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    Freddie Freeman is foster brother of Billy Batson and one of the holders of the power of SHAZAM.

    Is Captain Marvel more powerful the Superman

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    #1  Edited By goldenkey

    I've recently gotten a little interest in Captain Marvel recently because of Flashpoint.  I'm now reading the Trials of Shazam where Freddy takes over as champion, but I've looke the character up on here, wiki, etc, and everything I'm finding seems to conclude that Captain Marvel would give Superman an ass-whoopin.  The magic factor alone should be enough for Superman to get his head bashed in, but so far it's said he's faster then Superman, his strength is unknown but he can hang with Superman, and just saying Shazam can heal him from any injury in the time it takes to be struck by lightening.  Then you have the wisdom issue.  What can any of you tell me that make this true or not true.  Can Captain Marvel or Freddy Freeman as Shazam defeat Superman???
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    #2  Edited By Kallarkz

    Search Superman Vs Captain Marvel using the toolbar above and you will find some very interesting battles involving the two with their powers being analyzed.  
    In my personal opinion in a 10 round match I'd say both would come out 5/10.

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    #3  Edited By Billy Batson

    Depends on the versions. 

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    #4  Edited By mark5

    I think he could.

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    #5  Edited By MutenRoshi

    No, he's slower, Superman has better speed feats than Captain Marvel
    He's physically weaker,  Superman comes off better in lifting power and durability than Billy   
    Superman also has long range attacks, Superman has super breath, heat vision etc Cap marvel can only really call lightning attacks down on the spot where he stands
     
    However Marvel does do much better in fights against magic beings and Superman does have a vulnerability to magical attacks, if Billy were to use his intelligence he could come up with ways of beating Superman

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    #6  Edited By Pizawle

    Depends on who the writer is.

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    #7  Edited By PikminMania
    @goldenkey: Captain Marvel can beat Superman, but that is only because of magic. Superman is stronger against everyone else.
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    #8  Edited By LONGTIME
    @PikminMania: No he isn't.
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    #9  Edited By PikminMania
    @LONGTIME: I think he could
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    #10  Edited By KidSupreme

    @Pizawle said:

    Depends on who the writer is.

    And their people is the real answer!

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    #11  Edited By Primmaster64

    I always thought Billy could beat Supes. Both they are both awesome.

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    #12  Edited By ReVamp

    @Primmaster64 said:

    I always thought Billy could beat Supes. Both they are both awesome.

    But Magic. Magic.

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    #13  Edited By Primmaster64
    @ReVamp said:

    @Primmaster64 said:

    I always thought Billy could beat Supes. Both they are both awesome.

    But Magic. Magic.

    ....Aha?
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    #14  Edited By ReVamp

    @Primmaster64 said:

    @ReVamp said:

    @Primmaster64 said:

    I always thought Billy could beat Supes. Both they are both awesome.

    But Magic. Magic.

    ....Aha?

    He can win, but its because he's exploiting a vulnerability. It doesn't mean that he's more powerful in terms of raw power.

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    #15  Edited By Primmaster64
    @ReVamp: Strength of Hercules.
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    #16  Edited By Jonny_Anonymous

    Billy maybe, Freddy, no!

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    #17  Edited By Gambit1024

    @Primmaster64 said:

    @ReVamp: Strength of Hercules.

    Hercules isn't a Kryptonian ;)

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    #18  Edited By Primmaster64
    @Gambit1024: But he's supposed to be a god right? XD
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    #19  Edited By ReVamp

    @Primmaster64 said:

    @Gambit1024: But he's supposed to be a god right? XD

    Yeah, but that don't mean shiet.

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    #20  Edited By RyuHayabusa

    They are pretty much equal but i feel like Superman would beat Billy because of his other powers.

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    #21  Edited By Gambit1024

    @Primmaster64 said:

    @Gambit1024: But he's supposed to be a god right? XD

    Like Superman's not? lol

    He could do exactly what Hecules can do, plus like, a billion other things.

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    #22  Edited By Deranged Midget

    Billy only get's the upper hand on Superman due to magic.

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    Those of you saying Superman can lift more so he'd win in a fight have never actually been in a real fight. That's like saying the worlds strongest weightlifter could beat Bruce Lee in a fight just cuz he can lift more.

    Superman and Captain Marvel's fighting strength is pretty much equal as is there durability. Superman probably edges him on speed, but Captain Marvel has magic, which is Superman's weakness. The new Captain Marvel can even shoot magic projectiles from his hands, by all accounts he could trounce Superman 4/5 of the time. But since Superman is DC's firstborn so to speak, they always allow him to hang even when he should easily lose.

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    They both have infinite potential imo

    But Superman is more powerful usually

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    #25  Edited By Bats_Colony
    @revamp said:

    @Primmaster64 said:

    @Gambit1024: But he's supposed to be a god right? XD

    Yeah, but that don't mean shiet.

    True! In DC people either pray to god or hope for the next best thing. The man with the http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111195141/4189741-cyborg_superman_icon_by_jeremymallin-d417pyj.png on his chest.

    Regarding who's more powerful between Captain Marvel and Superman-- with only raw speculation based on their power sets, it'd be common sense to conclude that Marvel would win. Even with magic, a clash between them wouldn't necessarily mean a victory for Captain Marvel. Although Superman is weak against magic, Captain might do something unwitty and find himself in an unfavorable position. I mean, a punch from any one of these powerhouses is enough to slow the other down just long enough for the tables to turn.

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    from what i know(which is granted very little) id imagine him on par with Wonder Woman strength wise...so basically almost as strong as supes but not quite

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    @willienotwilliam:

    I figured out why Captain Marvel never beats superman.

    Let me state that for the record, Marvel has to be a physical match for superman. He has the strength of hercules, who, in greek mythology, freed Prometheus by breaking his ADAMATINE chains, a feat that Superman has NEVER acomplished. Hercules is a GOD OF OLYMPUS, higher than any Kryptonian. With that being said, why the hell does Superman wipe the floor with marvel every time they fight?

    1. Captain Marvel is a dumbass. He always has to say "shazam" in battles. Every fight with Superman alwaya ends up at a point where Marvel is holding Superman and yelling "Shazam!" Which strikes superman. Superman always flips marvel around hitting him with his own lightning. Although effective for damaging superman, it inevitably backfires.

    2. Captain Marvel is a 10 year old "boy scout." Although Superman doesnt like to fight, he is not afraid to get a little dirty. Marvel almost always hesitates before battle, therefore lacking confidence like superman.

    3. Superman has years more experience in what he has done. Superman is used to fight adversaries more powerful than himself. Lets face it, Shazams adversaries are nothing compared to supermans.

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    @kaisermarvel343: but wonder woman is said to have the strength of hercules as well so thats why im always confused about how strong shazam is meant to be, and now in the n52 he has the strength of a demi god which would be pre god of war WW strength so idk

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    Captain Marvel he is almost as strong as Superman, and Superman is also vulnerable to magic to help give him an edge. He is also very intelligent and can be quick thinking. Also to the original poster dont read New 52 Shazam it sucks.

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    Everyone us saying that Shazam would win due to magic but its not like supes is weak to it like he is kryptonite its like saying batman would lose to everyone with a gun, because the gun could hurt him. Superman outclasses him in every aspect besides obviously magic and he has much more experience and i . a better fighter, supes will win 8/10

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    Depends on the versions.

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    This. but Mostly Yes.

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    @willienotwilliam: @turoksonofstone:

    In greek mythology, after Hera kills hercules, Zeus elevates Hercules to Godhood and literally names him the God of strength, where He lives on olympus with the gods (the 12 main gods are not the only gods on olympus, just the most powerful). He also has the power of zeus, which could include his strength. So unless you believe that superman is stronger than olympus Gods, then He has to be a physical match. Shazam doesnt lose to superman because of physical inferiority, its all mentality.

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    @kaisermarvel343: it depends because at onepoint herc is a demigod and that's what shazam gets compared to and by that logic pre n52 ww is stronger than supes which obviously isnt true though they are pretty close...either way dc is being inconsistent

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