Just read latest hulk and I'm pissed off, who the hell if Pym? Bouncing round shouting out "i'm scientist supreme!!" like that means something in marvel continuity?!? Next week he could end up being ant-supreme for all I care. Seriously what has he done (in comparison to the the intelligensia's top 8) to qualify him as top dog?  
 
If it wasn't for some gamma radiation banner would wipe his arse with him, if it wasn't for constant doom/galactus attacks reed would blow his nose with him.  
 
In my opinion Pym doesn't deserve to be scientist supreme and is getting was too cocky. 
 
Discuss!

Have you read Mighty Avengers by chance?

I believe eternity gave Pym the title of scientist supreme. which is why it would be a big deal (not sure about this, I read it on the site somewhere)

Pym=Awesome

" I believe eternity gave Pym the title of scientist supreme. which is why it would be a big deal (not sure about this, I read it on the site somewhere) "

Seriously what has he done (in comparison to the the intelligensia's top 8) to qualify him as top dog?

Not only did he receive the title "Scientist Supreme," but it's good characterization. Intelligence breeds arrogance...the brains compete...of course he's gonna tell all of these other geniuses that he's the SS. I thought it was great.

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Not only did he receive the title "Scientist Supreme," but it's good characterization. Intelligence breeds arrogance...the brains compete...of course he's gonna tell all of these other geniuses that he's the SS. I thought it was great.

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" Seriously what has he done (in comparison to the the intelligensia's top 8) to qualify him as top dog? "

I'm a big fan of new Pym personally. He's one of the main reasons I look forward to Mighty Avengers. I hope he isn't going to be pushed into the background during the Heroic Age, once MA is cancelled.

" I'm a big fan of new Pym personally. He's one of the main reasons I look forward to Mighty Avengers. I hope he isn't going to be pushed into the background during the Heroic Age, once MA is cancelled. "

" I'm a big fan of new Pym personally. He's one of the main reasons I look forward to Mighty Avengers. I hope he isn't going to be pushed into the background during the Heroic Age, once MA is cancelled. "

Its been said that Hank will be a major player in the Heroic age so we know that he ain't getting away, only question is where will he show up.
 
Personally I would have loved it if Slott would have had Bendis' team and included Hank in it

 I want Wasp back.   :'(   

" @brc2000 said:

" I'm a big fan of new Pym personally. He's one of the main reasons I look forward to Mighty Avengers. I hope he isn't going to be pushed into the background during the Heroic Age, once MA is cancelled. "

so in the front of my mind. i looked through the full solicits and dont see his place in there. i hope the talent is just taking a break and plans to reboot MA in the fashion the rest of the titles are getting. that would be sad to lose that book to give Bendis's book more spotlight. "

I think that the leader will turn out to be Steve, considering that its Brubaker's book that would be a no brainer. Wasp would be a good fit for an espionage team and we've seen Brubaker playing with him a little in Reborn but really, I want him to be written by Slott. Even if I'm a way bigger fan of Brubaker's work

"Its been said that Hank will be a major player in the Heroic age so we know that he ain't getting away, only question is where will he show up.  Personally I would have loved it if Slott would have had Bendis' team and included Hank in it "

"I think that the leader will turn out to be Steve, considering that its Brubaker's book that would be a no brainer. Wasp would be a good fit for an espionage team and we've seen Brubaker playing with him a little in Reborn but really, I want him to be written by Slott. Even if I'm a way bigger fan of Brubaker's work "

" I think that the leader will turn out to be Steve, considering that its Brubaker's book that would be a no brainer. Wasp would be a good fit for an espionage team and we've seen Brubaker playing with him a little in Reborn but really, I want him to be written by Slott. Even if I'm a way bigger fan of Brubaker's work "

Him and Banner are full of themselves these days

I don't think they're full of themselves at all...I think the writers are finally starting to focus on just how smart these guys are...for years they've been overshadowed by Richards and Stark and it's about time they got the credit that they deserve and they're letting the rest of the MU know it to

"Him and Banner are full of themselves these days "

" I don't think they're full of themselves at all...I think the writers are finally starting to focus on just how smart these guys are...for years they've been overshadowed by Richards and Stark and it's about time they got the credit that they deserve and they're letting the rest of the MU know it to "

" Him and Banner are full of themselves these days "

Pym is better than Hulk

 he was a founding avenger,   

" @danhimself said:

" I don't think they're full of themselves at all...I think the writers are finally starting to focus on just how smart these guys are...for years they've been overshadowed by Richards and Stark and it's about time they got the credit that they deserve and they're letting the rest of the MU know it to "

They have always been respected  And the brightest in their fields like McCoy and StarkBut overall intellect in all areas They fall short compared to Reed, Doom and the Black Panther "

" @StrongestOneThereIs said:

" Him and Banner are full of themselves these days "

Hear hear! Although to be fair I think Banner deserves a bit of time to enjoy his hulk-less freedom. It's been good seeing Banner show off his brains lately, really putting some focus on how samrt he really is.  I know a lot of people are going to be defensive of Pym given it's in a Pym forum but I'm still not sold on him. Really though I'm not sold on the whole 'scientist supreme' tag either "

" @Nighthunter said:

 he was a founding avenger,   

 Does that really matter anymore? There's been that many avenger's teams (and another due to launch) that most characters have been founding members. Yes I know you're going to say it was the first team but I'm still not impressed "

in what area is Mccoy the best? just curious
   

" @Nighthunter said:

in what area is Mccoy the best? just curious
   

I suppose it's in the area of mutant genetics or something  Have they revealed the full list of 8 smartest? It could end up being pretty controversial. Banner already remarked how Amadeus Cho isn't in the list, although he did state it's according to the intelligensia. Maybe that's the point though, they could overlook someone like Cho thinking he's not smart enough but then their arrogance gets the better of them as he (or someone else they overlook) come up with the solution to beat them.   So far there's Doom, T'Challa, Richards, Beast, Pym & Banner. Have I missed anyone out or are they yet to be announced? "

" @thatlad said:

" @Nighthunter said:

in what area is Mccoy the best? just curious
   

I suppose it's in the area of mutant genetics or something  Have they revealed the full list of 8 smartest? It could end up being pretty controversial. Banner already remarked how Amadeus Cho isn't in the list, although he did state it's according to the intelligensia. Maybe that's the point though, they could overlook someone like Cho thinking he's not smart enough but then their arrogance gets the better of them as he (or someone else they overlook) come up with the solution to beat them.   So far there's Doom, T'Challa, Richards, Beast, Pym & Banner. Have I missed anyone out or are they yet to be announced? "

that would be Sinister, not Mccoy. Or did I miss something?  Amadeus CHo has always been stated as #7 so he is there, if I had to make a wild guess I would say. Reed Richards Doom Tony Stark Hank Pym Bruce Banner T'challa Amadeus Cho  The Leader "

" @Nighthunter said:

" @thatlad said:

" @Nighthunter said:

in what area is Mccoy the best? just curious
   

I suppose it's in the area of mutant genetics or something  Have they revealed the full list of 8 smartest? It could end up being pretty controversial. Banner already remarked how Amadeus Cho isn't in the list, although he did state it's according to the intelligensia. Maybe that's the point though, they could overlook someone like Cho thinking he's not smart enough but then their arrogance gets the better of them as he (or someone else they overlook) come up with the solution to beat them.   So far there's Doom, T'Challa, Richards, Beast, Pym & Banner. Have I missed anyone out or are they yet to be announced? "

that would be Sinister, not Mccoy. Or did I miss something?  Amadeus CHo has always been stated as #7 so he is there, if I had to make a wild guess I would say. Reed Richards Doom Tony Stark Hank Pym Bruce Banner T'challa Amadeus Cho  The Leader "

i think they moved Amadeus down to 10 "

which reminds me:
 
Valeria Richards is now smarter than her dad so yup

" @danhimself said:

" @Nighthunter said:

" @thatlad said:

" @Nighthunter said:

in what area is Mccoy the best? just curious
   

I suppose it's in the area of mutant genetics or something  Have they revealed the full list of 8 smartest? It could end up being pretty controversial. Banner already remarked how Amadeus Cho isn't in the list, although he did state it's according to the intelligensia. Maybe that's the point though, they could overlook someone like Cho thinking he's not smart enough but then their arrogance gets the better of them as he (or someone else they overlook) come up with the solution to beat them.   So far there's Doom, T'Challa, Richards, Beast, Pym & Banner. Have I missed anyone out or are they yet to be announced? "

that would be Sinister, not Mccoy. Or did I miss something?  Amadeus CHo has always been stated as #7 so he is there, if I had to make a wild guess I would say. Reed Richards Doom Tony Stark Hank Pym Bruce Banner T'challa Amadeus Cho  The Leader "

i think they moved Amadeus down to 10 "

When? "

Now I'm torn, Pak both plays the cho is the seventh smartest card on Hercules and the 10th smartest on hulk

Is there an official list as to who the eight smartest people on Earth are?

personally i take those lists with a big grain of salt, and i mean big.
like obviously MODOK and Leader are in there. also theyve had Charles Xavier
in that list from time to time. also in X:Men Endangered Species, Beast tries to find
a solution to the M-Day problem by asking for the help of " the top nine supervillian
geniuses " being  Pandemic, M.O.D.O.K., Spiral and Mojo, Sugar Man, Mister Sinister,
the High Evolutionary, Arnim Zola, and Doctor Doom. this still leaves out X-Club, Forge,
Dark Beast, who is considered at least equal to or above Beasts own intelligence,
Mad Thinker, Doctor Octopus, Norman Osborn (who is rated somewhere below Stark)
Curt Conners, Mandarin, Zemo, ect, ect.
 
the 8 smartest people refers to a list of men (specifically) that generally either work together or
at least off of each other to influence the world, not really the 8 smartest. ( 8 Smartest Men should
be made into a team page actually because theres so many references). notably they are all mortal
and male, which seems to be a requirement for this " clubs " roster...
 
in Hulk #20 Leader confirms in no order:

Reed Richards
Victor Von Doom
Tony Stark
 
in Incredible Hulk 601 in no order:

Bruce Banner
Hank Pym
Amadeus Cho
T'Challa
Hank McCoy
 
so the 8 Smartest Men are in no order, except Cho of course

Reed Richards
Victor Von Doom
Tony Stark   
Bruce Banner
Hank Pym
T'Challa
Hank McCoy   
Amadeus Cho
 
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Incredible Hulk 607:
in referring to Cho being the tenth, Banner is adding MODOK and Leader to the list,
but doing so technically, not officially. 
 
@Nighthunter said:

" Now I'm torn, Pak both plays the cho is the seventh smartest card on Hercules and the 10th smartest on hulk "

" @danhimself said: 

i think they moved Amadeus down to 10 "

When? "

I actually have a new found respect for Pym. After flipping through the newest Mighty Avengers when he fooled Osborn to believe he already used the cosmic cube.. that was great. Its about time they use his insanity against him.

" @DEGRAAF: on the 616 earth not marvel in general though. I mainly think this list is for all around intelligence because in some aspects they each are better then the other and at the same time there are people who surpass them in varies ways, my main point keep in mind that Dr. Doom is the only well known magic user on this list and you have to remember magic is an ex factor, a person can learn everything it took you years to learn in a matter of seconds. So I feel this not only applies to just basic smarts, there is book smarts, common sense smarts, and street smarts adding to the equation as well. I think they are the top 8 because they have proven themselves in a number of ways. Anyway when it comes down to it it doesn't matter how smart you are, its whether you're smart enough to know how to use it right. "

Just to throw it out there, Banner did say to the Leader in Incredible Hulk 610 that Cho was one of the eight smartest people.

Hank Pym has the privilege to be cocky. He is a super-genius and has created the most advanced A.I. in Marvel Earth, as far as I know. He has discovered Pym Particles (which, as stated before, defies physics), outsmarted Reed, and was named scientist supreme. Yeah...I think he has the right to be cocky.

I love him with cho