Hal Jordan missing from the Third Army story arc

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#1 Posted by HalJordan888 (38 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone else worried that Hal might die in the Revenge of the Black Hand arc?

#2 Posted by TheCrowbar (4286 posts) - - Show Bio

Worried or hopeful?

Hopeful.

#3 Posted by HalJordan888 (38 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCrowbar said:

Worried or hopeful?

Hopeful.

Apparently Hal Jordan haters exist everywhere.

#4 Posted by TheCrowbar (4286 posts) - - Show Bio

He's better as a tragedy than a character.

#5 Posted by SoA (5241 posts) - - Show Bio

i like hal as much as i like thor , in his own element he is okay, and he is overhyped. but i think sinestro gnna dump him on earth and fight this third army with the others and hal comes to save the day and sinestro takes off for his own thing .

#6 Posted by inblackestnight (3 posts) - - Show Bio

I dont think hal jordans gonna die. I mean geoff johns has spent the better part of the last decade giving him an amazing come back.

#7 Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee (12582 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, Geoff John's entire run on GL so far has been about reviving Hal Jordan as a character. I think that Hal will give up being a GL and relinquish the ring that SInestro made him because even IF Hal died it's not like his ring would be sent to someone else. I am interested how the new guy will get a ring though.

#8 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (13618 posts) - - Show Bio

I really hope he doesnt die. I wouldn't mind if he actually retired to be with Carol but please don't kill him.

#9 Posted by Cosmic_Hobo (60 posts) - - Show Bio

I quite like Hal, but I wouldn't really mind if they killed him to be honest. I'm so burnt out of comic books death that another won't make a difference. He'd be back in a couple of years anyway

#10 Posted by sethysquare (3842 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCrowbar said:

Worried or hopeful?

Hopeful.

>:(

#11 Posted by sethysquare (3842 posts) - - Show Bio

@Cosmic_Hobo said:

I quite like Hal, but I wouldn't really mind if they killed him to be honest. I'm so burnt out of comic books death that another won't make a difference. He'd be back in a couple of years anyway

This isn't marvel. Last time Barry Allen and Kara died, it stuck around for 20 years. Hal Jordan took another 20 years to recover from the whole emerald twilight saga.

#12 Posted by Cosmic_Hobo (60 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare: Okay, they took a little while, but all of them STILL came back.

As did Superman, Martian Manhunter, Firestorm, Aquaman etc, many of those in significantly under 20 years, and often in just 1 or 2

The use of character death is pretty much identical in both Marvel and DC

#13 Posted by TheCrowbar (4286 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare: Ok, but if I can type one thing.

Hal Jordan's death would be a good thing for the Green Lantern series. Guy Gardner's too.

#14 Posted by sethysquare (3842 posts) - - Show Bio

@Cosmic_Hobo: Not as bad in DC. Fear itself killed 2 person just to come back in 2 months. No wait, Thor died in Fear itself but still had his ongoing. Yes the same thing happened to Superman, but he was the only exception. Everyone else took quite a while.

@TheCrowbar: His death would signal the end of Green Lantern in other medias. They tried pushing John Steward but it didnt work. Also, Guy and Kyle's solo sold very poorly. So Hal's return is the best thing for the whole line. If Hal is dead, it'll probably go back down to one or two titles.

#15 Posted by TheCrowbar (4286 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare: Other than Jon Stewart in the cartoon, who was actually just as popular in that series as anyone else(Outside of Batman and Superman), there hasn't been any true push to put Stewart in the spotlight, not since Geoff Johns took over and decided to ruin other characters to make his favorite a good guy again.

#16 Posted by haydenclaireheroes (7551 posts) - - Show Bio

I am worried something is going to happen to Hal. It seems like he is missing in the up coming story arc and his own series. I hope he doesn't die. He is my favorite Green Lantern

#17 Posted by htb106 (1641 posts) - - Show Bio

@Cosmic_Hobo: They haven't brought the original Aqualad back yet.

#18 Edited by sethysquare (3842 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCrowbar: Jon Stewart has been around for years. YEARS. Its not anyone's fault he can't get popular. Jon is the most boring GL amongst all of the gls. Besides, Kyle Raynor held the green lantern book for like years before hal return. Green Lantern was failing. Even Green Lantern Corp was cancelled. Emerald Twilight signalled the end for Green Lantern. Thats one reason why Green Lantern was never a popular character for like 20 years. Why you ask? Because we let the second string Jon Stewart and Kyle Raynor ruin Green Lantern. Want Proof? Go check the sales for Green Lantern before Hal took over.

#19 Posted by TheCrowbar (4286 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare: You do know that Hal Jordan was originally replaced because his book was suffering already. Right? Kyle was brought in to revitalize sales.

For the last 10 years, he's been the "Can do no wrong" character, other characters always get sacrificed for his greatness regardless if it diminishes the writing and the characters around him. It's disgusting, one Batman is enough thank you.

#20 Posted by sethysquare (3842 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCrowbar: Not really. There were tons of great stories being told under Hal. Its just that they wanted to coincide more stuff with the death of Superman. After Hal is gone, there was even a fan group called HEAT being formed to request DC retcon out that storyline. After 20 years they did it. But ever since Emerald Twilight, the sales tanked very badly. Green Lantern turned from one of the promising franchise to the least popular one. Even when writers tried to put Kyle Raynor in Superman the animted series, they couldn't do it, they had to use Hal's storyline.

Also Hal only revived in 05/06, so its not really ten years. Ever since, the franchise flourish. From one book to 4 books now. Also, he hasn't really been "can do no wrong" character. He still makes lotsa mistakes. Everyone is still being like everyone. Guy is being the usual silly him. In fact he got more likeable when Hal was restored. He actually had several very endearing storyline and even a book to himself. Kyle Rayner was being the usual emo/snag him and Jon was just the same boring character. If DC never decided to use Jon in the Justice League, Green Lantern could've gotten much more popular. If they really want diversity they should have brought in Cyborg or Firestorm like in 80s animated series. Both Cyborg and Firestorm are much better and more relatable characters. The only thing going for Jon in JLU was his relationship with Hawkgirl. Other than that he was also really boring in JLU just like in comics.

#21 Posted by Cosmic_Hobo (60 posts) - - Show Bio

@htb106: Erm, okay? Both companies have some characters they've haven't brought back, my point was a big character like Hal wouldn't stay dead. Emerald Twilight was a pretty brave move, I was disappointed they didn' t stick with it. And I bet even Aqualad will be back eventually, although I hope not, if only because I truly hate that any character would have 'lad' in their name:P

@sethysquare: I don't think we can really count the fear itself deaths. Bucky was never dead, he merely faked it, and they announced that Thor was only going to be gone for a short time before hand. it was never claimed top be a permanent move (that I'm aware of).

That said, I'm not trying to claim that one company does it better than the other, I'm not entirely sure why so many threads become about that. I read both, and I hate that they both do it. Character death has been cheapened so much that it has become pointless, and it frustrates me immensely.

To get back to the original topic though, i suspect that Hal will either appear to die, or get captured, and then return triumphantly to save everyone else. Johns doesn't seem to like it when some one other than Hal saves the day:P

#22 Posted by sethysquare (3842 posts) - - Show Bio

@Cosmic_Hobo: If thats the case then Superman didnt really die, he just had a kryptonian coma, or whatever they call it. Back to Hal, I think its a ruse. Its merely Johns trying to mess around with us. Hal Jordan is too important to just die like that. Besides, losing both Hal and Sinestro couldn't be good for the franchise

#23 Posted by Cosmic_Hobo (60 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare: That's true, he was in a healing coma...thing. But it was marketed as a genuine permanent death, and that's what annoys me. Same thing with Captain America's 'death' a few years ago.

I totally agree with you about Hal and Sinestro though, they sell to many comics for DC to risk it

#24 Posted by sethysquare (3842 posts) - - Show Bio

@Cosmic_Hobo: yes, Sinestro and Hal are front and center in lots of merchandise. DC also said as from Blackest Night, deaths would meant death. So its unlikely Hal and Sinestro is gone

#25 Posted by HalJordan888 (38 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare said:

@Cosmic_Hobo: If thats the case then Superman didnt really die, he just had a kryptonian coma, or whatever they call it. Back to Hal, I think its a ruse. Its merely Johns trying to mess around with us. Hal Jordan is too important to just die like that. Besides, losing both Hal and Sinestro couldn't be good for the franchise

I really hope you're right the October solicits scared me again, even with all my evidence against Hal dying. Yeah it being a ruse to mess with fans does make sense for Geoff Johns to do.

#26 Posted by sethysquare (3842 posts) - - Show Bio

@HalJordan888: He also did that in GL #1 didn't he. He plastered Sinestro's face for 3 issues, everyone thought hal is gone, then suddenly when you read issue one, he took up like 50% or more of the book. LOL.

#27 Posted by HalJordan888 (38 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare said:

@HalJordan888: He also did that in GL #1 didn't he. He plastered Sinestro's face for 3 issues, everyone thought hal is gone, then suddenly when you read issue one, he took up like 50% or more of the book. LOL.

Lol yeah totally, but still this plays with my heart strings way too much. I hope Hal's fine or some good story points.

#28 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (13618 posts) - - Show Bio

Stop f$&):ng with my emotions Geoff!!!

#29 Posted by sethysquare (3842 posts) - - Show Bio

@HalJordan888: Besides, if Hal is dead, who is going to lead the GL book? this new arab GL? wonder how sales will look like afterwards lol.

#30 Posted by HalJordan888 (38 posts) - - Show Bio

@Avenging-X-Bolt said:

Stop f$&):ng with my emotions Geoff!!!

Yeah this exactly.

#31 Posted by HalJordan888 (38 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare said:

@HalJordan888: Besides, if Hal is dead, who is going to lead the GL book? this new arab GL? wonder how sales will look like afterwards lol.

Lol not good. Hal and Sinestro are the reason the book is selling.

#32 Posted by TDK_1997 (15060 posts) - - Show Bio

No.I don't think that he is going to die but he may stop being a GL.

#33 Posted by HalJordan888 (38 posts) - - Show Bio

@TDK_1997 said:

No.I don't think that he is going to die but he may stop being a GL.

We already got that, and because Carol being in GL:NG I don't think so, I mean besides the whole stranded without a ring thing possibly.

#34 Posted by Z3RO180 (6706 posts) - - Show Bio

im not big on him dieing instead just have him say hes done being a gl for a while then bring him back

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#35 Posted by sethysquare (3842 posts) - - Show Bio

@HalJordan888: exactly

@TDK_1997: he isnt a green lantern atm.

#36 Posted by TDK_1997 (15060 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare: I know.What I meant was that maybe Sinestro won't continue to charge the ring construct that Hal has held.

#37 Posted by sethysquare (3842 posts) - - Show Bio

@TDK_1997: Im sure the writers have more ideas on what to do with Hal. LOL.

#38 Posted by TDK_1997 (15060 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare: I believe in Geoff Johns that he will do something really cool with the return of Black Hand and what will happen with Hal and the new Green Lantern.

#39 Posted by sethysquare (3842 posts) - - Show Bio

@TDK_1997: likewise

#40 Posted by HalJordan888 (38 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare said:

@TDK_1997: likewise

Make that 3. Man, I love talking to people who trust in Geoff Johns and his stories in Green Lantern.

#41 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (13618 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe Sinestro is gonna die......

#42 Posted by sethysquare (3842 posts) - - Show Bio

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll be so mad if Sinestro dies.

#43 Posted by Lvenger (21143 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare: It's still too early for Hal to die. Unlike Marvel, DC left Hal dead for 10 years before bringing him back. Killing him again would be a tad counterproductive. As for Sinestro, there are still plenty of good stories to tell with him so hopefully he's not the one who dies. But they might replace Hal with that new ethnic Green Lantern. I'll stick with Johns for now as I'm sure he's got some good ideas up his sleeve for Green Lantern.

#44 Posted by sethysquare (3842 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger: Yeah I dont believe they would kill either one of the them. All our answers will be answered soon. We just need to be patient.

#45 Posted by Lvenger (21143 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare: But the story looks really good. I wanna read it now!!!! XD

#46 Posted by sethysquare (3842 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger: LOL. I just realised that Green Lantern won't be sold this week. Weird. The only issue coming out would be next week.

#47 Posted by HalJordan888 (38 posts) - - Show Bio

I wish we would get more answers about Hal and Sinestro's whereabouts! Though I asked Dan Didio on Facebook about Hal and Sinestro and he said there is plenty going on with them.

#48 Posted by MrMoe (1 posts) - - Show Bio

Killing him would only make him a martyre....let him retire

#49 Posted by sethysquare (3842 posts) - - Show Bio

let the worlds greatest green lantern retire.

#50 Posted by HalJordan888 (38 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone else miss Hal a lot?

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