Alright, I know many people are here thinking why didn't this noob use the search bar. Because me and my friend online, so excited for the Death Battle Goku vs Superman that we started debating ourselves. So, on our start of this debate we had to first find out who is stronger. Of course, as much as it hurts me as a DBZ fanboy to say, Superman is stronger. However, what matters is by how much. Going by Death Battle's calculations Supes has an average max. of 66 quintillion tons. The only times he has gone higher was with a sun dip.
Goku was able to catch an Island in the Frieza saga, because its a chunk of land we're just going to say it weighs 10 million tons. This was without Kaioken or Super Saiyan at all. Matter of fact Frieza was hardly trying either, when he chucked it at Goku with his telekinesis. So, with Super Saiyan which increases all of his abilities x50. That comes out to 500 million tons. Still far short of 66 quintillion. So, then say Goku goes Ascended Super Saiyan. Which has roughly 4x the power of a regular Super Saiyan. Then you go to Mastered Super Saiyan or Full-Power Super Saiyan. Who is probably double an Ascended Saiyan's power. Ascended Super Saiyan Vegeta couldn't come close to Perfect Cell's power. Then Full-Power Super Saiyan Goku comes in and is about equal to Perfect Cell in everyway. So, with Ascended Super Saiyan we are up to 2 billion tons. Then you factor in Full-Power Super Saiyan, and its 4 billion. Then comes SSJ2, which is probably 8x stronger. This is because when Gohan at only 11 yrs old, went SSJ2 he was able to beat 7 Cell Jrs. Each with the power of Perfect Cell, then going on to beat Perfect Cell horribly, humiliating him. While Goku even at Full-Power Super Saiyan couldn't even beat one! So know we are at 32 Billion tons. So you multiply that by 8x more for SSJ3. SSJ2 adult Gohan was killed in one punch by Majin Buu. Then when Goku went SSJ3 he was able to hold his own, and almost win. Only losing because his time in the Living World had ran out. So now we are at 256 billion tons, by the time of the battle of Kid Buu.
Now, do it all over again. Why, because by the End of Dragon Ball Z Goku has all of that power in his NORMAL form. I know because, before even at SSJ3 he struggled against a Kid Buu a stronger version of Majin Buu. His reincarnation Uub had all the same powers as Kid Buu, except for regeneration. Goku fought him in his base form not once using any type of boost. So now, his Super Saiyan form, since it increases his already tremendous power x50. Which comes out to 12 trillion, 800 billion tons. 12,800,000,000,0000 is still a bit less than 66 quintillion tons. Now we do Ascended Super Saiyan. 12,800,000,000,000 times 2. We get 25 600 000 000 000. Or 25 trillion 600 billion tons. But now we calculate SSJ2. Take 25 600 000 000 000 and multiply it by 8x. You will get 204 800 000 000 000 tons. That's 204 trillion, 800 billion tons. Then for SSJ3 again, multiply that by x8. We will have 1 638 400 000 000 000! That is 1 quadrillion ,638 trillion,400 billion tons! Now, for SSJ4 things will get tricky.
See in order for a Saiyan to become a Super Saiyan 4 they must become an Oozaru or Great Ape. In this form Goku had enough power to destroy a city as a kid. Most trained Saiyans could easily destroy planets with this form if they knew how to use it. The size of a Great Ape is very inconsistent, in some cases its the size of a mountain, other times its smaller than a building. Once it was even big enough to put holes in planets and their destruction could be seen from space. To become a Super Saiyan 4 a saiyan must first become a Great Ape. Then, they must become a SSJ3 while in Great Ape form. As Vegeta stated in the Saiyan Saga. The Great Ape transformation increases their power x10. So we must multiply 1 638 400 000 000 000x10 Which would come out to 16 384 000 000 000 000 tons. That's 16 quadrillion, 384 trillion tons! We are finally getting close to supes. When the SSJ3 Great Ape, becomes self conscious, it will become a SSJ4. Then, multiply x8 for the SSJ4. We know SSJ4 was stronger than SSJ3 because while fighting Bebii, SSJ3 Goku was barely able to keep up, and was getting beaten. Also, keep in mind Bebii was using power from SSJ2 Vegeta, Ultimate Gohan, SSJ Goten, and SSJ Trunks. The moment Goku went SSJ4, the table turned. None of Bebii's attacks even phased Goku. Goku could take as long as he wanted and he knew he would win. You will get this number 131 072 000 000 000 000. Which is 131 quadrillion, 72 trillion tons! But, Goku still has two final options to boost even further. When SSJ Goku and SSJ Vegeta and SSJ Future Trunks were fighting Super Android 13. Super Android 13 was able to fight them all. Easily taking them down. Goku created a spirit bomb and absorbed it. He was able to beat Super Android 13 with only one punch after doing so. This means SSJ Goku (who's powerlevel was 150,000,000) Somehow got his powerlevel to get over triple that. So, I'm just going to assume it was x5. Which is 655 360 000 000 000 000 tons or 655 quadrillion, 360 trillion tons! That would be Goku's first option. However, in Screw Attack's Death Battle. That probably won't happen for one simple reason. They ruled out outside help. The spirit is basically nothing but outside help, since Goku does not create it from his own power. But Goku has another option. The Kaioken, while the Kaioken does take a huge tole on Goku's body if used for extended periods of time, after Goku trained using it, he can maintain it for quite a while being able to use the technique up to 20x. Boosting all his abilities x20 temporarily. If he were to do this as a SSJ4 using the Kaioken, you would get 2 621 440 000 000 000 000. Or 2 quintillion, 621 quadrillion, 440 trillion tons! But, there is another thing with the Kaioken, the Super Kaioken. Although it has only been used once. I think it is safe to assume it is around the double Kaioken's power. Pikkon was above a SSJ2. Somewhere between SSJ2 Gohan and Majin Vegeta. Pikkon was able to defeat Super Perfect Cell with only one attack. While SSJ2 Gohan almost lost.With the Super Kaioken, Goku completely outmatched Pikkon for about a good 5 seconds. So if Super Kaioken is 40x then we'll do that instead of the regular Kaioken. Which would give us 5 242 880 000 000 000 000 or Five quintillion, 242 quadrillion, 880 trillion tons! That is over 10 septillion pounds!
Now the reason why this is important even though he is still weaker than Superman. Goku has roughly one 13 of Superman's maximum strength without his sun dip. Even though Supes is x13 stronger than Goku what you have to keep in mind is that Goku has taken hits from people 20x stronger than him. Like when he was fighting Frieza. Frieza revealed he was using only 1% of his actual strength, Goku giving it his all. The moment Frieza decided to use 50%. Goku was defenseless. Goku's PL was only 3 million at that time. Frieza's was 60 million. Frieza tossed Goku around like a ragdoll after that, surprised that he was still alive. Goku's durability was far greater than his strength. He could take everything Frieza threw at him despite Frieza being x20 stronger. Now, when Goku got angry he used the Kaioken x20 for the very first time. What I am trying to say is. Goku may be weaker. But it is close enough, closer than the gap between him and Frieza was. Also, this is just Strength, raw lifting and physical potential. As done by Trunks he could always put all his ki in his Muscles to convert all of his energy, into physical power. But that is for another time.
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