Hank Pym NOT a Wife beater?!

Posted by Darknom2 (21 posts) - - Show Bio

  Avengers #213,  written by Jim Shooter and penciled by Bob Hall -  
Hank Pym AKA Ant-Man AKA Giant-Man AKA Goliath AKA Yellowjacket AKA The Wasp...Get's mad and  slaps his wife -  Janet Van Dyne aka The Wasp. 
It was a giant event (get it? giant?...) and changed Hank's life forever 
  

But on   Tuesday, March 29, 2011, Jim says   on his blog -    
"There is a scene in which Hank is supposed to have accidentally struck Jan while throwing his hands up in despair and frustration—making a sort of “get away from me” gesture while not looking at her. Bob Hall, who had been taught by John Buscema to always go for the most extreme action, turned that into a right cross! There was no time to have it redrawn, which, to this day has caused the tragic story of Hank Pym to be known as the “wife-beater” story  " 
   
He lived life trying to fix his mistake    
Hank slap his wife . Ultimate Hank Kicked her ass
Hank said he and Janet  decided not to have kids because of his mental health.  
He opend a safe house for beat womens in Janet's name
All this for crime crime he didn't commit or wasn't suppose to commit. 
#1 Posted by xerox_kitty (15760 posts) - - Show Bio

I didn't know that was the origin of this famous scene. 

But the important thing for his character is that he did do it & that writers have stuck with it (instead of taking the easy option of retconning it).  Even to this day he still reels from the ramifications of his actions in the past.  An accidental story turned in to more depth of character.

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#2 Edited by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio

Hank Pym is one of my favourite Marvel characters, and I think that moment of immense weakness, which he has worked his entire life to atone, really shows who he is as a person. The amount of times Reed has hit Sue and alike has been overlooked, but Hank always owned up to his action and he lives with it every day of his life. 
 
Whether it was intended or not, it's an important part of his history, and it shouldn't be forgotten, though it shouldn't it be his defining moment either.

#3 Posted by aussiebushwacker (68 posts) - - Show Bio

interesting good that they stuck makes their stories far more intriguing. they could have ended up very bland characters. this helped to cement more depth. this can be shown for their weaknesses and their strenght to deal with it.
#4 Posted by ir0neagle (2 posts) - - Show Bio

It's unfortunate that he's been branded with this image but hey it's made him a better character for it. People always jump to it saying Pym's a wife beater but there's so much more to him than that, I think it's great that the writers stuck by it and gave him depth.  

#5 Posted by Aronmorales (9434 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow, I never knew...

#6 Posted by Vance Astro (90727 posts) - - Show Bio

Pretty much every character has slapped or hit their significant other at some point.

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#7 Posted by LordMaverick (5225 posts) - - Show Bio


I dont think hank has a jerk inside him to be a wife beater..........................................

Jan is pretty annoying at times though, he may have lashed out..................................................

#8 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

Why has Pym been branded with that title? People seem to forget that Reed beat Susan once:


   

#9 Posted by JonesDeini (3616 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gambit1024 said:
" Why has Pym been branded with that title? People seem to forget that Reed beat Susan once:

   

"
Once?! Oh He laid the pimp hand down on multiple occasions. Though this panel is often taken out of context. He was slapping her to awaken sue's genuine anger so that she could take control of her body back from Malice. On a side note Hickman must be one of the greatest writers of all time, because he's actually manage to make me not only a fan of the FF but I actually like Reed these days. Truly strange times we live in lol

@FadeToBlackBolt said:
" Hank Pym is one of my favourite Marvel characters, and I think that moment of immense weakness, which he has worked his entire life to atone, really shows who he is as a person. The amount of times Reed has hit Sue and alike has been overlooked, but Hank always owned up to his action and he lives with it every day of his life.   Whether it was intended or not, it's an important part of his history, and it shouldn't be forgotten, though it shouldn't it be his defining moment either. "
I know we talked about this in that worst comic book husbands blog I made and I gotta agree Pym get's a bad rap. Most of his actions can be attributed to his mental health issues. And as a guy who's considered having himself committed on more than one occasion I can truly sympathize with that. What I respect most about his character is that he's tried to make amends and has never (to my knowledge) used his mental issues as a crutch the shirk personal responsibilities for his actions. Sadly that slap will remain as his defining moment long after we're gone. But I think that writers sticking to that moment is a positive thing in a way. It's served as a catalyst to build the character that you love. On an unrelated note, I really love the way he's handled in Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heros, great show. 
#10 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio
@JonesDeini: He's superbly written in that show. I was really hoping they'd write him well, and they have not disappointed me at all. It's awesome.
#11 Posted by MethodMan008 (74 posts) - - Show Bio

Ultimate Hank Pym is awesome.

#12 Posted by Caligula (12417 posts) - - Show Bio

Shoulda Kicked her in the mouth.

But also since when does a slap make you a "woman beater", if you are a woman and you think getting slapped is getting a beating... you have never received a beating.

#13 Posted by Billy Batson (56988 posts) - - Show Bio
@Caligula said:
" Shoulda Kicked her in the mouth.But also since when does a slap make you a "woman beater", if you are a woman and you think getting slapped is getting a beating... you have never received a beating. "

amen

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#14 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38849 posts) - - Show Bio
@Caligula said:
" Shoulda Kicked her in the mouth.But also since when does a slap make you a "woman beater", if you are a woman and you think getting slapped is getting a beating... you have never received a beating. "
lol
#15 Posted by Unwritten Duck (110 posts) - - Show Bio
@Caligula: In a strange sense I slightly agree, but a man, under any circumstances should never hit/beat a woman just because he's angry or doesn't agree with her or whatever. Still if a "female" attacks me, don't expect me to stand there and take it, but that's a different situation altogether. 
#16 Posted by The_Warlord (1777 posts) - - Show Bio
@xerox-kitty said:
" I didn't know that was the origin of this famous scene. 

But the important thing for his character is that he did do it & that writers have stuck with it (instead of taking the easy option of retconning it).  Even to this day he still reels from the ramifications of his actions in the past.  An accidental story turned in to more depth of character. "
Exactly
#17 Posted by Feliciano2040 (654 posts) - - Show Bio
@Billy Batson said:
@Caligula said:
" Shoulda Kicked her in the mouth.But also since when does a slap make you a "woman beater", if you are a woman and you think getting slapped is getting a beating... you have never received a beating. "

amen

Damn straight.

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