Havok was the only X-Man to single-handedly defeat the Hulk

#1 Posted by VampireSelektor (746 posts) - - Show Bio

This is fact. Why can't more be done with Havok? Havok has unexplored potential powerwise that deserves to be speculated upon on-panel.  
 
On a related note, how long can the X-Men be lead by the council of Cyclops, Emma Frost, Magento, Xavier, and Wolverine?   Cyclops is turning into Hugo Chavez, Emma Frost is trying her best to support her man despite her previous independent streak, Magneto and Xavier have arguably been traumatized by their forays into corrupt behavior (one more than the other), and Wolverine just isn't a statesman.     
 
It would be interesting to see Havok join the inner council on Utopia, given his experience working with the government and time spent fighting the Shi'ar empire. He may not be as intuitively tactical or mature as Cyclops, but he has potential.  
#2 Posted by SC (13360 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Dazzler has once. I can't recall the specifics though. Unless you really mean X-Man lol and I think Rogue possessed by a Skrull took him out with a touch too. I get your point though and sorta agree! 

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#3 Posted by GL_Medphyll (15 posts) - - Show Bio

Havok now isn't all that good. He's just another Cyclops. Besides the Hulk he beat isn't the same Hulk we have now. (WW Hulk)

#4 Posted by fesak (6981 posts) - - Show Bio

Seems that they're going to start using Havok again, so we'll see.

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#5 Posted by ReVamp (22798 posts) - - Show Bio

Havok... Is a good character, but I don't think I want to see him in any council.
#6 Posted by DEGRAAF (7912 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it would be cool to get his take and opinion about the council of Utopia.
#7 Posted by VampireSelektor (746 posts) - - Show Bio
@SC
Dazzler had help from the Fantastic Four, I think. I can at least say Havok is the only X-Man to defeat the Hulk twice.
#8 Posted by INFLUCATEXE (14 posts) - - Show Bio
@VampireSelektor said:
@SC: Dazzler had help from the Fantastic Four, I think. I can at least say Havok is the only X-Man to defeat the Hulk twice.
Dazzler changed him back to Banner in Dazzler #7, and 1-shotted him out in Hulk Team-Up #1.  
#9 Posted by VampireSelektor (746 posts) - - Show Bio
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Really? Has the issues of Dazzler ever been collected into a graphic novel?
#10 Posted by Night Thrasher (3708 posts) - - Show Bio

Havok is fine right where he is/was, in charge of the Starjammers. He's separated from Scott, so Cyclops doesn't have to be in every issue he's in, or even mentioned. He gets to lead his own team without any real ties to the mutants, so he's distanced from the X-Men. And, if worked out right he can be compared to more powerful characters like Silver Surfer and Gladiator, which puts him actually ahead of Scott on a "galactic importance scale". Also there's the family lineage of leading the Starjammers that fits more with Alex's character than with Scott's. 

#11 Posted by cattlebattle (13363 posts) - - Show Bio

So unnecessary, Hulk is such a chump sometimes
 
Doc Ock gave him a hard time once.....stupid right?

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#12 Posted by sesquipedalophobe (4765 posts) - - Show Bio

@cattlebattle: I remember that. That was when Dr Octopus had adamantium tentacles during the sinister run in Spider-Man, but even Ghost Rider got stomped out.

#13 Posted by cattlebattle (13363 posts) - - Show Bio
@sesquipedalophobe said:

@cattlebattle: I remember that. That was when Dr Octopus had adamantium tentacles during the sinister run in Spider-Man, but even Ghost Rider got stomped out.

The thing is, he had a hard time fighting him.....in the next issue a new writer took over.....looked at that fight and said "what the hell?", and he just had Hulk thunderclap him across the country lol. Hooray for people with common sense
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