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Hellion is a comic book character that first appeared in New Mutants #2

Is Hellion's shirt choice in UXM an allusion to Quentin Quire?

Topic started by k2 on June 16, 2009. Last post by k2 1 month, 3 weeks ago.
Post by k2 (117 posts) See mini bio

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Take a look:




Quentin Quire and the Omegas



Hmmm....and Hellion's caption is 'anger issues' in the UXM preview...

O_O


Post by pixelized (67,488 posts) See mini bio

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Maybe he gets to lead his own rebellion as Quentin did.


Post by Mr. Justice (8 posts) See mini bio

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maybe he joins them?


Post by xerox-kitty (4,076 posts) See mini bio

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He probably just moved in and had to accept any hand-me-downs before he had the chance to go spend Worthington's money in the mall. 


Post by k2 (117 posts) See mini bio

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Looking at it again...it's not just the shirt, it's Quire's entire outfit. He's missing the whip though, and the hair (oh why can't he go back to having short hair -.-)

Probably will see more on this. They've gone for the Hellion-goes-bad angle, then.


Post by xerox-kitty (4,076 posts) See mini bio

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I don't mind if Hellion turns bad, but I'd prefer it if he did it in his own style.  Not wearing the cast offs from Quire the Dork.  Hellion is usually more savvy and self-assure that he shouldn't resort to wearing Charlie Brown coloured tank tops.


Post by pixelized (67,488 posts) See mini bio

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i completely agree with that Xerox, but maybe he's trying to make a statement.


Post by Korg (7,323 posts) See mini bio

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The outfit has cultural significance beyond Quentin and his gang in the mutant community. It is how mutants were first depicted in early propaganda posters in the Marvel U.


Post by xerox-kitty (4,076 posts) See mini bio

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Really?  I don't remember those... Where were those??


Post by Korg (7,323 posts) See mini bio

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Looking back, it's actually from an old Daily Bugle cover. Quentin uses it as a template in New X-Men #134.


Post by John Valentine (8,793 posts) See mini bio

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HELLION FTW!


Post by k2 (117 posts) See mini bio

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Yeah, there is no way he would wear that otherwise. I refuse to accept he would if there was no purpose.


Post by Emerald_General_Jai (1,555 posts) See mini bio

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Dude, def missed when this came out. So this is for that whole X-Men/Dark Avengers dark reign thing that's about to go down? We know for a fact Hellion survives long enough to get to it??


Post by John Valentine (8,793 posts) See mini bio

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@Emerald_General_Jai said:
"Dude, def missed when this came out. So this is for that whole X-Men/Dark Avengers dark reign thing that's about to go down? We know for a fact Hellion survives long enough to get to it?? "

It's out next Wednesday. One would assume that this is after Messiah Complex.


Post by k2 (117 posts) See mini bio

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You mean Messiah War, right? Because seeing as the X-men are in California, it's guaranteed to be after Messiah Complex.


Post by John Valentine (8,793 posts) See mini bio

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@k2 said:
"You mean Messiah War, right? Because seeing as the X-men are in California, it's guaranteed to be after Messiah Complex."

Lol, yes I mean Messiah War/Suicide Leper.


Post by greekpimp (31 posts) See mini bio

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@Korg said:
"Looking back, it's actually from an old Daily Bugle cover. Quentin uses it as a template in New X-Men #134. "

Do you have a Scan???


Post by Korg (7,323 posts) See mini bio

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@greekpimp said:
" Do you have a Scan??? "
Yes. Here you are.



Post by xerox-kitty (4,076 posts) See mini bio

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@k2: Here's what Matt Fraction said about Uncanny 513...

Hellion recruits some other disgruntled mutants and outlines his own plan for a more public and more aggressive solution to the mutant problems currently plaguing San Francisco. What made Hellion a good ringleader for this group?

I think it fit his personality and there’s the youth-in-revolt factor. He’s not really one for strategy. He’s okay with getting arrested just as long as a large numbers of people all over the world see it. He’s an angry guy and doesn’t like being told what to do, especially that he can’t go outside because he’s a mutant. Imagine being told you can’t go out after dark because you’ve got brown hair.

So he’s found that not everybody wants to passively resist what’s going on. He’s definitely one of the more headstrong members of the younger X-Men. There’s a reason why he’s wearing the striped Quentin Quire sweater.

The collection of mutants with Hellion are interesting in that they include more notable mutants like Sunspot and Avalanche as well as characters nobody expected to see again -- like Adam X.

Things are getting F’ING EXTREME! [laughs]. It’s a complicated thing that’s going on. It transcends good, bad, and everything else, so it’s all able bodied hands on deck, whether that’s somebody great like Avalanche or Sunspot, or whether its somebody further down the totem pole like Adam X.


Post by Alaric (24 posts) See mini bio

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Hmm, I just hope its not some lame character merge cop-out like with Liz and Firestar in Ultimate Spiderman. Julian is awesome on his own.


Post by k2 (117 posts) See mini bio

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Now I'm hopin that Julian doesn't go the way of Quentin, lol...


Post by xerox-kitty (4,076 posts) See mini bio

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He didn't seem to be wearing it in Utopia part 2, so I guess his 'fashion statement' was over.  I'm still disappointment with Matt Fraction's idea of a 'peace protest', where you ignite everything that stands in your way.


Post by John Valentine (8,793 posts) See mini bio

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@xerox-kitty said:
"He didn't seem to be wearing it in Utopia part 2, so I guess his 'fashion statement' was over.  I'm still disappointment with Matt Fraction's idea of a 'peace protest', where you ignite everything that stands in your way. "

It is Hellion.....


Post by xerox-kitty (4,076 posts) See mini bio

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@John Valentine said:
" @xerox-kitty said:
"He didn't seem to be wearing it in Utopia part 2, so I guess his 'fashion statement' was over.  I'm still disappointment with Matt Fraction's idea of a 'peace protest', where you ignite everything that stands in your way. "
It is Hellion..... "
Yeah I know, but he didn't seem to be wearing the stupid Quentin Quire tank top anymore.


Post by k2 (117 posts) See mini bio

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Actually, he was wearing it. It just looks like a darker shade of orange, and his hair is better. He's still being drawn funny (reminds me of X-men Evo Wolverine)--although it's a great improvement over the first issue (Dodson rocks :-)

Also he's kind of talking like a redneck. I didn't notice Julian using words like " I been" and "Ain't" before. And yes, I agree the flaming protest was hardly a peace demonstration. It's a very Julian thing to do but it's odd he called it 'peaceful', I'd expect him to use a more violent description (like he did in Academy X when he was rescuing Wither from the FBI). Few inconsistencies, but at least Hellion's doing what he exists for: to cause trouble, right? Could be worse.

I hope that Utopia 1 and 2 took place over like one day, or else it means he hasn't changed clothes for a while. EEE-ewww!

And that's my nitpicking. Back to writing 'Reaction Rates: the Iodine Clock Reaction''. Don't tell me that doesn't just get your heart racing!


Post by xerox-kitty (4,076 posts) See mini bio

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@k2 said:
"I hope that Utopia 1 and 2 took place over like one day, or else it means he hasn't changed clothes for a while. EEE-ewww!"
LOL! I was thinking the same thing about their regular unstable molecule costumes.  They almost never change those... And considering how tight-fitting they are, you don't want to borrow any!  Imagine many wedgies poor Psylocke must have...!!

No wonder Julian has resorted to the dorky tank-top ;)


Post by k2 (117 posts) See mini bio

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@xerox-kitty said:
LOL! I was thinking the same thing about their regular unstable molecule costumes.  They almost never change those... And considering how tight-fitting they are, you don't want to borrow any! 
Oh my god. You're absolutely right. They don't have underwear lines either... /gag and think of how sweaty they must get with all the hard physical activity of fighting...
No wonder Julian has resorted to the dorky tank-top ;) "
Clearly a cry for help against the inhumane laundry practices at Xaviers'.


Post by comikusdorkus (24 posts) See mini bio

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I think its starting to look like Julian may make his own mutant team. The only problem, is he is going down a similar road that the brotherhood once took. And there really are some almost surprises in there. I'm glad to see that Match is teaming up with them. I think that these characters have been sitting too long and cant wait to see where they take them now. Can anyone say new codenames?


Post by xerox-kitty (4,076 posts) See mini bio

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@comikusdorkus: Actually, Hellion and a lot of the Young/New X-Men are going to work closely with Rogue as part of X-Men: Legacy's new direction.


Post by John Valentine (8,793 posts) See mini bio

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@xerox-kitty said:
" @John Valentine said:
" @xerox-kitty said:
"He didn't seem to be wearing it in Utopia part 2, so I guess his 'fashion statement' was over.  I'm still disappointment with Matt Fraction's idea of a 'peace protest', where you ignite everything that stands in your way. "
It is Hellion..... "
Yeah I know, but he didn't seem to be wearing the stupid Quentin Quire tank top anymore. "
He was wearing still wearing it, ha. Argh... Fraction sucks anyway. He just changes character's traits to fit his lazy and uninspired plots without reason to do so - Hellion, Iceman, Elixir, Emma etc- enough Fraction, enough.





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