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Posted by oldnightcrawler (4414 posts) 1 year, 1 month ago

Poll: What are your favorite current X-men books? (59 votes)

X-men 46%
Uncanny X-men 34%
All-new X-men 53%
Astonishing X-men 12%
Wolverine and the X-men 12%
Ultimate Comics X-men 15%
X-men Legacy 5%
reprints and back issues? 15%

Vote for every book you're enjoying currently! You can vote for more than one book! Vote for them all, if you want!!

I noticed on some other polls that people always want to say what they're second and third favorite books are, so it seems like most X-fans here are usually reading and enjoying more than one book; this seemed like a better way to see what people really think the best current titles are, without having to limit your choices to just one book (though, I have limited it to just X-men books).

#1 Posted by John Valentine (16307 posts) - - Show Bio

Not going to lie, I like pretty much everything at the moment, even the past few issues of WaTXM.

X-Men Vol.4 is fantastic, Bendis' issues this week were great and Liu's Legacy is finally interesting me.

2013/Marvel NOW! is a good time to be an X-fan.

#2 Posted by Xwraith (16727 posts) - - Show Bio

X-Men vol. 4. The X-Men I fell in love with 10 years ago is back.

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#3 Edited by oldnightcrawler (4414 posts) - - Show Bio

Not going to lie, I like pretty much everything at the moment, even the past few issues of WaTXM.

X-Men Vol.4 is fantastic, Bendis' issues this week were great and Liu's Legacy is finally interesting me.

2013/Marvel NOW! is a good time to be an X-fan.

yeah, I kind of agree with all of this. Really surprised how much I enjoyed Astonishing' #62 and 63. There are definitely books that interest me more than others, but all in all, I think the line as a whole has a nice amount of scope.

#4 Edited by McKlayn (1073 posts) - - Show Bio

yea the new Astonishing with Iceman were pretty interesting, and yea i can't lie i not digging Wolverine And The X men but other then that I sold atm lol

#5 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4414 posts) - - Show Bio

@xwraith said:

X-Men vol. 4. The X-Men I fell in love with 10 years ago is back.

do you mean this team?

I only ask because I don't know anyone who started in this period.

#6 Posted by chalkshark (1187 posts) - - Show Bio

Disappointed that X-Factor was not listed among the choices.

#7 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4414 posts) - - Show Bio

Disappointed that X-Factor was not listed among the choices.

There are two reasons I didn't list it; firstly because it's pretty much it's own thing at this point, distinct enough at least to not be compared to (other) X-men books, but also because it's ending soon

#8 Posted by papad1992 (6827 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler: No X-Factor!? That series is awesome right now! It's ending, but very gracefully!

And I voted for the female-X-Men book, because the first two issues were AMAZING, art and all. And I also voted for Astonishing X-Men because although I was very critical of the transition of another Wolverine-team book and Northstar's marriage and Karma's story... the current story-arc is amazing and the art is very easy-on-the-eyes! And I also voted for reprints and older stories because they're something I can read over and over again that are classic reads! I was going to vote for All New X-Men and Uncanny X-Men but I dropped those series a few weeks back (along with Uncanny X-Force) because it seemed to not go anywhere for the longest time and I just don't have enough $ to keep up with each title! So I'm sticking to the "independent" titles!

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#12 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4414 posts) - - Show Bio

And I voted for the female-X-Men book, because the first two issues were AMAZING, art and all. And I also voted for Astonishing X-Men because although I was very critical of the transition of another Wolverine-team book and Northstar's marriage and Karma's story... the current story-arc is amazing and the art is very easy-on-the-eyes! And I also voted for reprints and older stories because they're something I can read over and over again that are classic reads! I was going to vote for All New X-Men and Uncanny X-Men but I dropped those series a few weeks back (along with Uncanny X-Force) because it seemed to not go anywhere for the longest time and I just don't have enough $ to keep up with each title! So I'm sticking to the "independent" titles!

Too bad, but I think I would have made the exact same decision. Wood may still be pretty fresh on the characters, and Astonishing is just starting to get good again, but both of these books are great right now, and definitely most satisfying what I like about X-men comics. And, yeah, I think the art on the current issues of Astonishing is really pleasing.

#13 Posted by Rickbarry (1761 posts) - - Show Bio

I tossed a vote X-men's way. Dunno why the X-forces aren't listed as Cable's book is better than Uncanny and All New.

#14 Posted by John Valentine (16307 posts) - - Show Bio

@john_valentine said:

Not going to lie, I like pretty much everything at the moment, even the past few issues of WaTXM.

X-Men Vol.4 is fantastic, Bendis' issues this week were great and Liu's Legacy is finally interesting me.

2013/Marvel NOW! is a good time to be an X-fan.

yeah, I kind of agree with all of this. Really surprised how much I enjoyed Astonishing' #62 and 63. There are definitely books that interest me more than others, but all in all, I think the line as a whole has a nice amount of scope.

I haven't enjoyed the X-line this much since between M-Day and Messiah Complex with Carey's X-Men, early X-Factor, New X-Men.

#15 Edited by John Valentine (16307 posts) - - Show Bio

Actually, I take back what I said earlier on about being happy across the line, Cable and X-Force and Uncanny X-Force are weak links, IMO.

#16 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4414 posts) - - Show Bio

I tossed a vote X-men's way. Dunno why the X-forces aren't listed as Cable's book is better than Uncanny and All New.

The main reason I didn't include the X-force books (or X-factor) wasn't because I don't like them, I just think they're conceptually distinct enough to not have to be compared to X-men.

One of the things I was interested in seeing was which version of the X-men people are most into right now, so, if say, people are more into X-force than they are into the X-men, that doesn't really answer that question. X-force, by it's very nature, just is/should be something else besides what the X-men are.

#17 Posted by John Valentine (16307 posts) - - Show Bio

@rickbarry said:

I tossed a vote X-men's way. Dunno why the X-forces aren't listed as Cable's book is better than Uncanny and All New.

The main reason I didn't include the X-force books (or X-factor) wasn't because I don't like them, I just think they're conceptually distinct enough to not have to be compared to X-men.

One of the things I was interested in seeing was which version of the X-men people are most into right now, so, if say, people are more into X-force than they are into the X-men, that doesn't really answer that question. X-force, by it's very nature, just is/should be something else besides what the X-men are.

And what both X-Force books are is disappointing, to me at least.

#18 Posted by BaneStrokeLoboGrundyBatArrow (1391 posts) - - Show Bio

I guess uncanny or Wolverine and the x-men even though I usually skip buying them....

My most favorite though was defintly the original Uncanny X-men with Fantomex and Wolverine, and Deadpool, and Psylocke

#19 Posted by Veitha (2948 posts) - - Show Bio

Uncanny X-Men and All-New-X-Men

#20 Edited by papad1992 (6827 posts) - - Show Bio

@papad1992 said:

And I voted for the female-X-Men book, because the first two issues were AMAZING, art and all. And I also voted for Astonishing X-Men because although I was very critical of the transition of another Wolverine-team book and Northstar's marriage and Karma's story... the current story-arc is amazing and the art is very easy-on-the-eyes! And I also voted for reprints and older stories because they're something I can read over and over again that are classic reads! I was going to vote for All New X-Men and Uncanny X-Men but I dropped those series a few weeks back (along with Uncanny X-Force) because it seemed to not go anywhere for the longest time and I just don't have enough $ to keep up with each title! So I'm sticking to the "independent" titles!

Too bad, but I think I would have made the exact same decision. Wood may still be pretty fresh on the characters, and Astonishing is just starting to get good again, but both of these books are great right now, and definitely most satisfying what I like about X-men comics. And, yeah, I think the art on the current issues of Astonishing is really pleasing.

To be honest... the Astonishing title and the all-female X-Men title feel more cannon and act more "X-Men-ish" to me than both All New X-Men and Uncanny X-Men combined.

#21 Posted by McKlayn (1073 posts) - - Show Bio

@xwraith said:

X-Men vol. 4. The X-Men I fell in love with 10 years ago is back.

do you mean this team?

I only ask because I don't know anyone who started in this period.

I loved that title, i own every issue ;D

#22 Edited by Rickbarry (1761 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler: Meh, I still think you should put it up there. They're core X-titles and you skew the results if you just omit titles you don't like. 'Course, I dunno how many people would actually vote for it over X-men. It's trendy to like now. Where were all you band wagon people last year when this title didn't sell at all!? I was one of the eight people that bought it!

@john_valentine: It's fine you don't like it. I happen to think some of the other titles on the list are hot garbage, but I still think they should be listed!

#23 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4414 posts) - - Show Bio

To be honest... the Astonishing title and the all-female X-Men title feel more cannon and act more "X-Men-ish" to me than both All New X-Men and Uncanny X-Men combined.

yeah, I know what you mean. I have been enjoying Bendis' X-men, but not really for the things I like about the X-men specifically. It's more like how I feel when I watch an X-men cartoon, like it's a stylized version of the X-men, for a different audience; I do like it, I just don't think of it as definitive.

Wood and Lui seem to have approaches more in line with Claremont or the early 90's writers, in terms of tone, pacing, and characterization, which to me is a more classic X-men vibe.

#24 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4414 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler: Meh, I still think you should put it up there. They're core X-titles and you skew the results if you just omit titles you don't like. 'Course, I dunno how many people would actually vote for it over X-men. It's trendy to like now. Where were all you band wagon people last year when this title didn't sell at all!? I was one of the eight people that bought it!

I think those books would skew the results to include; the purpose of this poll was to see which current X-men books people were digging, not whether or not people like X-force more than X-men. And I never said I didn't like X-force, I said,

The main reason I didn't include the X-force books (or X-factor) wasn't because I don't like them, I just think they're conceptually distinct enough to not have to be compared to X-men.

meaning, to me, what makes X-force (or X-factor) interesting is that they aren't another version of the X-men, they're their own thing. Yes, the share a similar conceptual concept (that there are super-powered mutants), as well as some history, but ultimately, what has made every version of X-force (from Cable's to Wolverine's to the X-statics) distinct has been that they are fundamentally not the X-men.

#25 Posted by John Valentine (16307 posts) - - Show Bio

@mcklayn said:

@oldnightcrawler said:

@xwraith said:

X-Men vol. 4. The X-Men I fell in love with 10 years ago is back.

do you mean this team?

I only ask because I don't know anyone who started in this period.

I loved that title, i own every issue ;D

Really tapered off towards the end, though!

#26 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio

So tell me...what is this rationale? I mean Claremont was in from 76 to 91, you're cutting ALOT of years off there.

@xwraith said:

@oldnightcrawler: No, not at all. X2 got me into the (better) Claremont era.

you mean 1980-86, then..

#27 Edited by oldnightcrawler (4414 posts) - - Show Bio

@chasereis said:

So tell me...what is this rationale? I mean Claremont was in from 76 to 91, you're cutting ALOT of years off there.

@oldnightcrawler said:

@xwraith said:

@oldnightcrawler: No, not at all. X2 got me into the (better) Claremont era.

you mean 1980-86, then..

he said the (better) Claremont era, so I guessed the best era Claremont wrote. Basically from Days of Future Past to the end of the Mutant Massacre.

My second guess would be when he was writing back-ups for his own stories in X-men Classic.

#28 Edited by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler: Which just so happens to be the essential bulk of Classic X-Men and X-Men Classic ironically. I suppose your nothing if not consistent. Don't forget Annual 11, you know that is under your pillow at night. Please tell me you don't actually talk to it dude...

#29 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4414 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler: Which just so happens to be the essential bulk of Classic X-Men and X-Men Classic ironically. I suppose your nothing if not consistent. Don't forget Annual 11, you know that is under your pillow at night. Please tell me you don't actually talk to it dude...

it's more like whimpering through a ball-gag ;)

#30 Edited by McKlayn (1073 posts) - - Show Bio

@mcklayn said:

@oldnightcrawler said:

@xwraith said:

X-Men vol. 4. The X-Men I fell in love with 10 years ago is back.

do you mean this team?

I only ask because I don't know anyone who started in this period.

I loved that title, i own every issue ;D

Really tapered off towards the end, though!

yea it did, i have to admit that still the story where that guy (its been A LONG TIME since i read it so forgive my vagueness) was trying to invade earth and they put a force field around the island and only the x men could defend it, was pretty damn epic. Loved how so many got hurt and the team kind of changed afterwards, was really cool arc imo

#31 Edited by John Valentine (16307 posts) - - Show Bio

@papad1992 said:

To be honest... the Astonishing title and the all-female X-Men title feel more cannon and act more "X-Men-ish" to me than both All New X-Men and Uncanny X-Men combined.

yeah, I know what you mean. I have been enjoying Bendis' X-men, but not really for the things I like about the X-men specifically. It's more like how I feel when I watch an X-men cartoon, like it's a stylized version of the X-men, for a different audience; I do like it, I just don't think of it as definitive.

Wood and Lui seem to have approaches more in line with Claremont or the early 90's writers, in terms of tone, pacing, and characterization, which to me is a more classic X-men vibe.

Absolutely! Wood's X-Men has that classic X-Men feel.

#32 Posted by Breadspread (774 posts) - - Show Bio
#33 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4414 posts) - - Show Bio
#34 Posted by TDK_1997 (14648 posts) - - Show Bio

From those I should say X-Men Legacy.I really like what is happening in the book and after it is the new X-Men of Wood.Great start of the series.

#35 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler: and suddenly I have a chilling realistic vision of that occurring. I couldn't get rid of the nausea so I ended eating saltines and drinking 7up all night, thanks.

#36 Edited by papad1992 (6827 posts) - - Show Bio

@papad1992 said:

To be honest... the Astonishing title and the all-female X-Men title feel more cannon and act more "X-Men-ish" to me than both All New X-Men and Uncanny X-Men combined.

yeah, I know what you mean. I have been enjoying Bendis' X-men, but not really for the things I like about the X-men specifically. It's more like how I feel when I watch an X-men cartoon, like it's a stylized version of the X-men, for a different audience; I do like it, I just don't think of it as definitive.

Wood and Lui seem to have approaches more in line with Claremont or the early 90's writers, in terms of tone, pacing, and characterization, which to me is a more classic X-men vibe.

Exactly my point. The Cyclops Revolution/Wolverine's school is becoming a bit too old for my taste. Especially since they spend a total of 8 issues combined to tell one story that is paced a few hours apart! But now with Wood's new book and Astonishing's new direction, I feel like the concept and "feel" of the X-Men is starting to come back into the light!

#37 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4414 posts) - - Show Bio

Exactly my point. The Cyclops Revolution/Wolverine's school is becoming a bit too old for my taste. Especially since they spend a total of 8 issues combined to tell one story that is paced a few hours apart! But now with Wood's new book and Astonishing's new direction, I feel like the concept and "feel" of the X-Men is starting to come back into the light!

Yeah, I'm certainly glad to have some more classic feeling X-men to read, but I do like different styles of comics too, so I think there's room for both.

#38 Posted by tomchu (522 posts) - - Show Bio

@papad1992 said:

Exactly my point. The Cyclops Revolution/Wolverine's school is becoming a bit too old for my taste. Especially since they spend a total of 8 issues combined to tell one story that is paced a few hours apart! But now with Wood's new book and Astonishing's new direction, I feel like the concept and "feel" of the X-Men is starting to come back into the light!

Yeah, I'm certainly glad to have some more classic feeling X-men to read, but I do like different styles of comics too, so I think there's room for both.

Well, we get variety, dont we? which is pretty much the main X-Men idea of diversity.

I like how Bendis (and surprisingly, Jason Aaron) is trying to go into unexplored territory, and if we feel the books are getting too alien and since comic book fans hate change (especially X-Men fans, who herald the 80s' Claremont run even if the current run is half decent), then we can always fall back on familiar ground, like Wood's X-Men. Or remind ourselves of the early noughties with Peter David's X-Factor.

Is Astonishing any good? I have been staying clear of it for a long while.

#39 Edited by oldnightcrawler (4414 posts) - - Show Bio

@tomchu said:

Well, we get variety, dont we? which is pretty much the main X-Men idea of diversity.

I like how Bendis (and surprisingly, Jason Aaron) is trying to go into unexplored territory, and if we feel the books are getting too alien and since comic book fans hate change (especially X-Men fans, who herald the 80s' Claremont run even if the current run is half decent), then we can always fall back on familiar ground, like Wood's X-Men. Or remind ourselves of the early noughties with Peter David's X-Factor.

Is Astonishing any good? I have been staying clear of it for a long while.

It's been up and down since Lui took over, but I wholeheartedly recommend the current arc. Issues 62 and 63 have been a blast, and I really can't wait to see what happens next.

#40 Edited by oldnightcrawler (4414 posts) - - Show Bio

@breadspread said:

@oldnightcrawler: I don't care about your "rules". X-factor.

just out of curiosity (and to be bumpin' this thread), have you actually been reading any of the current X-men books or just X-factor?

#41 Posted by John Valentine (16307 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler: I don't care about your "rules". X-factor.

It's barely even an X-Book. Doesn't really deal with mutant affairs, for the past three and a half years (save for the SC tie-in) it's been pretty much about magic, just featuring borderline X-characters. Hasn't been linked to the main stories of the X-titles on the whole.

#42 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4414 posts) - - Show Bio

@breadspread said:

@oldnightcrawler: I don't care about your "rules". X-factor.

It's barely even an X-Book. Doesn't really deal with mutant affairs, for the past three and a half years (save for the SC tie-in) it's been pretty much about magic, just featuring borderline X-characters. Hasn't been linked to the main stories of the X-titles on the whole.

yeah, it was really only about the mutant stuff around crossovers, mostly.

#43 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4414 posts) - - Show Bio

I feel pretty confident that there's gotta be more than 35 people reading X-men comics around here..

#44 Posted by knighthood (1693 posts) - - Show Bio

My second guess would be when he was writing back-ups for his own stories in X-men Classic.

Honestly I haven't read much Classic because I grew up in a household with all the old issues. Would the back ups be worth picking up some back issues of Classic?

#45 Edited by oldnightcrawler (4414 posts) - - Show Bio

@knighthood: the backups are from the first 44 issues of Classic X-Men (before it became X-men Classic). The stories mostly revolve around what the X-men were doing between the missions of the reprinted stories; for example, the backup for the first issue takes place the night that the old and new X-men return from Krakoa, and examines the tensions between the two groups that leads to the original members leaving in the next issue.

If you're already familiar with the X-men of the late 70's, you probably have realized just how little down-time the team had in those days (when the team was still mostly a fairly traditional superhero group), at times being away for several missions at a time before eventually even getting to go home. These backups really help flesh out the characters and the relationships between them that may have only been loosely implied in the original stories.

In my mind, the backup stories are as good, if not better, than the feature stories being reprinted. The art in them is rarely anything special, but the characterization that Claremont would become famous for in the 80's (when Classic X-men also started) is in full force here, giving us a reason to really identify with the characters beyond their colorful adventures. Though they weren't printed until the mid 80's, these are probably my favorite X-men stories of the 70's.

So, basically, yeah, if you can find them for not too much, I'd definitely recommend picking them up, even above getting the originals or trade reprints of that era.

One of my personal favorites is the Big Dare!, from Classic X-Men #4 - Night of the Demon!, which shows, chronologically, the beginnings of Nightcrawler and Wolverine's legendary friendship. Just amazing stuff.

#46 Posted by knighthood (1693 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler: I have many of the originals already, but some newer additions and cover art would be nice. Plus I'd feel more comfortable reading the reprints than the originals. I'll check them out.

#47 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4414 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler: I have many of the originals already, but some newer additions and cover art would be nice. Plus I'd feel more comfortable reading the reprints than the originals. I'll check them out.

Yeah, see that's an interesting thing in itself: the backups are actually only available in these reprint books, but there's no reprints of the backups.. so despite being character defining, cannon stories, they're actually harder to come by than the original comics, which have mostly been reprinted several times over. If they were available in trades or something, I would definitely get them. Or a big omnibus of just the backup stories, even.

#48 Posted by Baberaham_Lincoln (921 posts) - - Show Bio

Uncanny cause of Bachalo and Cyclops... hehe. Not many like Bachalo, but i enjoy the shit out of his work =D

#49 Posted by knighthood (1693 posts) - - Show Bio

@baberaham_lincoln: Sharing that I hate Bachalo seems an appropriate way to waste my 1,000th post. I actually did like him on Generation X, but after seeing his art on W&tXM my opinion of his sharply dropped. I'm not certain why.

#50 Posted by deaditegonzo (3686 posts) - - Show Bio

All New X-Men is the only one I have any interested in.

Uncanny cause of Bachalo and Cyclops... hehe. Not many like Bachalo, but i enjoy the shit out of his work =D

Does that book focus on Cyke?