Is Gambit Related to Mr.Sinister???

#1 Edited by HopesummersFORtheFUTURE (3202 posts) - - Show Bio

In x-men:the end he was a perfect clone of sinister and Remy was adopted so he doesnt know who his real parents are???

#2 Posted by LoganRogue24 (1187 posts) - - Show Bio

i thought he was a clone of sinister i read that sinister had the hots for Rogue and created Gambit to be with her or something.

#3 Posted by stumpy49er (609 posts) - - Show Bio

God, I hope not. I prefer more realistic origins. Hate clone origins. I guess if Mr. Sinister were his real father I'd be somewhat okay with that, but then it just feels like Darth Vader and Luke.

#4 Posted by Munsu (164 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't remember anything about him being a clone having anything to do with Rogue, but yeah, in X-Men the End he was a clone of Sinister and Cyclops. Don't think that is going to be cannon in 616 though. I wouldn't mind him being Sinister's son, but it would be nice for him to have a definitive origin at least.

#5 Posted by fodigg (6146 posts) - - Show Bio

This would be the first I'd heard of a connection to Sinister.

#6 Posted by HopesummersFORtheFUTURE (3202 posts) - - Show Bio

@fodigg: thier eyes look alike sometimes

#7 Posted by Munsu (164 posts) - - Show Bio

Also I think CC's original plan for both Gambit and Sinister (which never happened btw) was that both were indented to be projections of a "hero" and a "villain" by this powerful mutant that never aged that was in the same orphanage Cyclops went to.

#8 Posted by lykopis (10746 posts) - - Show Bio

It would fall really flat if Gambit was shown to be a clone of Sinister.

If some clever writer was able to incorporate Sinister's origins with creating a clone of his dead son through Gambit, that might be interesting.

#9 Posted by fodigg (6146 posts) - - Show Bio

@HopesummersFORtheFUTURE said:

@fodigg: thier eyes look alike sometimes

Well, a lot of characters are visually similar without being related.

#10 Posted by cattlebattle (12774 posts) - - Show Bio
@Munsu said:

Also I think CC's original plan for both Gambit and Sinister (which never happened btw) was that both were indented to be projections of a "hero" and a "villain" by this powerful mutant that never aged that was in the same orphanage Cyclops went to.

Claremonts original plan for Gambit was that he betrays the X-Men, there is a ton of evidence that supports it but it was all retconned due to Gambit becoming a fan favorite. I have never heard of what you suggested
#11 Posted by Munsu (164 posts) - - Show Bio

@cattlebattle said:

@Munsu said:

Also I think CC's original plan for both Gambit and Sinister (which never happened btw) was that both were indented to be projections of a "hero" and a "villain" by this powerful mutant that never aged that was in the same orphanage Cyclops went to.

Claremonts original plan for Gambit was that he betrays the X-Men, there is a ton of evidence that supports it but it was all retconned due to Gambit becoming a fan favorite. I have never heard of what you suggested

What you said is also correct. It is just part of the abandoned plot. Here is a list of more. http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?80800-Claremont-s-Abandoned-Plots

The part where Gambit and Sinister are mentioned to be projections/byproducts of this kid mutant starts on post 12.

#12 Posted by cattlebattle (12774 posts) - - Show Bio
@Munsu said:


What you said is also correct. It is just part of the abandoned plot. Here is a list of more. http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?80800-Claremont-s-Abandoned-Plots

The part where Gambit and Sinister are mentioned to be projections/byproducts of this kid mutant starts on post 12.

Aaah...the greatness that was Claremont, I can't say all the ideas are great...but most of them are good. The X-Men these days would  likely be heavily altered, which is better than the crap they are up to these days. The thing I like is that Claremont didn't care who was a fan favorite or not.......he would just do whatever he saw fit to a character.
#13 Posted by stumpy49er (609 posts) - - Show Bio

@Munsu: I had heard that was Mr. Sinisters intended origin. Never knew it was supposed to be Gambit as well. I always liked the idea for Sinister, I don't think I like it for Gambit though.

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