Rachel Grey is Wolverine's daughter

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@koays said:

no

When did this happen?

Is this a confirmed thing or just a theory?

@koays said:

rofl

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When Jean cheated on Cyclops with Logan

Neither. It's Avenger85....

Huh?

Beata

This is a troll right?

Nope, it's a fact. It's just that some ppl are unable to digest the bitter pill of truth in this case.

Lol some people...

AKA people in denial. They need to remove Rachel from the Summers family tree and add her to the Howlett tree. Anyways, I don't see her surviving beyond Secret Wars, so RIP Rachel Howlett.

@avenger85: -_- your playing with powers you don't understand my friend.

meh that cosmic fried chicken is old news.

Citation?

@koays: There's also the theory that Rachel is Hank McCoy's daughter, which also seems plausible. But the Howlett parentage is the fact.

@avenger85: That blue furred Sasquatch looking planet of the apes reject IS NOT RACHEL'S......

Nope you are not gonna bait me this time...nope not happening.

Actually, Rachel is the daughter of Wolverine and Gambit, not Jean.

Do you have any evidence to support this theory?

Is there evidence in the comics?

Yeah just read all of the X-Men comics. All the evidence you need is there.

What if it's the teen version of Hank that gets Teen Jean pregnant with Rachel, eh ?

I have. I think you need to post scans because I can't see it.

@avenger85: :PPPP no just admit it ur the father !!!!?!?!?!?!

I've seen no evidence that Logan is Rachel's father.

@william300: there is none its just his theory....his missed up theory. also hes a bit of a trool(troll+tool)

this BS again?

I'll admit that Teen Jean could be on the next episode of 16 and pregnant because she was knocked up by howard the freakin duck and I wouldn't care less about her....but if your selling that as an origin for Rachel, well then....

So it's just you reading into stuff that doesn't exist. Got it.

There's no need to lie

@koays said:

@avenger85 said:

@koays said:

@avenger85: That blue furred Sasquatch looking planet of the apes reject IS NOT RACHEL'S......

Nope you are not gonna bait me this time...nope not happening.

What if it's the teen version of Hank that gets Teen Jean pregnant with Rachel, eh ?

I'll admit that Teen Jean could be on the next episode of 16 and pregnant because she was knocked up by howard the freakin duck and I wouldn't care less about her....but if your selling that as an origin for Rachel, well then....

lol

It should happen on the later issues of Extraordinary X-men, where teen Jean and Old Man Logan fell in love.

@jhazzroucher: I hope you are joking, because that would be weird and kind of gross.

i feel uncomfortable

@zombietag: Uh, do you need an adult?

Truth, not BS

It's OK with Logan though.

It's an interesting theory...but it has proven to be untrue unfortunately.

The reasons why the theory ever carried any weight is because Rachels supposed tracking ability, and the fact that she had a personality more akin to Wolverines aggressive nature.....basically, it was hard to believe such an interesting, truculent conflicted character could be related to such a dud like Cyclops ;)

Sinister, confirmed with a family tree, that Rachel is not related to Wolverine at all let alone his daughter. I'll believe the guy that has extensive knowledge on the Summers/Grey genes.

@cattlebattle:

basically, it was hard to believe such an interesting, truculent conflicted character could be related to such a dud like Cyclops ;)

Right, because watching your family and friends killed, being raised in a prison camp, being brainwashed to hunt and kill your own people, then being sent to the past to stop it only to find out your mother never gave birth to you, but your father had a son with your mother's clone, and that the force that brought you to the past only did so because it felt bad, would have no affect on your personality at all.

eh, I'd buy it...but does it really matter? Everybody keeps saying she's gonna evaporate after Secret Wars. *single tear*

@koays: I didn't write that to antagonize. That is seriously the apparent reason why people used to throw her parentage into question.

I don't understand why you posted this, other than maybe you had an incessant need to list facts about the character of Rachel Grey. If you reread my post I never discredited her or anything, I merely stated that it was more believable for her to be related to Wolverine because of similar, more interesting character traits she shares with him as opposed to Cyclops, who has spent a large portion of his existence being kind of mundane.

@cattlebattle: Lol i got it, just found it funny that our last debate started with us agreeing before feuding over Cyclops being interesting.

That would be an awesome reveal.

Let's all hope she is Logan's until a definitive moment in a comic proves that she is some other guy's kid.

Awesome? Really?

I don't see how it can be any less idiotic than SW/QS "reveal".