Which one do you prefer?

Ronin.

Ronin

Hard to say they both have qualities, but I would have to go with Hawkeye his original alias

Hawkeye.

Hawkeye.Clint was the man before he took that costume.

" Hawkeye.Clint was the man before he took that costume. "

I would have to go with Hawkeye. Although I can see why he took on the name Ronan, especially after his good friend and boss was "killed".

" Hawkeye.Clint was the man before he took that costume. "

Hawkeye and when the real Cap returns Cap will unite the real Avengers with Thor, Ironman, and Clint back as Hawkeye.

" @Vance Astro said:

" Hawkeye.Clint was the man before he took that costume. "

Agreed. As Ronin, he whines way to much. I mean he still hasn't gotten over Scarlet Witch attacking the Avengers. "

Hawkeye. Hands Down. He's been my favorite character since 1993, when I learned to friggin read. It blows my mind that he has been written so badly out of character and nobody tells Bendis that he's an idiot. But I guess kids eat up that ninja gimmick... even though it never really fit Clint Barton

ronin looks cooler but i like hawkeye better arrows and all that are mean but ya know wat he would get his ass handed to him in a fight with green arrow

He should combine them.He should keep the Ronin costume and later get some trick arrows.

^ i like this idea ronin is bad ass but hawkeyes arrow mixed with some martial arts weapons would make clint properly bad ass

Hawkeye, though i do like the Ronin costume to

I don't understand Ronin

If Ronin carried a bow and arrow I think it would be complete.

" Hawkeye "

Well the Hawkeye costume was certainly doing the trick back in the 90's, but for this more "mature" and generally colorless era of heroes we live in I'd say Ronin. Makes him look more like a bad-ass anyway. Doesn't matter if he took from a girl though, everyone thought she was a man.

Hawkeye, Hawkeye Hawkeye, Hawkeye, Hawkeye, Hawkeye, Hawkeye, Hawkeye, Hawkeye, Hawkeye! I can't even recall the last time Clint cracked a joke that actually made me laugh. Plus he's the worlds mightiest marksman and he rarely picks up a bow anymore! >:( Why just because he isn't Hawkeye anymore does he not rock his bow & quiver? Maybe I would be more fond of him as Ronin if he actually used his full potential, I know he's great at H2H and he's practically a weapons master but it's not him. Ronin got boring fast, faster than Clint as Goliath. I really don't mind Kate as Hawkeye but she could never fill his shoes. And, I couldn't care less about Bulleye playing dress-up. For me, Clint will always be at his best as Hawkeye. 

Hawkeye, hands down. Making him Ronin is completely ridiculous and somewhat offensive to anyone who understands Japanese culture (which Bendis clearly doesn't). Clint has never been a samurai and hasn't lost any master, so the whole Ronin thing just stinks of Bendis thinking the name and the costume are "kewl." 

" Hawkeye, hands down. Making him Ronin is completely ridiculous and somewhat offensive to anyone who understands Japanese culture (which Bendis clearly doesn't). Clint has never been a samurai and hasn't lost any master, so the whole Ronin thing just stinks of Bendis thinking the name and the costume are "kewl."  "

" Plus he's the worlds mightiest marksman and he rarely picks up a bow anymore!

" @Vance Astro: Granted. Although the guys at my LCS, my bud Mario and I after his run in Thunderbolts he'll never be what he once was. IDK if you read it but he took a shock to his central nervous system then took a beating from American Eagle.  His reflexes and coordination are permanently damaged. He probably is okay with using just the bow because he isn't that great at just throwing things anymore. At least not over long distances. :-/  "

Hawkeye. Clint isn't a ninja...and Ronin doesn't even refer to ninja. Know what? I hate the Ronin persona altogether.

" @Vance Astro: Yeah, we took that into consideration. I figured he either caught it cuz Spidey wasn't exactly on his A game or New Ways to Die took place prior to the Steel Spider/American Eagle arc in T-Bolts. Marvels title sometimes don't synch so well. I'm not saying he totally sucks now, he killed rats with his boogers in American Son, he just will never be as quick or accurate as he once was. I'd look for the exact ish in which Osborn states that but I'm lazy. It's like issue Thuderbolts 115 or 116. Also if you read Dark Reign:Elektra you'd notice he was definitely off his game. IDK if you noticed but he's been getting injured a lot lately. :P  "

" @Vance Astro: Think about it prior to T-Bolts he only missed if he wanted to or if he was up against DD. Which would make him go nuts which would usually lead to him getting stomped. I've seen him kill someone at ground level with a penny from the top of the empire state building, plug a grenade's pinhole with a toothpick and some pretty other wild stuff. Now he misses more than ever and it doesn't bother him. I'm telling you he isn't as fast or accurate anymore but he knows it. Why do you think it doesn't bother him much anymore when he misses?    Oh yeah, I can agree with you that it probably doesn't proceed the American Eagle fight but it was the only explanation we could come up with. It was either that or we just face that it's bad writing. :P  (Not gonna lie, New Ways to Die was kinda upsetting.)  "

"and Ronin doesn't even refer to ninja

" @iLLituracy said:

"and Ronin doesn't even refer to ninja

It's not specific to anyone thing and very well could be applied to Ninja. "

 A rōnin ( 浪人 ) was a samurai with no lord or master during the feudal period (1185–1868) of Japan. A samurai became masterless from the ruin or fall of his master, or after the loss of his master's favor or privilege.

" @Vance Astro said:

" @iLLituracy said:

"and Ronin doesn't even refer to ninja

It's not specific to anyone thing and very well could be applied to Ninja. "

The only time I've ever heard Ronin used is when you refer to a students 

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" @Vance Astro said:

" @iLLituracy said:

"and Ronin doesn't even refer to ninja

It's not specific to anyone thing and very well could be applied to Ninja. "

The only time I've ever heard Ronin used is when you refer to a students 

There you go.  (Also in regards to Ninja's.Daredevil is a Ninja and he didn't operate in a clan he was trained by Stick and then the rest of the Chaste later on but he's a solo character,which would make DD a Ronin with his master dead.He's a student of Ninjutsu without a teacher\master) "

" @Vance Astro said:

" @iLLituracy said:

" @Vance Astro said:

" @iLLituracy said:

"and Ronin doesn't even refer to ninja

It's not specific to anyone thing and very well could be applied to Ninja. "

The only time I've ever heard Ronin used is when you refer to a students 

There you go.  (Also in regards to Ninja's.Daredevil is a Ninja and he didn't operate in a clan he was trained by Stick and then the rest of the Chaste later on but he's a solo character,which would make DD a Ronin with his master dead.He's a student of Ninjutsu without a teacher\master) "

Yeah, but we're talking about students in a educational setting. Not students in general. Either way, Clint isn't really Ronin in any sense. His primary teacher was Swordsman and Trickshot [I think], Cap oversaw his teachings as an Avenger, but Cap was hardly a master.  Daredevil received unconventional teachings. He's a ninja in the sense that he moves like one, he has their skills, the ability to operate like they do, but he's hardly a ninja in the sense that he's hired to kill people. That goes without saying. When I was referring to Ninja and clans, I was referring to history, not to comics directly, but even in the comics they operate in clans or organization, which is why even in the comics Daredevil isn't a ninja in the literal sense [well, he wasn't until he became leader of the Hand, now someone can say he's a ninja in the literal sense]. Ronin isn't a title you SEEK to gain. Ronin is a shameful title, is what I was getting at. Ronin usually means that you failed to uphold Bushido or that you failed the entrance exams. When it's applied to other things, it kind of loses it's point because Ronin does not literally mean "Masterless Person" it means "Wave Person". A Ninja without his master is still a Ninja, that's the way that Ninja operate.  Either way, it doesn't to apply to Clint, and it didn't apply to Maya, either. She wasn't a ninja. "

" @iLLituracy said:

" @Vance Astro said:

" @iLLituracy said:

" @Vance Astro said:

" @iLLituracy said:

"and Ronin doesn't even refer to ninja

It's not specific to anyone thing and very well could be applied to Ninja. "

The only time I've ever heard Ronin used is when you refer to a students 

There you go.  (Also in regards to Ninja's.Daredevil is a Ninja and he didn't operate in a clan he was trained by Stick and then the rest of the Chaste later on but he's a solo character,which would make DD a Ronin with his master dead.He's a student of Ninjutsu without a teacher\master) "

Yeah, but we're talking about students in a educational setting. Not students in general. Either way, Clint isn't really Ronin in any sense. His primary teacher was Swordsman and Trickshot [I think], Cap oversaw his teachings as an Avenger, but Cap was hardly a master.  Daredevil received unconventional teachings. He's a ninja in the sense that he moves like one, he has their skills, the ability to operate like they do, but he's hardly a ninja in the sense that he's hired to kill people. That goes without saying. When I was referring to Ninja and clans, I was referring to history, not to comics directly, but even in the comics they operate in clans or organization, which is why even in the comics Daredevil isn't a ninja in the literal sense [well, he wasn't until he became leader of the Hand, now someone can say he's a ninja in the literal sense]. Ronin isn't a title you SEEK to gain. Ronin is a shameful title, is what I was getting at. Ronin usually means that you failed to uphold Bushido or that you failed the entrance exams. When it's applied to other things, it kind of loses it's point because Ronin does not literally mean "Masterless Person" it means "Wave Person". A Ninja without his master is still a Ninja, that's the way that Ninja operate.  Either way, it doesn't to apply to Clint, and it didn't apply to Maya, either. She wasn't a ninja. "

Since when isn't Cap a master of h2h combat? 
I understand what you're saying but I wasn't saying that Clint or Maya were Ninja's.My point was that they are both students of some art for with no masters and I know what the word means.I read the same wiki page you did  :) All i'm saying is that Bendis was just using it in an unconventional sense much like how the movie Ronin with Robert De Niro used it.The basis was a mercenary with no master\employer\boss.My other point was simply that the name didn't just apply to samurais.Which you know. "

I didn't say it as Cap wasn't a master of hand to hand combat, I said it as Cap wasn't that much of a master to Clint.  I barely remember what sense they used Ronin in the movie, but I guess it made sense when it comes to Maya who was thrown into the Japanese underground and didn't have much contact with the Avengers or old contacts. It makes less sense with Clint. "

" @iLLituracy said:

I didn't say it as Cap wasn't a master of hand to hand combat, I said it as Cap wasn't that much of a master to Clint.  I barely remember what sense they used Ronin in the movie, but I guess it made sense when it comes to Maya who was thrown into the Japanese underground and didn't have much contact with the Avengers or old contacts. It makes less sense with Clint. "

Cap is what made Clint Ronin.He taught him to use other weapons other than Swords and arrows and trained him in h2h combat. The name "Ronin" makes sense for Clint when you make that connection and aren't reading so far into it.Bendis meant it as "Masterless Warrior" and without Cap he is masterless.He never makes reference to his training from Trickshot or Swordman or even Black Widow.He credits Cap in that respect.Thus the flashback in Fallen Son where Cap stomps Hawkeye and and tells him he will learn to fight and the short fight with Bucky where he says "Cap taught me that move too".Maya never really had master at all she has photgraphic reflexes.She taught herself to fight. "

Yeah, I actually meant to mention when Cap was teaching Hawkeye, but it never made it into my post. It was the only instance I could think of that had Cap being a dominant master-figure over Clint. Otherwise Clint is usually dismissive and rebellious when it comes to his fellow Avengers and Cap. They've always been more like peers to me. But that's neither here nor there, I understand that it's not a Ronin in the literal sense since...well, he can't be. But it just all feels like such a bastardization of the word. It pertains some meaning to Clint if you factor in Cap and some to Maya if you refer to the movie, but it just seems wrong when you look at the actual meaning of the word. It isn't a fit for either of them. Wolverine makes more sense than either of them do. Sometimes it even feels like Bendis was just all-- "Hey, Ronin sounds cool. Who doesn't like Robert De Niro movies? It has 'nin' in it." "