First of, YES they got rid of the lethal force cause, which didn't seem to be followed anyway at the expense of Jack T chance.

What i'm going to say is there a few things. Ranx can't be destoryed because they moved to bring it back it later days as it well destory Oa when Sodom Yat gets a mohawk.

Secondly and I'm sure you old Gl fans well love this nerdiness, I don't beleive Amon Sur is Abin's Son. If you would recall Tales of the Green Lantern Corps he found a little boy in the empire of tears and took him in, some years later he died.

In Amon's retelling of his life he is about four or five when his father dies, easyly a few years after finding this boy and taking him in as his own.

What do you all think?

i think the 2 main problems i have with the Sinestro wars are...

1. Lethal Force

2. OA's Death Row

Lethal force had never been a problem before, as Hal showed when he first became Parallax... while i like the idea of it being receded, i think it's taking the corps in a darker direction that doesn't really fit with what we know of The Guardians plan for the universe.

M

Yes but until the 90's such a cause didn't exsist you could kill in order to protect life just like real police.

yup... i can't remember if there was an actual issue where it was 'enforced' for the first time...

would be interesting to hunt down though

M

It's Jack T Chance first appearence; other then that they paid no mention to it in the comics. Though i'm not sure why Abin sur is after Hal, Hal isn't the one with his father's ring.

none of them have their 'original' rings anymore lol

M

True; but always remember that Hal body had his ring on it, which in reality is Tomar Tu's Ring.

Atom Smasher says:

"True; but always remember that Hal body had his ring on it, which in reality is Tomar Tu's Ring."

i'm trying to figure that out... who kept who's ring and which rings were destroyed in Emerald Twilight / Zero Hour

M

That is confusing because there was Ollie who somehow was able to keep a ring and it wasn't destoryed. There was Kyle ring which came from Hal's ring which would be Tomar Tu, because John got Hal's ring in issue 174 and long story short...it's like trying to pin the tail on the universe..you really can't win.

Ollie's ring was created from Hal's ring... so it didn't belong to anyone...

Kyle's ring was absorbed into him when he first became Ion, then he brought it back when he made the changes to it after reigniting the power battery on OA, then it disappeared again when he became Ion again, and Ganthet has now given him a new one lol

M

Along with the fact that now there are Two ions running around.

Atom Smasher says:

"Along with the fact that now there are Two ions running around."

no comment lol

M

yeah... i have a bad feeling Final Crisis is going to suck amazingly

M

The whole Final Crisis Thing to me just seems stupid and I'm not particulary hopeful.

Methos says:

"Atom Smasher says:

"Along with the fact that now there are Two ions running around."

no comment lol

M"

two ions?

Methos says:

"Nightwingprodigalson says:

"two ions?"

it's something Geoff John's said in one of his interviews...

it's led to a lot of debate about Kyle's future

M

"

but they said that Kyle's destiny is with the other lanterns

Nightwingprodigalson says:

"two ions?"

it's something Geoff John's said in one of his interviews...

it's led to a lot of debate about Kyle's future

M

Methos says:

"thats the problem... since he got his ring from Ganthet after he was 'expelled' from the Guardians, he's not an official member of the corps...M"

mm ok anyway methos did you see what I posted in your thread from the elseworld map?

thats the problem... since he got his ring from Ganthet after he was 'expelled' from the Guardians, he's not an official member of the corps...

M

no... i'll look at that thread in a bit...

we all know how the Sinestro War is going to end up...

With Ion kicking the crap out of Emo-Boy Prime

M

Methos says:

"no... i'll look at that thread in a bit...we all know how the Sinestro War is going to end up...With Ion kicking the crap out of Emo-Boy PrimeM"

mm who knows maybe he'll make a good fight and prime kills him (let me dream)

after all he isn't near as powerful as Kyke when he was ion

Methos says:

"no... i'll look at that thread in a bit... we all know how the Sinestro War is going to end up... With Ion kicking the crap out of Emo-Boy Prime M"

I can't wait for that battle

Methos says:

"Nightwingprodigalson says:

"mm who knows maybe he'll make a good fight and prime kills him (let me dream)after all he isn't near as powerful as Kyke when he was ion"

even a low power, Ion can easily fix Emo-Boy primes problem

M

"

hey let me dream to see Sodam death because of prime

Methos says:

"Nightwingprodigalson says:

"two ions?"

it's something Geoff John's said in one of his interviews... it's led to a lot of debate about Kyle's future M "

You have the video where he say that cause i like to see it.

Nightwingprodigalson says:

"mm who knows maybe he'll make a good fight and prime kills him (let me dream)after all he isn't near as powerful as Kyke when he was ion"

even a low power, Ion can easily fix Emo-Boy primes problem

M

The Ion says:

"You have the video where he say that cause i like to see it."

i've got the transcript somewhere... i'll see if i an hunt it down

M

Methos says:

"The Ion says:

"You have the video where he say that cause i like to see it."

i've got the transcript somewhere... i'll see if i an hunt it down M "

Thank you.

Sodam would be killed if he didn't have Ion by Prime

Nightwingprodigalson says:

"hey let me dream to see Sodam death because of prime"

lol, never happen...

even without Ion, Sodam would kick the crap out of Emoboy prime...

with Ion it's a curbstomp

M

Methos says:

"Nightwingprodigalson says:

"hey let me dream to see Sodam death because of prime"

lol, never happen... even without Ion, Sodam would kick the crap out of Emoboy prime... with Ion it's a curbstomp M "

Uhh i would have to say no to that. Any green lantern can beat supes but the big reason why is because they can use radiation. But superman prime is immune to kryptonite meditation that's not from his universe.

And question see how Sodam is like superman who gets powers because of the yellow sun. Does that mean when he fights superman prime he has that power?

The Ion says:

"Uhh i would have to say no to that. Any green lantern can beat supes but the big reason why is because they can use radiation. But superman prime is immune to kryptonite meditation that's not from his universe."

he ain't immune to Red Sun Radiation though...

any GL can simulate than and then kick the crap out of him that way lol

M

doubt it... even without Ion he's on Superman's level of power, and he has Daxamite military training behind him

M

Methos says:

"The Ion says:

"Uhh i would have to say no to that. Any green lantern can beat supes but the big reason why is because they can use radiation. But superman prime is immune to kryptonite meditation that's not from his universe."

he ain't immune to Red Sun Radiation though... any GL can simulate than and then kick the crap out of him that way lol M"

oh i forgot about red sun radiation.

Methos says:

"doubt it... even without Ion he's on Superman's level of power, and he has Daxamite military training behind himM"

but prime is way above superman's level

Methos says:

"The Ion says:

"Uhh i would have to say no to that. Any green lantern can beat supes but the big reason why is because they can use radiation. But superman prime is immune to kryptonite meditation that's not from his universe."

he ain't immune to Red Sun Radiation though...

any GL can simulate than and then kick the crap out of him that way lol

M"

he ain't inmune, however he beated red star without real problem

The Ion says:

"And question see how Sodam is like superman who gets powers because of the yellow sun. Does that mean when he fights superman prime he has that power?"

The Ion says:

"The Ion says:

"And question see how Sodam is like superman who gets powers because of the yellow sun. Does that mean when he fights superman prime he has that power?"

"

I don't think so

Hey nightwing you think that seeing how alan scoot never aged but only made it seem like he did because if the starheart powers. You think (seeing how jade inherited his powers) could do that too?

The Ion says:

"Hey nightwing you think that seeing how alan scoot never aged but only made it seem like he did because if the starheart powers. You think (seeing how jade inherited his powers) could do that too?"

mmm maybe but I guess we will never find out

Nightwingprodigalson says:

"The Ion says:

"Hey nightwing you think that seeing how alan scoot never aged but only made it seem like he did because if the starheart powers. You think (seeing how jade inherited his powers) could do that too?"

mmm maybe but I guess we will never find out"

yea lol

any way I think it is pretty obvious that ion vs superman prime is just a way to look sodam a lot cooler than he really is

Yea that probably is what they are trying to do. But i will give this guy a chance but i still like it better that kyle rayner is Ion. I also don't mind them making ion into a symbiote but I prefer it when ion wasn't a symbiote and just a name. I mean isn't that alot cooler to have that power yourself, instead of having a symbiote giving you that power?

The Ion says:

"Yea that probably is what they are trying to do. But i will give this guy a chance but i still like it better that kyle rayner is Ion. I also don't mind them making ion into a symbiote but I prefer it when ion wasn't a symbiote and just a name. I mean isn't that alot cooler to have that power yourself, instead of having a symbiote giving you that power?"

you are probably right but is it so hard to ask

Ion+ battle against Prime= Sodam killed

Nightwingprodigalson says:

"The Ion says:

"Yea that probably is what they are trying to do. But i will give this guy a chance but i still like it better that kyle rayner is Ion. I also don't mind them making ion into a symbiote but I prefer it when ion wasn't a symbiote and just a name. I mean isn't that alot cooler to have that power yourself, instead of having a symbiote giving you that power?"

you are probably right but is it so hard to ask Ion+ battle against Prime= Sodam killed"

No seeing how sodam has ion he won't lose (unless the writers make him lose).

mm I don't know the fact that he uses a ring makes him way weaker than Kyle

besides prime has killed some powerful things

I think it will depend of how weak ion becomes, because if it were Kyle (Ion) prime wouldn't had a chance

ok if sodam kills prime then he should at least kill gardner like he was going to do

yea that is true that sodam is a weaker ion. But remember kyle had the starheart which boosted his powers. But the whole ring thing is that i think he needs it to control his powers.

Nightwingprodigalson says:

"ok if sodam kills prime then he should at least kill gardner like he was going to do"

wait sodam was going to kill gardner?

no, it was prime