New 52

She is a wild card, very intellegent and crazy and she doesnt want to be Joker´s Number 1 Wannabe and domestic violence vitim.

I would rather have my nuts waxed than read New 52 Harley. Comparing her to Harley Quinn from Batman TAS is like comparing Bruce Wayne from the comics to Batman and Robin Bruce Wayne.

Well at least it's an honest answer :)

LOL

So where's Joygirl in all of this?

BTAS Harley.

She's charming, hilarious, adorable, quirky, while also passionate and psychotic. Her interactions and dynamics with characters like Joker, Ivy and even Batman are something I could read/watch all damn day. Plus New 52 Harley wouldn't even exist if it weren't for BTAS Harley.

@modernww2fare:

I never was a big fan of Joker and Harley´s relantionship speacially when he literally did really things to her. I know that she was stockholm syndrome and both are crazy but still there is no reason to domestic violence to happen. Plus on New 52, Harley Quinn was able to briefly trick and run away Amanda Waller and Suicide Squad.

and how can we forget her new slutty look too? At least she's independent right? lol

@ganon15:

Sure you judge her by her look but these clow is more than a punchline and more than meet the eye. Her Harley Essence is still there, give goal and she will unleash hell to get what she want. And her solo book is good and funny.

But was the prostitute makeover necessary?

@ganon15:

I dont know, i didnt design New 52 Harley Quinn.

Okay, originally I was going to compare personality, design, and origin. But this got way too long, so I'll just start with design and work my way up afterwards.

[And remember...the following is rated O for opinion.]

The BTAS Harley is milestones better than the New 52 reincarnation. Plus the fact that this is the original character portrayal.

Design:

Gallery

The BTAS design is simple, it's iconic, and looks better when she is side by side with her beloved Mistah J. However, when redesigning New 52 Harley, they decided to base it off of the Arkham City version. Except they made it overtly sexual and mixed a bit of Joker in there. (I don't know why they would base it off the Arkham City one when the iconic one would've been better). Anyways, put New 52 Harley and Joker together, and it looks like...well, y'know. A pimp and a prostitute. I don't like what message that sends. At all.

I also hate the two toned hair. I don't think that it replaces the jester cap well. I could have compromised with the blonde pigtails with the red and blacktips. (pretty much the same as Arkham City). I liked that Harley could switch in between her clown outfit and her regular identity relatively easily. New 52 Harley can do this, and those who read Harley Quinn #1: Hot in the City have seen it when she was applying for a job. But now it'd take much more to get her back to a normal life, as compared to BTAS, which she could try to be very easily if she wanted to (but doesn't). That sends a more powerful message, in my opinion. Plus I feel the albino skin update is just lazy. Here's why I think so:

It's probably hard to write Harley when she's away from Joker and still have her keep the harlequin identity. Why would she want to wear the costume if she's not with the Joker? However, she did do it in GCS and her solo...but aside from that, in the New 52, they forced her to do it. From the beginning they wanted her away from the Joker...so they gave her the chemical bath, and developed her to be an agent of chaos (like the Joker) so she could be easier to write and keep design when in an ongoing series away from her puddin'.

B:TAS. New 52 Harley is an abomination. The only thing people seem to actually like about her is that she's not with the Joker. That's all fine and dandy, I don't need Harley to constantly appear in tandem with the Joker. But every last essence of her original character and what made her special, fun, cute, unique, hysterical, dangerous, complex, and likable has been torn away in the process by the New 52.

I have little doubt in my mind that New 52 Harley will not stand the test of time. She is a sham of a character, thriving only on her novelty at the moment. Sooner or later, people will grow as fed up with her as I have.

Interesting

She is uninteresting, bland, evil, OOC, poorly written, one-dimensional, slutty and objectified, unlikable and in no conceivable way hot, cute, or charming like the B:TAS Harley.

It's a shame I have to use pics of the New 52 Harley (who looks like a pornstar) for my "Harley vs Black Canary" thread

@spideyivydaredevilfan26:

which books have you read with her ?

@vitalius: Detective Comics #23 and Harley Quinn #2, and a few others whose names I forgot. If you like it, fine. More power to you. I just can't stand it for the life of me.

@spideyivydaredevilfan26:

it is your oppinion.

I lost a friend giving reason to these facts (appeal to the teen male demographic) up in front of her...

@spideyivydaredevilfan26: Then simply read the old school comics or something else entirely, and stop bitching about the new 52. As long as there are fans who like and prefer the new 52 Harley, she'll always be around.

To all those who prefer the original animated series Harley and her jester costume: she and the costume will ALWAYS be classics, but that's all in the past now. It's ancient history. It was perfect for the cartoons and the old school comics, but I highly doubt Margot Robbie will wear the exact same jester costume for the Suicide Squad movie, even though it's rumored she will have multiple outfits, including one that pays homage to the jester costume.

The so-called one night stand with Deadshot was a one-time thing, and yet people still bitch about it. If anything, original Harley was more of a slut than new 52 Harley. According to the original origin story, Harley fucked her way through school without doing any work, and got an internship she didn't even earn at Arkham. Then she allowed herself to be the Joker's victim by believing all his lies, and always crawling back to him despite his abuse and violence.

New 52 Harley, on-the-other-hand, actually worked very hard in school and got accepted to best institutions, but wanted a challenge (Arkham). She didn't believe the Joker's lies, but he still manipulated her by tapping into her past. Unlike the old Harley, new Harley actually became the Joker's victim against her will, and at least she had the intestinal fortitude to leave his sadomasochistic abusive ass.

I do agree, the writers of Suicide Squad ruined Harley by making her a female Joker in the series's continuity. Conner and Palmiotti, however, greatly improved Harley. Her new solo series, which branches off Suicide Squad #15 (DOTF), brings back the funny, ditzy, cuteand quirky (yet a more intelligent, more independent, and stronger) Harley back. It was time Harley moved beyond the shadows of Batman, Joker, and Gotham, and her jester costume was far too tied-in to the Joker. Her new look is more than a symbol of her freedom and independence from the Joker: it's the scars she has to carry for life to remind herself to never go back to her ways of villainy, and strive towards anti-heroism.

As for the "hooker-clown," "pimp-prostitute," "new Harley's a whore," etc comments about her new outfit, take your minds out of the gutter, heads out of your asses, dicks out of your hands, or all of the above. Clearly some of you here have mommy issues with all your misogynist comments. As long as new 52 Harley has fans, she'll always be around. If you can't stand the new Harley, then simply read the old comics, or read something else entirely. New Harley is here to stay.

Batman The Animated Series. New 52 is okay and I really like her redesign, but nothing beats the original.

Does this answer your question?

Sidenote: The link for this art is here. http://orig05.deviantart.net/1b3a/f/2012/055/1/8/harley_the_one_and_only_by_sakura_studio-d4qtqa4.jpg

Still BTAS

I like both, but New 52 Harley is better to me.

This one:

Which New 52 Harley Quinn? For me, Coney Island Harley Quinn (future) > B:TAS HQ > Suicide Squad HQ (present)

BTAS is the best; she's the original.

In DC's Batman White Knight, BTAS Harley is shown kicking New 52 Harley to the curb, accepting Joker as Jack Napier, and sitting down to have a cup of tea with him while matter-of-factly naming off his various mental illnesses and explaining why he never realized she left!She also reveals herself to be someone who has always been in Jack Napier's corner, rooting for him, and loving him despite his Joker personality but not because of it. Now, that's a Harley with heart. I can imagine a Harley like that making friends with Poison Ivy, Two Face, and the rest of Joker "friends." New 52 Harley, nah, she's too much of a charity case. Far from the psycho fame crazed ditzy blonde she's been portrayed as in recent years, this updated version of the classic Harley Quinn is about as crazy as a fox, and that's part of what made Harley such an interesting character to begin with. She was originally portrayed as about as clever as Joker, if not more so, and more than a match for the crazy clown's antics. If she didn't like how Joker treated her, she walked away. That was that. No pining, no crazy antics like trying to shoot him or bite off his lip, usually.

Joker would then spend his time remembering how much more smoothly things ran with her around and would grudgingly welcome her back. There was even one episode in BTAS where Batman thinks Harely is about to try to kill Joker, and it turns out to be a bang flag gun. Joker then holds his arms out, Harley leaps into them, and he shouts, "baby, you're the greatest!" to the utter confusion of Batman and Robin.