Can't see why that should be a problems groups that are hatred like black and gays, can also have hatred to wards others. I have met gay people disliking straight people and muslims. Blacks and arabs having hatred towards white people just because you are minority or a group that is often meets hatred doesn't mean that there aren't individuals in that group that can have hatred towards other people.
As a Cypher/Warlock fan, I'm still almost surprised he's only been put down once on this list.
this is sort of random, but ever since Iron Man started being black and gold, to signify that his suit is empty because he's actually out in space, I've been thinking that it would have been cooler if Cypher and Warlock had actually been taking his place as Iron Man on Earth. Like Rhodey did during the mid 80's. That would have been a way cooler way to integrate some of the classic New Mutants characters than, say, putting Cannonball and Sunspot on the team and doing nothing with them.
If you quantify worst X-Men by how little they've contributed to the dream, it would be:
Mystique and Sabretooth - Done more harm than good, even with X-Factor and Rogue's team.
Omerta and Wraith - They did one mission, and even so, they barely did anything.
Sunfire and Sunpyre - Sunfire went all Apocalypse and robot legs, while Sunpyre did nearly nothing.
Gosamyr - Who? Preicsely.
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I'm giving Beak the benefit of the doubt because of Here Comes Tomorrow's Tito and his post House Of M appearance.
This seems like a really fair way to do this. And in further defense of Beak, it should be appreciated that, despite all of the trouble he caused, he was quite heroic and has actually at least helped save the day a few times in his short career.
haha! Sunfire is a dick, but I do like that about him as a character. That said, I was never really interested in him as an X-man. I like that he's on the Avengers now, though.
As a Cypher/Warlock fan, I'm still almost surprised he's only been put down once on this list.
this is sort of random, but ever since Iron Man started being black and gold, to signify that his suit is empty because he's actually out in space, I've been thinking that it would have been cooler if Cypher and Warlock had actually been taking his place as Iron Man on Earth. Like Rhodey did during the mid 80's. That would have been a way cooler way to integrate some of the classic New Mutants characters than, say, putting Cannonball and Sunspot on the team and doing nothing with them.
If you quantify worst X-Men by how little they've contributed to the dream, it would be:
Mystique and Sabretooth - Done more harm than good, even with X-Factor and Rogue's team.
Omerta and Wraith - They did one mission, and even so, they barely did anything.
Sunfire and Sunpyre - Sunfire went all Apocalypse and robot legs, while Sunpyre did nearly nothing.
Gosamyr - Who? Preicsely.
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I'm giving Beak the benefit of the doubt because of Here Comes Tomorrow's Tito and his post House Of M appearance.
This seems like a really fair way to do this. And in further defense of Beak, it should be appreciated that, despite all of the trouble he caused, he was quite heroic and has actually at least helped save the day a few times in his short career.
haha! Sunfire is a dick, but I do like that about him as a character. That said, I was never really interested in him as an X-man. I like that he's on the Avengers now, though.
What's that about Iron Man? I've never really read any Iron Man outside of Avengers titles.
Cannonball and Sunspot can be found in like three panels in this weeks issue of Hickman's Avengers (side-note: not a fan of that series, glad I only flicked through in store).
That's exactly what I've been trying to say about beak in this thread and how I've been trying to rate the worst X-Men. A character that's characteristically unheroic, betrays the team or displays negative personality traits (to an extreme) is a much worse ambassador of Xavier's dream than a character, like Beak, with lame powers but a heroic mindset.
What's that about Iron Man? I've never really read any Iron Man outside of Avengers titles.
Cannonball and Sunspot can be found in like three panels in this weeks issue of Hickman's Avengers (side-note: not a fan of that series, glad I only flicked through in store).
As I understand it, the Iron Man who is currently on the Avengers (and the Illuminati) is actually just an empty Iron Man suit being piloted by remote from across the galaxy by Tony Stark, who is actually phisically with the Guardians of the Galaxy.
The fact that that suit is black and gold (the same colors as Warlock usually is) gave me the idea that it would have been cool if the Iron Man who is on the Avengers right now was actually Cypher and Warlock, who were filling in for Stark as Iron Man while he's away off-planet. That's all.
I only mentioned it because I think it could have been fun and interesting to see Cypher and Warlock taking on that role, and it would even sort of make sense, since Stark's already on two other superhero teams at the moment.
But, yeah, I gave up on Hickman's Avengers a few issues ago. Not enough engaging interaction between the mostly wasted members of the cast, for me.
I know! I mean, a good proportion of the reason I picked up the book is because I was a NM fan, but Sunspot and Cannonball has done almost nothing since the book started, besides get in a argument with Superior Spider-Man over taking their lunch. I'm seeing this book till Infinity, then dropping it and selling off my issues I guess.
I always belived Cypher/Warlock shouldve been at JGSchool either teaching, or providing mission intel.
At least Beak didn't betray the team. Multiple teams. Multiples times. Over and over again. He had good in his heart, and I guess that counts for something.
There are a lot of good candidates, but I feel like someone should mention Random. I don't think he was technically an X-Man, but he was a horrible character.
Omega Sentinel has amazingly taken the lead in my opinion of worst X-Men ever over Maggot, Longneck and the girl with multiple mouths on her neck. That character is just a bad idea and not stable.
@kenleo101: He is a hypocrite. My favorite example is him abducting Mystique from the US authorities, and demand that she works for him, and wont shut up about how much better he is than her.
The reason to why I think of him as the "worst X-man" is, that he is the symbol. Not just to the X, but to all the mutants. So him compromising his ideals is like Martin Luther King working with the Black Panthers.
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