"Rev up your Harley" 
 
tee hee

Harley is barely a one-note character; who serves only to be a Joker sidekick. Currently, she's Catwoman's comedy foil.

I love their love relationship , and joker certainly makes mr.punch proud
 
tough love at its best folks

I think it would be cool if they developed her more and she took up another costume and name.  But she needs motivation and aspiration for all of that to make sense.

Believe it or not, the character development of Harley in Countdown was great...and then, they crapped that all out.

Their relationship is better off as it is; not together. Joker is way to crazy. I'm still amazed that Harley Quinn isn't killed off by the Joker. 

Harley is a one note character dependent on others to work properly she is barely a character and the things that could make her work are not touched on just because fans like her she may need Joker but Joker is a stronger character without her.

No, but they work so well together.

Even when she isn't 'Joker's girl' she is partnered up with Poison Ivy, or the others mentioned. She just hasn't ever really been written as an independent force. Part of her fractured mentality is her dependence on the approval of others, on her on & off boyfriend (Joker) or her girlfriends (like Poison Ivy). She's not really respected though, & not too well written in comics. She's just become very familiar a character & fan favorite due to her TV, video game exposure but she's yet to really become a character of real range & depth.

Joker's insane, he has no care for human life.

* spacing out thinking Harley Quinn thoughts *
 
 
 
 
 
^_^ .......
 
huh? what was the question? oh, um, no of course not! her fan base is strong enough and that's all that needs to be said

Their relationship was a bit  controversial , even for comic books (and the series)
being the massive Harley fan I am, I'm glad Harley has come in to her own (well..kind of) and that she isn't recognised as the Joker's arm candy anymore ^_^

Joker works better without Harley but Harley doesn't work better without Joker. I honestly think she only works well as a sympathy character. Don't get me wrong I love the girl but when she's on her own and has nothing to do with Joker...she just losses my interest.

I think it's possible with the right writer, but Harley is mostly written as a one note character so much I don't know if that's easily done.  
 
Isn't she supposed to be a a licensed psychiatrist or something?

Does Harley have any motivation, outside of pleasing Joker, Ivy or Catwoman?  I'd like to see her on her own, as she's the only new character since the Ventriloquist to really make it as a Batman rogue... now more than ever, since the Vent' was killed off for a female replacement. 
 
The one change I've wanted to see with Harley is for her to somehow pick up the illusion casting glasses that belonged to the original Harlequin - Alan Scott's wife.  That would be trippy, and give her a little something of her own - with her psychoanalyst background, imagine the illusions she would cast... brr.

Would much rather see Harley in with Kitty and Ivy than being Joker's stooge.

She may not be a stand alone character, but the whole Sirens dynamic works better for her than being with the J.

Harley should come and go with Mister J as the mood strikes her, she is to him what Catwoman kinda is to Batman: the occasional tease with occasional benefits. I think we should see more of how he's affected by her though...

keep them apart, she's annoying.

" Harley should come and go with Mister J as the mood strikes her, she is to him what Catwoman kinda is to Batman: the occasional tease with occasional benefits. I think we should see more of how he's affected by her though... "

They have a terrible, terrible relationship and there is no doubt in my mind that Harley will get back with him at the drop of a hat. 
 

 
Harley, like a lot of women involved with abusive and criminal men, oddly feels a sense of security and safety around Mistah J. because he embodies the characteristics of the most significant men in her life- her brother and her father. Harley's brother takes her money and doesn't respect her at all and neither does her father. As a matter in fact, her father upset her so much she became involved in the field of psychiatry to understand why he treated her so horribly....which led her to the Joker who gave her the validation no other man ever had. It probably felt so good to be let in on his life, Harley will always be more apt to want to deny his mistreatment of her or try to rationalize it. 
 
Harley's also really troubled with psychotic thoughts and anxieties, she's always listening to different voices, who knows what they'll tell her if she sees Mistah J once again and he has a proposition.
 
I love Harley though, she's awesome.   

She needs him like she needs a hole in the head

I agree that Harley is better without Joker but abusive relationships like this are hard to break.  Joker started out working solo, so he doesn't need Harley.

For a movie? Yeah

"  Harley, like a lot of women involved with abusive and criminal men, oddly feels a sense of security and safety around Mistah J. because he embodies the characteristics of the most significant men in her life- her brother and her father. Harley's brother takes her money and doesn't respect her at all and neither does her father. As a matter in fact, her father upset her so much she became involved in the field of psychiatry to understand why he treated her so horribly....which led her to the Joker who gave her the validation no other man ever had. It probably felt so good to be let in on his life, Harley will always be more apt to want to deny his mistreatment of her or try to rationalize it.   Harley's also really troubled with psychotic thoughts and anxieties, she's always listening to different voices, who knows what they'll tell her if she sees Mistah J once again and he has a proposition.  I love Harley though, she's awesome.    "

" Even when she isn't 'Joker's girl' she is partnered up with Poison Ivy, or the others mentioned. She just hasn't ever really been written as an independent force. Part of her fractured mentality is her dependence on the approval of others, on her on & off boyfriend (Joker) or her girlfriends (like Poison Ivy). She's not really respected though, & not too well written in comics. She's just become very familiar a character & fan favorite due to her TV, video game exposure but she's yet to really become a character of real range & depth. "

" Harley is barely a one-note character; who serves only to be a Joker sidekick. Currently, she's Catwoman's comedy foil. "

Keep her away from him. She's annoying and she ruins his image. It's kind of ... lame to have Joker show affection of any kind.

She is doing well in Gotham Sirens. There is already former sidekick wanting to kill her, Gaggy. Talk about throw back. She already attracted the Creeper and Bat-Mite.  She and Ivy are always entertaining to watch    

She should try to kill him just because. A Harley v. Joker storyline would be awesome. Because in the end it would just be them causing chaos throughout Gotham with everyone trying to stop them. Maybe it could finally end with them being stronger partners than ever before.

" She should try to kill him just because. A Harley v. Joker storyline would be awesome. Because in the end it would just be them causing chaos throughout Gotham with everyone trying to stop them. Maybe it could finally end with them being stronger partners than ever before. "

Harley need a writer that actually care about character development, it been what 14 years? And her personality is even more one-sided than when she was first converted into the comic format.

"I think it's possible with the right writer, but Harley is mostly written as a one note character so much I don't know if that's easily done.   Isn't she supposed to be a a licensed psychiatrist or something? "

It's still kinda weird for me to see her without Joker, but Harley needs to stick with the Sirens. She needs to become more of her own character, other than just some cool chick who dated Joker.

It's one of those abusive relationships where the girl always goes back to the guy for no good reason. Hopefully writers keep the Joker and Harley separate though because I agree that they are much more interesting characters on their own

Would love to see her date Lobo or Ambush Bug or Maybe Booster Gold. Maybe should have her version of the bacherlorette.

 I was just thinkning about there relationship while watching Citizen Kane (obviously similar to the second marriage) Harley does need this time and I'm sure she won't be going back to joker anytime soon although Harley probably will never or should be alone in a series she needs friends and Straight Men to play off of, her just thinking while foiling plans or pulling off stunts would seem boring for her personality. so once she's in limbo and pulled out we can assume she'll be with someone new  or thrown to mister J when the mood strikes, I think that should be her thing like Catwoman; straddle the edges of the law come back for a little poke and tickle with Joker and go back with Ivy it works for someone so fun and complex as Harley.

""Rev up your Harley"  tee hee "

I haven't has chance to read much of sirens, but Harley works best when she's being playful...either as the love-struck moll with Joker, or the over-eager BFF with Ivy. I don't think it's a bad thing that she always seems to need some-one else, as not everyone is a leading man or lady in comics or real life. My only issue with Harley is that she hasn't been given any emotional depth. if you're going to show obsessive abusive relationships, then show the reasons and heartache that go with it.

mhm.

It just feels weird having Harley being apart from the Joker more than having the Joker be apart from Harley.  Harley's character, after all, was in personality and design is parasitic to the Joker.  The Joker has been his stand-alone character as long as he's been around, so in terms of his character, he isn't missing anything without Harley.
 
It is perhaps this design dependence and psychological dependence within the universe of the comics that makes Harley an interesting character both with the Joker, and with him.  While she is with him, she is simply window dressing who serves to further the persona of the "Clown Prince of Cime".  Without the Joker, Harley is left with an existential crisis as to how she can be her own comic book character, and how sher, as a person, can survive without the person upon whom her entire fantasy world of her mental illness is dependant.