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#51 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4480 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler: Precisely, I don't want him disappointed as I was with the books hilarious premise. Soon as more people stop buying the cancellation will come sooner.

well I think it's a good book, and I think lots of people would think that if they actually gave it a chance.

if you don't like it, whatever; but why are you trying to ruin other people's fun?

#52 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4527 posts) - - Show Bio

@evilvegeta74 said:

It be great, it would be even better if they could breakl all ties with anything Fox related!

I personally wouldn't mind if they created a different version of the X-Men characters from Fox's version. Maybe the characters would better reflect their personalities in the comics if Marvel got them, but then again, it all depends on who Marvel hires to do the remake for the X-Men.

I agree and have been saying this for the longest, I also feel like they ruined FF, Ghost Rider, and Daredevil!

#53 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5835 posts) - - Show Bio

@rabbitearsblog said:

@evilvegeta74 said:

It be great, it would be even better if they could breakl all ties with anything Fox related!

I personally wouldn't mind if they created a different version of the X-Men characters from Fox's version. Maybe the characters would better reflect their personalities in the comics if Marvel got them, but then again, it all depends on who Marvel hires to do the remake for the X-Men.

I agree and have been saying this for the longest, I also feel like they ruined FF, Ghost Rider, and Daredevil!

I agree about Ghost Rider and FF. It feels like they didn't get the true essence of these characters and the stories weren't well told. I hope that Marvel does a better job with Ghost Rider.

#54 Posted by Emequious_Swerve (1268 posts) - - Show Bio

@evilvegeta74 said:

@rabbitearsblog said:

@evilvegeta74 said:

It be great, it would be even better if they could breakl all ties with anything Fox related!

I personally wouldn't mind if they created a different version of the X-Men characters from Fox's version. Maybe the characters would better reflect their personalities in the comics if Marvel got them, but then again, it all depends on who Marvel hires to do the remake for the X-Men.

I agree and have been saying this for the longest, I also feel like they ruined FF, Ghost Rider, and Daredevil!

I agree about Ghost Rider and FF. It feels like they didn't get the true essence of these characters and the stories weren't well told. I hope that Marvel does a better job with Ghost Rider.

First of all, Fox just licenses the property and gives money to the filmmakers to make a movie and distributes it, there isn't a collective of people who ruin films named Fox or anything like that, its the films writers, producers, actors etc. that "ruin" the movie. In fact, Avi Arad, who is a CEO of Marvel Entertainment and founder of Marvel Studios co produced all the films you named.

Secondly, Mark Steven Johnson wrote and directed both Daredevil and Ghost Rider, so, I would be more inclined to blame him if you don't like these movies.

Third, Ghost Rider wasn't distributed by Fox. It was a Colombia Pictures release.

#55 Edited by evilvegeta74 (4527 posts) - - Show Bio

@emequious_swerve said:
@rabbitearsblog said:

@evilvegeta74 said:

@rabbitearsblog said:

@evilvegeta74 said:

It be great, it would be even better if they could breakl all ties with anything Fox related!

I personally wouldn't mind if they created a different version of the X-Men characters from Fox's version. Maybe the characters would better reflect their personalities in the comics if Marvel got them, but then again, it all depends on who Marvel hires to do the remake for the X-Men.

I agree and have been saying this for the longest, I also feel like they ruined FF, Ghost Rider, and Daredevil!

I agree about Ghost Rider and FF. It feels like they didn't get the true essence of these characters and the stories weren't well told. I hope that Marvel does a better job with Ghost Rider.

First of all, Fox just licenses the property and gives money to the filmmakers to make a movie and distributes it, there isn't a collective of people who ruin films named Fox or anything like that, its the films writers, producers, actors etc. that "ruin" the movie. In fact, Avi Arad, who is a CEO of Marvel Entertainment and founder of Marvel Studios co produced all the films you named.

Secondly, Mark Steven Johnson wrote and directed both Daredevil and Ghost Rider, so, I would be more inclined to blame him if you don't like these movies.

Third, Ghost Rider wasn't distributed by Fox. It was a Colombia Pictures release.

Let me put it to you simply anything Fox when it comes to being successful well the stats say it all contrary to what you say. Oh and Ghost Rider was a Sony release! Look at the numbers which prove my point, I don't care who directed or produced what! Here's a link for youhttp://boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=marvelcomics.htm

1Marvel's The AvengersBV$623,357,9104,349$207,438,7084,3495/4/12
2Iron Man 3BV$409,013,9944,253$174,144,5854,2535/3/13
3Spider-ManSony$403,706,3753,876$114,844,1163,6155/3/02
4Spider-Man 2Sony$373,585,8254,166$88,156,2274,1526/30/04
5Spider-Man 3Sony$336,530,3034,324$151,116,5164,2525/4/07
6Iron ManPar.$318,412,1014,154$98,618,6684,1055/2/08
7Iron Man 2Par.$312,433,3314,390$128,122,4804,3805/7/10
8The Amazing Spider-ManSony$262,030,6634,318$62,004,6884,3187/3/12
9X-Men: The Last StandFox$234,362,4623,714$102,750,6653,6905/26/06
10X2: X-Men UnitedFox$214,949,6943,749$85,558,7313,7415/2/03
11ThorPar.$181,030,6243,963$65,723,3383,9555/6/11
12X-Men Origins: WolverineFox$179,883,1574,102$85,058,0034,0995/1/09
13Captain America: The First AvengerPar.$176,654,5053,715$65,058,5243,7157/22/11
14X-MenFox$157,299,7173,112$54,471,4753,0257/14/00
15Fantastic FourFox$154,696,0803,619$56,061,5043,6027/8/05
16X-Men: First ClassFox$146,408,3053,692$55,101,6043,6416/3/11
17The Incredible HulkUni.$134,806,9133,508$55,414,0503,5056/13/08
18HulkUni.$132,177,2343,674$62,128,4203,6606/20/03
19The WolverineFox$132,141,3473,924$53,113,7523,9247/26/13
20Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver SurferFox$131,921,7383,963$58,051,6843,9596/15/07
21Ghost RiderSony$115,802,5963,620$45,388,8363,6192/16/07
22DaredevilFox$102,543,5183,474$40,310,4193,4712/14/03
23Blade IINL$82,348,3192,707$32,528,0162,7073/22/02
24BladeNL$70,087,7182,389$17,073,8562,3228/21/98
25Blade: TrinityNL$52,411,9062,912$16,061,2712,91212/8/04
26Ghost Rider: Spirit of VengeanceSony$51,774,0023,174$22,115,3343,1742/17/12
27The PunisherLions$33,810,1892,649$13,834,5272,6494/16/04
28ElektraFox$24,409,7223,204$12,804,7933,2041/14/05
29Howard the DuckUni.$16,295,7741,563$5,070,1361,5548/1/86
30Punisher: War ZoneLGF$8,050,9772,508$4,271,4512,50812/5/08
-Man-ThingLionsn/a-n/a-N/A
TOTAL:$5,572,936,999----
AVERAGE:$185,764,5673,559$67,746,5463,535-
#56 Posted by Emequious_Swerve (1268 posts) - - Show Bio

Let me put it to you simply anything Fox when it comes to being successful well the stats say it all contrary to what you say. Oh and Ghost Rider was a Sony release! Look at the numbers which prove my point, I don't care who directed what!

Sony owns Colombia pictures, which is why Spider-Man films are also listed under Sony, because they are released by Colombia Pictures.

What exactly is that list proving?? Two X-Men films outperformed 80% of films released by Marvel Studios, lol.

Anyways, Fox just distributes the film, not to mention the popularity of the characters and names involved with the film lends credibility to its box office performance.

#57 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4527 posts) - - Show Bio

Basically Fox related comic movie adaptations haven't turned out so well ! The chart supports this! I will be happy when Marvel get's their rights back to all of their characters. Now what exactly is it that you are trying to say? And here's a link http://boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=marvelcomics.htm

1Marvel's The AvengersBV$623,357,9104,349$207,438,7084,3495/4/12
2Iron Man 3BV$409,013,9944,253$174,144,5854,2535/3/13
3Spider-ManSony$403,706,3753,876$114,844,1163,6155/3/02
4Spider-Man 2Sony$373,585,8254,166$88,156,2274,1526/30/04
5Spider-Man 3Sony$336,530,3034,324$151,116,5164,2525/4/07
6Iron ManPar.$318,412,1014,154$98,618,6684,1055/2/08
7Iron Man 2Par.$312,433,3314,390$128,122,4804,3805/7/10
8The Amazing Spider-ManSony$262,030,6634,318$62,004,6884,3187/3/12
9X-Men: The Last StandFox$234,362,4623,714$102,750,6653,6905/26/06
10X2: X-Men UnitedFox$214,949,6943,749$85,558,7313,7415/2/03
11ThorPar.$181,030,6243,963$65,723,3383,9555/6/11
12X-Men Origins: WolverineFox$179,883,1574,102$85,058,0034,0995/1/09
13Captain America: The First AvengerPar.$176,654,5053,715$65,058,5243,7157/22/11
14X-MenFox$157,299,7173,112$54,471,4753,0257/14/00
15Fantastic FourFox$154,696,0803,619$56,061,5043,6027/8/05
16X-Men: First ClassFox$146,408,3053,692$55,101,6043,6416/3/11
17The Incredible HulkUni.$134,806,9133,508$55,414,0503,5056/13/08
18HulkUni.$132,177,2343,674$62,128,4203,6606/20/03
19The WolverineFox$132,141,3473,924$53,113,7523,9247/26/13
20Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver SurferFox$131,921,7383,963$58,051,6843,9596/15/07
21Ghost RiderSony$115,802,5963,620$45,388,8363,6192/16/07
22DaredevilFox$102,543,5183,474$40,310,4193,4712/14/03
23Blade IINL$82,348,3192,707$32,528,0162,7073/22/02
24BladeNL$70,087,7182,389$17,073,8562,3228/21/98
25Blade: TrinityNL$52,411,9062,912$16,061,2712,91212/8/04
26Ghost Rider: Spirit of VengeanceSony$51,774,0023,174$22,115,3343,1742/17/12
27The PunisherLions$33,810,1892,649$13,834,5272,6494/16/04
28ElektraFox$24,409,7223,204$12,804,7933,2041/14/05
29Howard the DuckUni.$16,295,7741,563$5,070,1361,5548/1/86
30Punisher: War ZoneLGF$8,050,9772,508$4,271,4512,50812/5/08
-Man-ThingLionsn/a-n/a-N/A
TOTAL:$5,572,936,999----
AVERAGE:$185,764,5673,559$67,746,5463,535-
#58 Posted by Emequious_Swerve (1268 posts) - - Show Bio

Basically Fox related comic movie adaptations haven't turned out so well ! The chart supports this! I will be happy when Marvel get's their rights back to all of their characters. Now what exactly is it that you are trying to say? And here's a link http://boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=marvelcomics.htm

I was saying that some of your information was wrong.

And it looks like Fox films do OK. I mean X-Men 3 is up there. I mean isn't the highest grossing film of all time "Avatar" a 20th Century Fox release??

#59 Edited by evilvegeta74 (4527 posts) - - Show Bio

We are talking comic movie adaptations here, Avatar doesn't count! Good point though! Ok I stand corrected as some of your information was wrong as well! I just think we can get better Xmen movies ,FF,Daredevil, etc.... if marvel get's the rights back to all of it characters. And now that Mickey Mouse , I mean Disney owns the company, the sky is the limit for funding a Marvel Movie. Even better it would be great to have the Xmen and the Avengers in the same movie, do you not agree?

#60 Posted by phisigmatau (515 posts) - - Show Bio

We are talking comic movie adaptations here, Avatar doesn't count! Good point though! Ok I stand corrected as some of your information was wrong as well! I just think we can get better Xmen movies ,FF,Daredevil, etc.... if marvel get's the rights back to all of it characters. And now that Mickey Mouse , I mean Disney owns the company, the sky is the limit for funding a Marvel Movie. Even better it would be great to have the Xmen and the Avengers in the same movie, do you not agree?

that would completely suck

#61 Edited by tigerkaya (1262 posts) - - Show Bio

@evilvegeta74 said:

We are talking comic movie adaptations here, Avatar doesn't count! Good point though! Ok I stand corrected as some of your information was wrong as well! I just think we can get better Xmen movies ,FF,Daredevil, etc.... if marvel get's the rights back to all of it characters. And now that Mickey Mouse , I mean Disney owns the company, the sky is the limit for funding a Marvel Movie. Even better it would be great to have the Xmen and the Avengers in the same movie, do you not agree?

that would completely suck

Agreed, I don't want the X-men anywhere near the MCU.

#62 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4527 posts) - - Show Bio

@phisigmatau said:

@evilvegeta74 said:

We are talking comic movie adaptations here, Avatar doesn't count! Good point though! Ok I stand corrected as some of your information was wrong as well! I just think we can get better Xmen movies ,FF,Daredevil, etc.... if marvel get's the rights back to all of it characters. And now that Mickey Mouse , I mean Disney owns the company, the sky is the limit for funding a Marvel Movie. Even better it would be great to have the Xmen and the Avengers in the same movie, do you not agree?

that would completely suck

Agreed, I don't want the X-men anywhere near the MCU.

Understood but I still wanna see better quality X-men movies. I would like to see other characters from the MCU appearing in the same movies, even a cameo. I'd even like to see a Defenders movie with the Hulk ,Namor, Dr.Strange, Silver Surfer and perhaps Valkyrie, but Fox has the rights to the Surfer and Namor I think!

#63 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5835 posts) - - Show Bio

@phisigmatau said:

@evilvegeta74 said:

We are talking comic movie adaptations here, Avatar doesn't count! Good point though! Ok I stand corrected as some of your information was wrong as well! I just think we can get better Xmen movies ,FF,Daredevil, etc.... if marvel get's the rights back to all of it characters. And now that Mickey Mouse , I mean Disney owns the company, the sky is the limit for funding a Marvel Movie. Even better it would be great to have the Xmen and the Avengers in the same movie, do you not agree?

that would completely suck

Agreed, I don't want the X-men anywhere near the MCU.

I don't think I could handle another AvX event if they decided to put the X-Men in the MCU.

#64 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4527 posts) - - Show Bio

@tigerkaya said:

@phisigmatau said:

@evilvegeta74 said:

We are talking comic movie adaptations here, Avatar doesn't count! Good point though! Ok I stand corrected as some of your information was wrong as well! I just think we can get better Xmen movies ,FF,Daredevil, etc.... if marvel get's the rights back to all of it characters. And now that Mickey Mouse , I mean Disney owns the company, the sky is the limit for funding a Marvel Movie. Even better it would be great to have the Xmen and the Avengers in the same movie, do you not agree?

that would completely suck

Agreed, I don't want the X-men anywhere near the MCU.

I don't think I could handle another AvX event if they decided to put the X-Men in the MCU.

Go with a cameo!

#65 Edited by SideburnGuru (1338 posts) - - Show Bio

You don't really need to add all the X-Men in. Just add Wolverine.

Yeah, I know. Might as well do what Marvel does in their comics to the MCU. "WHY THROW IN THE X-MEN, WHEN YOU CAN THROW IN THE ONE ALL THE CASUAL FANS CARE ABOUT?"

Truthfully, if it comes to movies at least, I could see it being better. Big issue in New York, Hughverine walks in. "Charles sends his regards. Figured you could use back up." To Fury. Get some good dialouge between the characters. Or have Nick Fury announce to the team they're getting special help from an outside source. Bring in Wolverine.

It'd work. That's about the only thing that I can say I continously love about FOX's X-Men movies is Hughverine.

#66 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5835 posts) - - Show Bio

@rabbitearsblog said:

@tigerkaya said:

@phisigmatau said:

@evilvegeta74 said:

We are talking comic movie adaptations here, Avatar doesn't count! Good point though! Ok I stand corrected as some of your information was wrong as well! I just think we can get better Xmen movies ,FF,Daredevil, etc.... if marvel get's the rights back to all of it characters. And now that Mickey Mouse , I mean Disney owns the company, the sky is the limit for funding a Marvel Movie. Even better it would be great to have the Xmen and the Avengers in the same movie, do you not agree?

that would completely suck

Agreed, I don't want the X-men anywhere near the MCU.

I don't think I could handle another AvX event if they decided to put the X-Men in the MCU.

Go with a cameo!

Even better! :D

#67 Edited by mikex20 (2769 posts) - - Show Bio

It would be cool to see Hulk fight Wolverine or Juggernaut in a big budget, live action movie.

#68 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4480 posts) - - Show Bio

@mikex20 said:

It would be cool to see Hulk fight Wolverine or Juggernaut in a big budget, live action movie.

that would be some sweet :v

#69 Posted by tigerkaya (1262 posts) - - Show Bio

@rabbitearsblog: brr gives me nightmares of such a horrid story makes me even more grateful Marvel Studios doesn't have the rights to them.

#70 Edited by Rabbitearsblog (5835 posts) - - Show Bio

@rabbitearsblog: brr gives me nightmares of such a horrid story makes me even more grateful Marvel Studios doesn't have the rights to them.

Yep!

#71 Posted by flameboy298 (1889 posts) - - Show Bio

I wouldnt mind it I mean they should have them back.I mean ITS THEIR characters to begin with until they sold the rights.

#72 Edited by Rabbitearsblog (5835 posts) - - Show Bio

I wouldnt mind it I mean they should have them back.I mean ITS THEIR characters to begin with until they sold the rights.

Yeah, I think Marvel would know what to do with the X-men.

#74 Posted by CheeseSticks (2451 posts) - - Show Bio

No, i also think that X-Men comics should be independents from the rest of the MCU. There's so much X-character potential wasted.

#75 Posted by gor724 (827 posts) - - Show Bio

Absolutely not. If they were in the MCU, Marvel obviously would have gotten the rights back. We wouldn't realistically get to an X-Men movie until 2025. It's better that X-Men, FF, and Spiderman belong to different studios. It equals more movies. And more movies is better.

#76 Posted by tigerkaya (1262 posts) - - Show Bio

Actually I want the Fantastic Four and Spider-Man back at MCU, the X-men can stay in FOX for all I care. Now if only Marvel can be rid of them in the Marvel Universe in their own separate line.

#77 Edited by flameboy298 (1889 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes it would.I dont know why people think if X-men does go back to Marvel it'll get over shadowed by the Avengers.By the time Marvel gets Avengers back Avengers will be done.Also if they get the rights back they'll just be cameos by the avengers and thats it..Marvel isn't Fox you dont see them throwing out multiple Iron-Man movies like Fox does with Wolverine.Marvel knows what their doing..I have more faith in Marvel than I do DC.Hopefully they do get the rights back and Days of Future Past is a total failure and so is the X-force movies all the X-men movies are Wolverine...Wolverine.Yes I realize Wolverine is very profitable but making him the star in every X-men movie and giving him his own movie every year is over doing it theirs other X-men that deserve that attention.

#78 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5835 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes it would.I dont know why people think if X-men does go back to Marvel it'll get over shadowed by the Avengers.By the time Marvel gets Avengers back Avengers will be done.Also if they get the rights back they'll just be cameos by the avengers and thats it..Marvel isn't Fox you dont see them throwing out multiple Iron-Man movies like Fox does with Wolverine.Marvel knows what their doing..I have more faith in Marvel than I do DC.Hopefully they do get the rights back and Days of Future Past is a total failure and so is the X-force movies all the X-men movies are Wolverine...Wolverine.Yes I realize Wolverine is very profitable but making him the star in every X-men movie and giving him his own movie every year is over doing it theirs other X-men that deserve that attention.

I actually agree with all this. I think that by the time Marvel gets the rights back to the X-Men, the Avengers' popularity would start waning and this would give the X-Men a chance to shine again. I do think that if Marvel did get the rights back, they would have focused more time on the other X-Men characters besides Wolverine and that's probably the only reason I would be okay with Marvel possibly getting the rights back (but I'm also worried about Marvel trying to push the X-Men into the Avengers movies when they don't really need to be there).

#79 Edited by tigerkaya (1262 posts) - - Show Bio

Agreed the Avengers popularity from the films will die down eventually and the focus will be on another team or hero but I don't want the X-men in the MCU, at all. Marvel has too many properties that deserve the lime light to be overshadowed by the excessive overexposure of Wolverine and the X-men. I say its better this way