Harley and Ivy.. are they ONLY friends?

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#51 Posted by DoN`t_KrAnQ_jUsT_PsYcHoO (315 posts) - - Show Bio

i think the yare just good friends not friends with xtras

#52 Posted by Aronmorales (9434 posts) - - Show Bio

I grew up with the impression that they were bff's, and by golly that's how I want it to stay.

#53 Posted by batarrowlantern (47 posts) - - Show Bio

They are not lezbians or bi except in some drawings where they are holding each other

#54 Posted by UnsolvedParadox (262 posts) - - Show Bio

There's more to their relationship than just partners in crime, but it isn't sexual in nature. I think they're drawn to each other as female criminals who don't waver in their convictions the way that Catwoman does, but it's based on respect rather than romance.

#55 Posted by ClockworkDrago (102 posts) - - Show Bio

 @EisforExtinction: best friends with benefits

#56 Posted by JokerLover93 (6 posts) - - Show Bio
@EisforExtinction said:
" They're totally aren't just friends. They're BEST friends! "
I like this^^
#57 Posted by Ryonslaught (1237 posts) - - Show Bio
@ClockworkDrago said:
"  @EisforExtinction: best friends with benefits "
Me agrees
lol
#58 Posted by Son_of_Magnus (15258 posts) - - Show Bio

Friends with very special benefits =]

#59 Posted by Ryonslaught (1237 posts) - - Show Bio
@Son_of_Magnus said:
" Friends with very special benefits =] "
I can live with that too lol
#60 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29330 posts) - - Show Bio
@EisforExtinction said:
"They're totally aren't just friends. They're BEST friends!"

@Cosmic Sentinel said:
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Harley only has eyes for Mr J.

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#61 Posted by dementedtheclown (747 posts) - - Show Bio

I Think As Far As They Would Go Is Kissing. Even If Ivy Hopes For More.

#62 Posted by burr787 (2504 posts) - - Show Bio

Someone on another website described their relationship as the same as Joker/Harley. Ivy likes to be in control much like the Joker and since Harley is the submissive type, they make a D/s relationship. Where if Ivy wanted to, they would defiantly be more than friends. Whether or not they are is somewhat of a mystery, in the animated series they probably were since they would often share a bed and were shown more tender to one another. But in the mainstream comics....I doubt it, since Harley and Ivy don't team up as much. But with SIrens(which is written by Dini) maybe this theme will come up again. I would like it to, since Harley would survive longer with Ivy than she would with Mr. J. :)

#63 Edited by MysterioMaximus (931 posts) - - Show Bio

People (particularly guys) like to see what they want to see, not what actually happens to be. Poison Ivy is a seductress; this is one of her defining characteristics. Regardless of the gender, this is how she gains the upper hand. This does not equate to lesbianism, nor does feminism. I’m really of the opinion that Ivy puts on a femme fatale performance and that ultimately she’s asexual. She manipulates and schemes, intoxicating with her pheromones in order to gain control, not out of any actual genuine need for true lust, that's a very clever facadem, but out of this desire for power. She's made no secret of her love of exploitation. Thus she subsequently is able to enforce her eco terroristic beliefs ideally without opposition. Harley is a tool to her, though perhaps one she does sincerely care for. Lesbianism is pushing it.

Not to mention Harley very clearly is romantically obsessed with Joker…that speaks volumes. It’s like the people who interpret classic Universal Monsters as being caricatures for homosexuals. They always conveniently tend to leave out the fact that those same monsters are always in love with the female leads.    

#64 Posted by punchline (53 posts) - - Show Bio

Um I do believe that even though Harley has her eyes on Mr. J she has dated other people. For example she for a short time went out with the Creeper. So it is very well possible that something has happened between Ivy and her.

#65 Posted by KenTheProfile (412 posts) - - Show Bio

Does in my mind count?  
 
#66 Posted by Video_Martian (5631 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't see Harley as a lesbian, she's too into the Joker...

#67 Posted by Dracade102 (8167 posts) - - Show Bio
.bump.
#68 Edited by ClayMan88 (2 posts) - - Show Bio

Actually I saw a real comic not a fan fic that shows were this idea came from. It was an alternative world comic were Harley for most of the comic was a super hero working along side Bat Girl and a female Joker. At one point in the comic she tells Bat Girl that Ivy gives her special shots so they can fool around with one another then she implies that people have said Bat Girl has sexual relations with Super Girl. Bat Girl asks who says that? Then she changes her question and says wait never mind I don't want to know and the conversation ends their. The whole comic is basicly one big lez fest. Harley is a lesbian and she is in a 3 way relationship with Ivy and a female Joker. And it is hinted that Bat Girl is in a lesbian relationship with Super Girl.

#69 Posted by TheCrowbar (4286 posts) - - Show Bio
@ClayMan88 said:
" Actually I saw a real comic not a fan fic that shows were this idea came from. It was an alternative world comic were Harley for most of the comic was a super hero working along side Bat Girl and a female Joker. At one point in the comic she tells Bat Girl that Ivy gives her special shots so they can fool around with one another then she implies that people have said Bat Girl has sexual relations with Super Girl. Bat Girl asks who says that? Then she changes her question and says wait never mind I don't want to know and the conversation ends their. The whole comic is basicly one big lez fest. Harley is a lesbian and she is in a 3 way relationship with Ivy and a female Joker. And it is hinted that Bat Girl is in a lesbian relationship with Super Girl. "
And this comic is from Japan or do you have an issue number/name?
#70 Edited by ClayMan88 (2 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheCrowbar: @TheCrowbar said:

" @ClayMan88 said:

" Actually I saw a real comic not a fan fic that shows were this idea came from. It was an alternative world comic were Harley for most of the comic was a super hero working along side Bat Girl and a female Joker. At one point in the comic she tells Bat Girl that Ivy gives her special shots so they can fool around with one another then she implies that people have said Bat Girl has sexual relations with Super Girl. Bat Girl asks who says that? Then she changes her question and says wait never mind I don't want to know and the conversation ends their. The whole comic is basicly one big lez fest. Harley is a lesbian and she is in a 3 way relationship with Ivy and a female Joker. And it is hinted that Bat Girl is in a lesbian relationship with Super Girl. "

And this comic is from Japan or do you have an issue number/name? "
Here I will try and explain it better. I just posted this on another site.
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Many people have asked are Harley and Ivy bisexual and I am here to give them an answer to that question. No they are not. They are just best friends. Now what started this whole thing you may ask. Well it was a comic made by Elseworlds. They are a publication imprint for a group of comic books produced by DC Comics that take place outside the company's canon. The comic was called Batman: Thrill Killer.

Harley in the comic is in a lesbian relationship with a female version of the Joker and at some point in the comic she explains to Bat Girl that her and Ivy have also fooled around with one another. She goes on to say how people have been talking about Bat Girl and her relationship with Super Girl implying that they are in a lesbian relationship as well. Bat Girl quickly ends the conversation from their and doesn't really answer or deny if the rumors are true.

So that is where this whole is Harley and Ivy bisexual or not question is coming from. So in the actual DC universe. Harley is very much straight and Ivy may actually be a-sexual and just likes to be in control and realizes the power of seduction. But that would just be a guess on my part.

#71 Posted by TheCrowbar (4286 posts) - - Show Bio
@ClayMan88 said:


As the Robin Culling Crowbar, I must kill Goatee Robin! I must!
#72 Posted by ChazzaHazza (12 posts) - - Show Bio

I've always been under the impression that Harley was in love with Joker and Ivy was to busy for a real relationship because of her plants and enviromentalism so they just had a casual relationship and *enjoyed* eachother. But it's nothing to serious and they are best friends ~forever~ and always will be (I hope). Though to be honest I hope they fall in love, I love them together.

#73 Posted by EmilyMor1996 (13 posts) - - Show Bio


i find that harley and ivy being homo is just freakin stupid...and dirty they are just comic book characters. harley likes men and well, ivy likes plants. thats it don't make them sound all gross...respect the way its suppose to be...get ya mind out of the gutter

#74 Posted by Capo_Del_Bandito (278 posts) - - Show Bio
According to Paul Dini, who created the bloody character, they're into each other. Whether it's just a "i'm just gay for this person', or if they're both openly bisexual, is left up to the writer of the moment.
#75 Posted by FyreFox (1 posts) - - Show Bio

OK first post but, 
I think from what i have seen which isn't much but sufficient to say that Harley quinn sees her relationship with Poison Ivy as a student-teacher (although a very close and strange one) where there is this other female super villian that she gets along with but her heart is with the Joker . While I think that Ivy sees her relationship with quinn as like the last shreads of her humanity calling out for a friend and quinn is that person and because of that fact there is more. Now I think, yes Ivy is the one who wants a relationship (with or with-out intermercy don't know) and I think that she is hoping for the moment when Joker goes too far and really hurts quinn and leaves her for good , In which quinn turns to Ivy and a relationship (of the dating kind) is formed over the flowing weeks, months? So in that aspect yes they are more than friends but I think only in Ivy eyes but in quinn's eyes no they are just friends . So in short NO they are not more than friends BUT Ivy does and the possibality is there and might be exspored.   But on a side note mabey Ivy loves her plants too much too care about people and it is only a friendship?

#76 Posted by SC (11948 posts) - - Show Bio

They are like Bert and Earnie. Tango and Cash. Xena and... the blonde one... 

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#77 Posted by Feliciano2040 (654 posts) - - Show Bio
@EmilyMor1996: I didn't know two women liking each other was a bad thing.
#78 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (11717 posts) - - Show Bio

who cares? its Harley and Ivy, ya gotta love em either way!!!!!!! 
#79 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (11717 posts) - - Show Bio
@ClayMan88 said:
Actually I saw a real comic not a fan fic that shows were this idea came from. It was an alternative world comic were Harley for most of the comic was a super hero working along side Bat Girl and a female Joker. At one point in the comic she tells Bat Girl that Ivy gives her special shots so they can fool around with one another then she implies that people have said Bat Girl has sexual relations with Super Girl. Bat Girl asks who says that? Then she changes her question and says wait never mind I don't want to know and the conversation ends their. The whole comic is basicly one big lez fest. Harley is a lesbian and she is in a 3 way relationship with Ivy and a female Joker. And it is hinted that Bat Girl is in a lesbian relationship with Super Girl.

no, it was hinted that people THOUGHT batgirl was in a relationship with supergirl
#80 Posted by Joygirl (15330 posts) - - Show Bio

As was said above, Paul Dini stated that their relationship was, in fact, sexual. So... they may be friends... but they certainly aren't "just" friends. They make a cuter couple than Harley/Joker anyway.

#81 Posted by SpideyIvyDaredevilFan26 (4812 posts) - - Show Bio
#82 Posted by Joygirl (15330 posts) - - Show Bio

Why did you bump and almost 2 week dead thread for a worthless gripe nobody will heed?

#83 Posted by SpideyIvyDaredevilFan26 (4812 posts) - - Show Bio

@Joygirl:

I didn;t realize it was that old. I couldn;t help myself. Ivy/Harley threads are as annoying as hell.

#84 Posted by Joygirl (15330 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe you should tell Paul Dini your opinion. >.>

#85 Posted by SpideyIvyDaredevilFan26 (4812 posts) - - Show Bio

@Joygirl:

Okay. I will. I mean, I love Ivy and Harley for that matter, but that doesn't make me think they have a homo relationship. I wasn;t trying to be disrespectful, all I'm saying is that it gets annoying to me after a while.

#86 Posted by SpideyIvyDaredevilFan26 (4812 posts) - - Show Bio

@harleyquinn12:

Clap. Clap. CLAPCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAP

Can I get an Amen?!

#87 Posted by Themaidoflys (2 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok, the point is that if Paul Dini, one of the creators of Harley quinn says that they are more than just friends THEY ARE, actually he says that he wanted to make that clear on the series but that fox and WB wouln´t allow it, and that he try to show how much has he could on it, so if any of you feelt that it was something going on between this two, don´t worry that was the creators intencion!. On comics I can´t said the same ´cause it´s not that clear, I think they are more than friend but that just and opinion until some writer decide the contrary and DC be ok with it. I know that is and old thread, but I needed a god closure.XD

#88 Edited by Joygirl (15330 posts) - - Show Bio

@JoEy9090: Neat. I'm just about to get the end of GCS, sooooo... but yeah, it's no surprise.

"I once asked Paul Dini outright and his answer was, well, yes they do."

--www.harley-quinn.com

#89 Posted by BlackArmor (6121 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes only friends......with benefits

#90 Posted by CATPANEXE (9366 posts) - - Show Bio

#91 Posted by CATPANEXE (9366 posts) - - Show Bio

@JoEy9090: This one dude. Good read if you like Timm style stuff.

#92 Posted by Joygirl (15330 posts) - - Show Bio

Ooh, just finished GCS... yeah, pretty definitive. "Is it because you love me?" It'd be one thing if she had been using random psychological warfare to confuse and distract, but she wasn't. She was pushing specific buttons to get a reaction, and it was the reaction she wanted. They had a thing going.

#93 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

Bedmates

#94 Posted by SpideyIvyDaredevilFan26 (4812 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm going to pretend NOT to throw up at the disgusting prospect of Harley and Ivy as lesbian lovers (Barfs guts out). It's a disgrace to what I consider 2 fantastic characters, and I hope people can get that rare thing called LOGIC through their heads that their not lesbians. It's like saying that Iron Man has a thing for Spider-Man (Barfs guts out again). Which is not true. That's a lie. And so is Harley+Ivy as lovers.

#95 Posted by SpideyIvyDaredevilFan26 (4812 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lantern Prime:

That logic is freaking stupid. Ivy uses her kiss as a weapon, Just cause she used it on Supergirl doesn;t mean she;s sexually attracted to her. If that were true, EVERYONE she kissed would be someone she's sexually attracted to. Plus...She had a boyfriend before she became Ivy. Saying kissing Supergirl makes her gay is like saying Iron Man blasting people makes him gay.

#96 Posted by Joygirl (15330 posts) - - Show Bio

@SpideyIvyDaredevilFan26:

Nope... nothing there.

Also, if you hate this thread so much, why do you keep coming back?

#97 Posted by SpideyIvyDaredevilFan26 (4812 posts) - - Show Bio

@Joygirl:

Oh so because Harley was jokinh around with Ivy (Or legitamely asking. Frankly madame I don't give a damn) that makes her lesbian? Ummm....NO!!! And the reason I come back is to (hopefully) dispel the myths of their relationship

#98 Posted by RainEffect (3240 posts) - - Show Bio

I DARE you to go search the internet for Poison Ivy/Harley Quinn fanfics.  
 
Venture forth into the unknown, IF YOU DARE.

#99 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (11717 posts) - - Show Bio

@SpidyIvyDaredevilFan26: God, we get it your homophobic. Stop resurrecting this thread.

#100 Posted by Imagine_Man15 (1780 posts) - - Show Bio

In my mind they were always "friends with benefits." Harley will never get over her obsession with the Joker, which prevents an actual relationship, but there is a mutual attraction that is sometimes acted upon. However, that is only in my mind and I have absolutely nothing to back it up.

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