He loves and cares about his friends too much to go evil...when he and the other NXM are written true-to-character. Not making excuses here. There has been no valid reason presented (or actually any reason WHATSOEVER) for his friends abandoning him. Cessily and Santo just literally stopped hanging around with him, in-between issues. I call it improper writing because their close friendship was established throughout New Mutants, Academy X and NXM...then under writers like Fraction, Liu and Carey it just...stopped, without any story to it. I believe this was done to try and push him down a dark path, but it's kind of sh***y story-telling when a huge part of the story is just skipped over. Kind of like cheating to get where you want to go.

@Iron_Lad said:

@John Valentine said:

Save for the fact that Hellion's meant to be a hero.

He's meant to be a villain. As Emma Frost said before, Hellion has a "frightening disposition for personal gain and villainy." Plus he's a billionaire. I honestly think Marvel was grooming him to become a member of the Hellfire Club one day. I really would like to see that happen. We're talking about a kid here that approached Magneto to get revenge against his own people. The X-Men have been trying to keep Hellion on the side of good and righteousness.

She also said he had great potential for heroism...in the same sentence. Hellion isn't a billionaire anymore, his parents disowned him. Hellfire club? No. Brotherhood of Mutants..yes. You're also talking about the kid who was willing to go up against the fbi to save just one mutant. The x-men haven't been doing much of anything, and that's the problem. Cyclops is too busy being a hypocritical douche. Wolverine is too busy not giving a f*ck. Emma Frost his former mentor is too busy trying to be the whore version of Jean., while trying to pretend she doesn't want to be hit on by namor. He doesnt even have friends anymore. As K2 pointed out, his friends just ditched him for what appears to be absolutely no reason at all. Mercury was like a sister to him, and Rockslide his best pal.. But all of a sudden, oh we're not friends anymore. Anyway..

@John Valentine:@Iron_Lad: I don't know why he has to be either. Hellion has more anti hero qualities, than straight up hero or villain. I can see him running his own team of anti heroes. Degeneration X

@Vance Astro said:

I want Hellion dead...he's lame.

Amen moderator, a-xmen

@why_you_mad_tho said:

@John Valentine:@Iron_Lad: I don't know why he has to be either. Hellion has more anti hero qualities, than straight up hero or villain. I can see him running his own team of anti heroes. Degeneration X

Anti-Hero. Yes.

@why_you_mad_tho said:

@Iron_Lad said:

@John Valentine said:

Save for the fact that Hellion's meant to be a hero.

He's meant to be a villain. As Emma Frost said before, Hellion has a "frightening disposition for personal gain and villainy." Plus he's a billionaire. I honestly think Marvel was grooming him to become a member of the Hellfire Club one day. I really would like to see that happen. We're talking about a kid here that approached Magneto to get revenge against his own people. The X-Men have been trying to keep Hellion on the side of good and righteousness.

She also said he had great potential for heroism...in the same sentence. Hellion isn't a billionaire anymore, his parents disowned him. Hellfire club? No. Brotherhood of Mutants..yes. You're also talking about the kid who was willing to go up against the fbi to save just one mutant. The x-men haven't been doing much of anything, and that's the problem. Cyclops is too busy being a hypocritical douche. Wolverine is too busy not giving a f*ck. Emma Frost his former mentor is too busy trying to be the whore version of Jean., while trying to pretend she doesn't want to be hit on by namor. He doesnt even have friends anymore. As K2 pointed out, his friends just ditched him for what appears to be absolutely no reason at all. Mercury was like a sister to him, and Rockslide his best pal.. But all of a sudden, oh we're not friends anymore. Anyway..

My thoughts exactly. Rockslide was always trolling New Mutants (Sofia's squad), and all of a sudden he and Surge are best friends?

@Kairan1979 said:

@why_you_mad_tho said:

@Iron_Lad said:

@John Valentine said:

Save for the fact that Hellion's meant to be a hero.

He's meant to be a villain. As Emma Frost said before, Hellion has a "frightening disposition for personal gain and villainy." Plus he's a billionaire. I honestly think Marvel was grooming him to become a member of the Hellfire Club one day. I really would like to see that happen. We're talking about a kid here that approached Magneto to get revenge against his own people. The X-Men have been trying to keep Hellion on the side of good and righteousness.

She also said he had great potential for heroism...in the same sentence. Hellion isn't a billionaire anymore, his parents disowned him. Hellfire club? No. Brotherhood of Mutants..yes. You're also talking about the kid who was willing to go up against the fbi to save just one mutant. The x-men haven't been doing much of anything, and that's the problem. Cyclops is too busy being a hypocritical douche. Wolverine is too busy not giving a f*ck. Emma Frost his former mentor is too busy trying to be the whore version of Jean., while trying to pretend she doesn't want to be hit on by namor. He doesnt even have friends anymore. As K2 pointed out, his friends just ditched him for what appears to be absolutely no reason at all. Mercury was like a sister to him, and Rockslide his best pal.. But all of a sudden, oh we're not friends anymore. Anyway..

My thoughts exactly. Rockslide was always trolling New Mutants (Sofia's squad), and all of a sudden he and Surge are best friends?

Looks like the gangs back together

Unfortunatlly he will be doomed to a villians role!

@Gawdzilla said:

@Kairan1979 said:

@why_you_mad_tho said:

@Iron_Lad said:

@John Valentine said:

Save for the fact that Hellion's meant to be a hero.

He's meant to be a villain. As Emma Frost said before, Hellion has a "frightening disposition for personal gain and villainy." Plus he's a billionaire. I honestly think Marvel was grooming him to become a member of the Hellfire Club one day. I really would like to see that happen. We're talking about a kid here that approached Magneto to get revenge against his own people. The X-Men have been trying to keep Hellion on the side of good and righteousness.

She also said he had great potential for heroism...in the same sentence. Hellion isn't a billionaire anymore, his parents disowned him. Hellfire club? No. Brotherhood of Mutants..yes. You're also talking about the kid who was willing to go up against the fbi to save just one mutant. The x-men haven't been doing much of anything, and that's the problem. Cyclops is too busy being a hypocritical douche. Wolverine is too busy not giving a f*ck. Emma Frost his former mentor is too busy trying to be the whore version of Jean., while trying to pretend she doesn't want to be hit on by namor. He doesnt even have friends anymore. As K2 pointed out, his friends just ditched him for what appears to be absolutely no reason at all. Mercury was like a sister to him, and Rockslide his best pal.. But all of a sudden, oh we're not friends anymore. Anyway..

My thoughts exactly. Rockslide was always trolling New Mutants (Sofia's squad), and all of a sudden he and Surge are best friends?

Looks like the gangs back together

Oh, yeah!

Keller, stop touching Borkowski's iPad right now!!

@Kairan1979: And in WATXM #1 Hellion was hanging with Glob German. Like Quentin Quire ages ago.

And Quentin tries to hit on Idie in WATXM, to get attention from Roxy in Alpha and Omega and takes off his t-shirt in front of Mercury. And seems like there'll be a red Tyrannosaurus in Avengers Academy, as well as naked Hercules.

Marvel, why do you hate me so much?

@why_you_mad_tho said:

@Iron_Lad said:

@John Valentine said:

Save for the fact that Hellion's meant to be a hero.

He's meant to be a villain. As Emma Frost said before, Hellion has a "frightening disposition for personal gain and villainy." Plus he's a billionaire. I honestly think Marvel was grooming him to become a member of the Hellfire Club one day. I really would like to see that happen. We're talking about a kid here that approached Magneto to get revenge against his own people. The X-Men have been trying to keep Hellion on the side of good and righteousness.

She also said he had great potential for heroism...in the same sentence. Hellion isn't a billionaire anymore, his parents disowned him. Hellfire club? No. Brotherhood of Mutants..yes. You're also talking about the kid who was willing to go up against the fbi to save just one mutant. The x-men haven't been doing much of anything, and that's the problem. Cyclops is too busy being a hypocritical douche. Wolverine is too busy not giving a f*ck. Emma Frost his former mentor is too busy trying to be the whore version of Jean., while trying to pretend she doesn't want to be hit on by namor. He doesnt even have friends anymore. As K2 pointed out, his friends just ditched him for what appears to be absolutely no reason at all. Mercury was like a sister to him, and Rockslide his best pal.. But all of a sudden, oh we're not friends anymore. Anyway..

My thoughts exactly. Rockslide was always trolling New Mutants (Sofia's squad), and all of a sudden he and Surge are best friends?

When he lost his hands might have like'd to see him get his hands again but, I kind of got used to it so I guess I'd like for him to be involved in a major arc .

Not sure but, something big to happen , I love Laura Kinney and Julian thing going on but, he needs to become his own person as well. Get his name out there. :0

I'd like Marvel to stop trolling him.