Can Gambit charge Wolverine's claws or Captain America's shield?

#1 Posted by The Lemon Warrior (8 posts) - - Show Bio

Since they're made of adamantium and vibranium respectively, can Gambit still charge them?

#2 Posted by Precise (22883 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm pretty sure that in the ultimate universe I saw Gambit threatening Wolverine to blow up his claws. So he should be able to charge it, but I doubt he'd be able to destroy it though.

#3 Posted by nightwing91 (3912 posts) - - Show Bio

He should be able to charge it, but it wouldn't be destroyed.

#4 Posted by SC (11991 posts) - - Show Bio

Only if he asks really nicely, and uses copious amounts of IcyHot or Deep Heat.

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#5 Posted by xerox_kitty (15760 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't see why he wouldn't physically be able to... But I also can't see him actually doing it.  Writers wouldn't go that far.

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#6 Posted by notageek (86 posts) - - Show Bio

i think he can charge the shield and the claws but how will he touch the claws without bleeding?

#7 Posted by Aiden Cross (15513 posts) - - Show Bio
@Precise said:
" I'm pretty sure that in the ultimate universe I saw Gambit threatening Wolverine to blow up his claws. So he should be able to charge it, but I doubt he'd be able to destroy it though. "
This is what i meant
 

#8 Posted by Emperor Gonzo Noir (19713 posts) - - Show Bio

I suppose it's theoretically possible.

#9 Posted by Donnieman v5.1 (44323 posts) - - Show Bio
@Aiden Cross: What I'd like to know is how he grabbed Logan's claw without cutting his hand :P
#10 Posted by Aiden Cross (15513 posts) - - Show Bio
@Donnieman v5.1:  Comic book logic.
#11 Edited by Donnieman v5.1 (44323 posts) - - Show Bio
@Aiden Cross: So you can throw 'comic book logic' at me but I can't throw 'comic book physics' at you? Double standards I tell you :P
#12 Posted by notageek (86 posts) - - Show Bio

o and doesnt vibranium absorb energy? so captain america's shield will just cause an explosion if it is charged too much but it wont explode itself as it is so strong that if thor hits it with mjoinir at full power it will only dent it

#13 Posted by SC (11991 posts) - - Show Bio
@Donnieman v5.1 said:
" @Aiden Cross: What I'd like to know is how he grabbed Logan's claw without cutting his hand :P "
 
In the Ultimate Universe, Wolverines claws are round, not serrated on the side. only tips are sharp. So like a strippers pole. 
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#14 Edited by Donnieman v5.1 (44323 posts) - - Show Bio
@SC said:

" @Donnieman v5.1 said:

" @Aiden Cross: What I'd like to know is how he grabbed Logan's claw without cutting his hand :P "
 In the Ultimate Universe, Wolverines claws are round, not serrated on the side. only tips are sharp. So like a strippers pole.  "
Ahhh, thank you so much :) 
 
EDIT: And nice joke there ;-)
#15 Posted by SC (11991 posts) - - Show Bio
@notageek said:
" o and doesnt vibranium absorb energy? so captain america's shield will just cause an explosion if it is charged too much but it wont explode itself as it is so strong that if thor hits it with mjoinir at full power it will only dent it "
 
Yes, this. Vibranium absorbs energy, it might have a limit and breaking point, but its more likely that Gambit would exhaust himself in the attempt. If this was like a New Son type Gambit, he might have the juice to do something more destructive. 
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#16 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio

What about Ultimate Gambit vs Hammerhead in Ultimate X-Men 13/14?

#17 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambit would definitely be able to charge Wolverine's claws, but it wouldn't work on Cap's shield because the Vibranium would absorb the energy. I suppose if Gambit really concentrated and put in a lot of effort, he could possibly do it. Honestly though, in a fight, Cap and Wolverine would never just sit there and let it happen. 

#18 Posted by DEGRAAF (7812 posts) - - Show Bio

i would like to see him blow up Wolverine or use Captain America's shield as a charged projectile
#19 Posted by God_Spawn (36011 posts) - - Show Bio

He did charge sebastian shaw before but thats shaw; power is to absorb that energy and convert it to raw power. I think that same case could be made for caps shield as it wiuld just keep absorbing as gambit would probably tire out. And with wolverine;s adamantium i beleive the adamantium molecules are too closely packed together to charge or explode as there wouldnt be a room to explode, or that there would be an explosion but nothing would be damaged.

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#20 Posted by TypingKira (3509 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought Cap's shield was adamantium too? 

#21 Posted by Ragin_Cajun (9 posts) - - Show Bio
@god_spawn: @god_spawn said:
" He did charge sebastian shaw before but thats shaw; power is to absorb that energy and convert it to raw power. I think that same case could be made for caps shield as it wiuld just keep absorbing as gambit would probably tire out. And with wolverine;s adamantium i beleive the adamantium molecules are too closely packed together to charge or explode as there wouldnt be a room to explode, or that there would be an explosion but nothing would be damaged. "
Gambit, I don't think would tire out that easily, because in one of the comics when the Sh'iar invaded Earth they captured Gambit and used him as a conduit to open the portal, and during that time his power was literally leaking out to creating this like enormous friggin pillar.  Really kind of badass lol. But he was like that i think for like a week or two or something. But his power never once shut off, and so I don't think he'd tire out from trying to charge the shield, imho. ;)   
 
In my favoritism also I fully believe he could explode Wolvie if he truly wanted to.   

Though this could just be favoritism. lol
#22 Posted by CurbsideProphet (1906 posts) - - Show Bio
@Aiden Cross said:
" @Precise said:
" I'm pretty sure that in the ultimate universe I saw Gambit threatening Wolverine to blow up his claws. So he should be able to charge it, but I doubt he'd be able to destroy it though. "
This is what i meant
 

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What happened afterwards
#23 Edited by Ragin_Cajun (9 posts) - - Show Bio
@CurbsideProphet said:

" @Aiden Cross said:

" @Precise said:
" I'm pretty sure that in the ultimate universe I saw Gambit threatening Wolverine to blow up his claws. So he should be able to charge it, but I doubt he'd be able to destroy it though. "
This is what i meant
 

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What happened afterwards "
Gambit take his broken bo staff(you can see it being charged(turning reddish-purple) on the right in the last frame from the previous blue on the frame left of that), jams it into  Logan's mouth and detonates it. lol, then he turns and jumps after Rogue. Pretty good comic actually.
#24 Posted by CurbsideProphet (1906 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ragin_Cajun:
And what issue(s) was/were this?
#25 Posted by Jokerman7 (10 posts) - - Show Bio

@TypingKira: Adamantium and Vibranium.

#26 Posted by MutieLover (99 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jokerman7:

In the mainstream comics , Caps shield is a vibranium/iron alloy. Adamantium is the result of trying to recreate the shield.

#27 Posted by Owen_Porter (83295 posts) - - Show Bio
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#28 Posted by God_Spawn (36011 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambler: That's pretty similar to what I wrote a year ago but more towards the section of adamantium that there would be an explosion but nothing would be destroyed. I guess the same could now be applied to Cap's shield.

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#29 Posted by JoeEddie (482 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambler:

How does this make sense if Gambit is charging the molecules that make up the shield?

#30 Posted by Owen_Porter (83295 posts) - - Show Bio

@JoeEddie said:

@Gambler:

How does this make sense if Gambit is charging the molecules that make up the shield?

I dont follow....

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#31 Posted by JoeEddie (482 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambler:

How would the properties of the shield stop if from exploding when the molecules that make up the shield are being charged?

#32 Posted by God_Spawn (36011 posts) - - Show Bio

@JoeEddie: Cause the shield absorbs kinetic energy and probably too sturdy for it to break ala Gambit charge,

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#33 Posted by Owen_Porter (83295 posts) - - Show Bio

@JoeEddie: Cause if I remember correctly (and bare with me this is comicbook logic) its not simply the charge that causes Gambit's objects to explode, but rather the de-stabilization of the charged molecules. I assume this is also how Gambit (in Age of X) was able to charge bullets and fire them without the initial connect of the firing pin hitting the shell casing causing an explosion.

So in theory he could charge the shield but as it explains in the text the unique alloy kept the molecular structure stabilized.

Having said all that, this is after all the same fight in which Gambit couldnt charge organic matter and had to settle for trying to charge Cap's costume. Its all suspect in my opinion.

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#34 Posted by Owen_Porter (83295 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

@JoeEddie: Cause the shield absorbs kinetic energy and probably too sturdy for it to break ala Gambit charge,

Or this works even better lol

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#35 Edited by Teerack (4554 posts) - - Show Bio

Wouldn't work on Cap's shield, because of the way it's mixed with vibranium so it would just send out a big pulse of energy. Gambit's powers work kinetically so vibrianium should offer it immunity. Like in AvX he charged it and it blew up, but the explosion came out of the shield and wasn't broken at all.

#36 Edited by Hanklerfishy (3 posts) - - Show Bio

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