Gladiator Underated

#1 Posted by Gladiator (8 posts) - - Show Bio

As a huge fan of the character Gladiator I always feel that he is not written well. If you read his profile you would think he was one of the most powerful characters in the marvel universe. I have read just about every story Gladiator has been involved in and it seems that he is usually used to make another character look good. As a fan of Gladiator it always bothers me how he is written. Gladiator has the same abilities as Superman but he has also been trained in the arts of war unlike superman. It seems that alot of Gladiators powers never come into play when being written. For example when fighting another foe he never uses his super speed, if he used his super speed combained with his strength I would think he would have np taking on someone such as The Hulk. Anyways I was just wondering if anyone else noticed this trend when it comes to Gladiator.

#2 Posted by Donnieman v5.1 (44323 posts) - - Show Bio

I noticed it too. Gladiator is one of my favorite heroes and I like how his base powers are increased by his level of confidence.

#3 Posted by Buckshot (18915 posts) - - Show Bio

That happens to a lot of characters, but it's makes the story better in most cases. It's no fun if Gladiator just swoops in and destroys every threat. Superman can do it more because he's the star, the main character. Gladiator isn't as popular and is often a supporting character so he doesn't get to shine as much. As long as he's just a supporting character he's probably not going to get the level of exposure that you want to see because it just wouldn't work.

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#4 Posted by zee crusher (8997 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah gladiator is underated he one of my favs as well like gladiator has destoryed whole planets with just his fist flown threw hearts of stars hes taken on thro in the moon beat hyerion way under rated and yes he should have beaten hulk but remember gladiator had been exspoded to some radition before the fight so he was extremly weak then.

#5 Posted by The_MVPs (84694 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree, I mean I like Gambit and all but there's no way he should be able to pull this off (but I still think its cool)

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#6 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"I agree, I mean I like Gambit and all but there's no way he should be able to pull this off (but I still think its cool) "
LMAO, trying to rub it in?
#7 Posted by zee crusher (8997 posts) - - Show Bio

Actully he can lol think abot it gambit kinetic energy basically ambit using that as a super punch so its possibly beside gladiator onyl weighs like 400 to 600 pounds.

#8 Posted by The_MVPs (84694 posts) - - Show Bio

I mean he's quick enough to were he should have been able to dodge Gambits attack.

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#9 Posted by Gladiator (8 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeh I suppose that is why he is written the way he is. It just gets annoying when you know he shouldnt be beaten, atleast not as poorly as he always is. Kinda like watching Darth Mul die, it just makes you cringe.

#10 Posted by zee crusher (8997 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah i agree hes is quick he shold have been able to see that out of of the list that people put down peopel for being superman copy cats gdiators the strongest i know somebodys probably gonna say sentry lol.

#11 Posted by Alladin Sane (55 posts) - - Show Bio

I think they should keep the characters consistent despite what certain people involved in creating the comics the characters are in think. If Gladiators involved in a storyline he should either be successful or be defeated by someone powerful enough to beat him (like phoenix, cable, or x-man).

#12 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator's power levels have varied to a large degree over his career, ranging from something like the picture seen previously, to alledgidly being able to pulverise planets.

Commonly however, he seems to be on a par with Thor - for overall power level.

But I agree, he is used as a yardstick in some comics - instead of a central pivotal character.

#13 Posted by Buckshot (18915 posts) - - Show Bio

I like him as more of a background character, a Superman type who's not the star of the show, just a good soldier.

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#14 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio

Buckshot says:

"I like him as more of a background character, a Superman type who's *not* the star of the show, just a good soldier. "

There is that point but it would be nice to have a couple of issues of a title focus on him and develop him a little more instead of the sporadic appearances/development we have.

#15 Posted by Gladiator (8 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeh my basic point wasnt that I want Gladiator to be a main hero all the time but I tire of him being used as a tool. When the invisible women got the uni power she was able to punch Gladiator so hard he was sent into another building. When the uni power joined with Gladiator he was knocked out by a force field. It is the way Gladiator is written that bugs me.

I would like to see a small series starring Gladiator. They had done a Imperial Guard short series but it was pretty bad.

#16 Posted by Forever (4332 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator says:

"Yeh my basic point wasnt that I want Gladiator to be a main hero all the time but I tire of him being used as a tool. When the invisible women got the uni power she was able to punch Gladiator so hard he was sent into another building. When the uni power joined with Gladiator he was knocked out by a force field. It is the way Gladiator is written that bugs me. I would like to see a small series starring Gladiator. They had done a Imperial Guard short series but it was pretty bad. "

Like Buckshot said, he should be a background character but like you said, he shouldn't just be there to get knocked around. It's harder to write a character who should be able to defeat almost anyone he goes up against. You either have to hold him back and only use him in stories where the other side has someone on his level or you have to have him be a very cautious character who lets the other side have their say or get their attacks in, while he tries to understand what they're trying to do.

If he comes in like a weapon, then you cant use him at his full power or he wipes out the X-Men or whoever else he is facing. But if he comes in like an adult playing with toddlers, and trys to figure out what they are up to before instantly punishing them, then you could get some good use out of him without turning him into a tool.

#17 Posted by Gladiator (8 posts) - - Show Bio

Some very good points made here. Im glad to see that im not the only one that has noticed this trend. I remember there was a story where Gladiator and Wolverine fought, i think it lasted 7 days or something ending with Gladiator breaking one of wolverines claws. Till this day i cant figure out how wolverine lasted 7 days against Gladiator. The writers just need to come up with more creative ways to write Gladiator if they are going to use him in stories.

#18 Posted by Alladin Sane (55 posts) - - Show Bio

Weellll, Wolverine once had all of his skin and internal organs burned away and yet still regenerated, so I can imagine him lasting that long, as long as most of that "survival" was spent recovering from gladiators blows, which I'm sure it wasn't.

#19 Posted by Buckshot (18915 posts) - - Show Bio

Poo poo.

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#20 Posted by zero edge (3696 posts) - - Show Bio

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#21 Posted by Leah (28 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator is very much a "yardstick" character. Like when Jet-Ass, I mean Cannonball beat Gladiator in Uncanny X-Men, that was done so Jet-Ass would seem like a more formidable character. Also, I can't stop calling Cannonball Jet-Ass. Gladiator is obviously Claremont's Superman knockoff with a mohawk and an attitude problem, but he should be used better. Really, he's a great character.

#22 Posted by MAD is the man (4 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator says:

"Some very good points made here. Im glad to see that im not the only one that has noticed this trend. I remember there was a story where Gladiator and Wolverine fought, i think it lasted 7 days or something ending with Gladiator breaking one of wolverines claws. Till this day i cant figure out how wolverine lasted 7 days against Gladiator. The writers just need to come up with more creative ways to write Gladiator if they are going to use him in stories."
I know this is an old subject, and I agree with most of what was written but you might be underrating wolverine. For one point and we don't know for a fact but wolverine is probably much olderthan Gladiator and has been fighting before he was born. He has been in fights with others lasting dayssuch as Omega red. Gladiator could knock him across a few states so he would need to keep wanting to fighting, but Wolverine could take it and keep going. In my very one sided opinion Wolverinecould best super man him self...maybe not but he could fight him for 7 days and brake a claw.
#23 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

MAD is the man says:

"Gladiator says:
"Some very good points made here. Im glad to see that im not the only one that has noticed this trend. I remember there was a story where Gladiator and Wolverine fought, i think it lasted 7 days or something ending with Gladiator breaking one of wolverines claws. Till this day i cant figure out how wolverine lasted 7 days against Gladiator. The writers just need to come up with more creative ways to write Gladiator if they are going to use him in stories. "
I know this is an old subject, and I agree with most of what was written but you might be underrating wolverine. For one point and we don't know for a fact but wolverine is probably much older than Gladiator and has been fighting before he was born. He has been in fights with others lasting days such as Omega red. Gladiator could knock him across a few states so he would need to keep wanting to fighting, but Wolverine could take it and keep going. In my very one sided opinion Wolverine could best super man him self...maybe not but he could fight him for 7 days and brake a claw. "

are you crazy? that's why people say wolverine is overrated. wolverine shouldnt be able to do anything against gladiator and certainly not superman! i'm not trying to attack you, cause i dont know you ;), but you should be able to look at their powers and know that wolverine should have no chance against either of them.

#24 Posted by weaponx (1566 posts) - - Show Bio

wolverine may not be able to much to either superman or gladiator but they can't do much to him except drop him off in a different solar system so they don't have to fight him for awhile. wolverine will keep comming back. as for breaking of the claw, i don't like that and don't see how that happened. wolverine could totally take superman if he did his research. kryptonite is no secret and all he has to do is have some of that with him and superman is done.

#25 Posted by Vance Astro (91261 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator is overrated if you ask me.

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#26 Posted by Vance Astro (91261 posts) - - Show Bio

weaponx says:

"wolverine may not be able to much to either superman or gladiator but they can't do much to him except drop him off in a different solar system so they don't have to fight him for awhile. wolverine will keep comming back. as for breaking of the claw, i don't like that and don't see how that happened. wolverine could totally take superman if he did his research. kryptonite is no secret and all he has to do is have some of that with him and superman is done."

YOUR FANBOYISM IS SHOWING

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#27 Posted by Alladin Sane (55 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"I agree, I mean I like Gambit and all but there's no way he should be able to pull this off (but I still think its cool)"

I just read this comic and the "gladiator" that gambit is fighting is a skrull, who imitates gladiator's appearance and powers (through use of some fancy skrull technology). SO perhaps he is weaker than the real gladiator

#28 Posted by Vance Astro (91261 posts) - - Show Bio

Logic Mark III says:

"Gladiator needs a little 4 part series showing him to be the henchmo that he is. Wanna see him move planets, kill Armadas, blow out stars and generally ruin everybody. I had hoped he would be in the first Annihilation and given a boost like all the characters involved in that [loved Annihilation gave Ronan and Super Skrull the respect they deserved]. Does anyone have a more recent Official Handbook entry for Gladiator. I have an old one but it is really lacking in any kind of good detail and still supposes a lot about him."

The handbooks newest handbook are in alphabetical order,but they don't tell you what characters they are going to cover in it...so I might have the one with him in it,but I wouldn't know.To lazy to skim through.

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#29 Posted by Vance Astro (91261 posts) - - Show Bio

Logic Mark III says:

"No i think it was the real Gladiator in that pick he was mind controlled by a Skrull Xavier. That Gladiator was weird as anything, Warbird [a 6 tonner ?] managed to hurt him in close combat, and claimed she was as strong as him."

Warbird was as strong as him.

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#30 Posted by Logic Mark III (2121 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator needs a little 4 part series showing him to be the henchmo that he is. Wanna see him move planets, kill Armadas, blow out stars and generally ruin everybody. I had hoped he would be in the first Annihilation and given a boost like all the characters involved in that [loved Annihilation gave Ronan and Super Skrull the respect they deserved].

Does anyone have a more recent Official Handbook entry for Gladiator. I have an old one but it is really lacking in any kind of good detail and still supposes a lot about him.

#31 Posted by Logic Mark III (2121 posts) - - Show Bio

No i think it was the real Gladiator in that pick he was mind controlled by a Skrull Xavier. That Gladiator was weird as anything, Warbird [a 6 tonner ?] managed to hurt him in close combat, and claimed she was as strong as him.

#32 Posted by Vance Astro (91261 posts) - - Show Bio

Logic Mark III says:

"Lilandras sister is it Deathbird or warbird...which is it?."
Deathbird...Warbird beat her too.Warbird is Carol Danvers.
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#33 Posted by Logic Mark III (2121 posts) - - Show Bio

Lilandras sister is it Deathbird or warbird...which is it?.

#34 Posted by HellionVulcan (3803 posts) - - Show Bio
Logic Mark III said:
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Gladiator needs a little 4 part series showing him to be the henchmo that he is. Wanna see him move planets, kill Armadas, blow out stars and generally ruin everybody. I had hoped he would be in the first Annihilation and given a boost like all the characters involved in that [loved Annihilation gave Ronan and Super Skrull the respect they deserved].

Does anyone have a more recent Official Handbook entry for Gladiator. I have an old one but it is really lacking in any kind of good detail and still supposes a lot about him.

"
Yes i agree Gladiator's past needs to be shown but i don't think marvel has faith in his overall character for it to be done .. .
#35 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio

Logic Mark III says

Does anyone have a more recent Official Handbook entry for Gladiator. I have an old one but it is really lacking in any kind of good detail and still supposes a lot about him.
No, not to my knowledge.
#36 Posted by scuzz2.0 (273 posts) - - Show Bio

sum 1 said that the reason that wolverine could last 7 days is because he is older than glads and has been fighting since before he was born but i am pretty sure glads is at least a few thousand years old!

#37 Posted by Vance Astro (91261 posts) - - Show Bio
Logic Mark III said:
Lilandras sister is it Deathbird or warbird...which is it?.
Can you not read? Warbird is Ms.Marvel\Carol Danvers.Deathbird is Lilandra's sister.
Now back on topic...Gladiator is not underated..he's overrated.People think he can do a bunch of sh#t he can't do and make arguments for him against people..he could never beat.
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#38 Posted by The_MVPs (84694 posts) - - Show Bio

Untouchable my ass
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#39 Posted by Vance Astro (91261 posts) - - Show Bio
Gambler said:
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Untouchable my ass
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LOL
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