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#1 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32993 posts) - - Show Bio

“Amazing X-Men” by Jason Aaron and artist Ed McGuinness and Nightcrawler returns

#2 Edited by John Valentine (16307 posts) - - Show Bio

They're giving Jason Aaron another X-Book. Would rather have a different writer.

Hmmm, I suppose his Nightcrawler in Wolverine Vol.4 was good. I'm on board as long as he doesn't indulge in the silliness of WaTXM and stills to the more series notes.

EDIT: Happy to have Kurt back!

#3 Posted by longbowhunter (7038 posts) - - Show Bio

Good to have Nightcrawler back.

#4 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32993 posts) - - Show Bio

@john_valentine: hmm since he has pirates in it I don't think it's going to be all that serious

#5 Posted by Jake Fury (18328 posts) - - Show Bio

Is that Firestar?

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#6 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32993 posts) - - Show Bio
#7 Edited by Jake Fury (18328 posts) - - Show Bio
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#8 Edited by John Valentine (16307 posts) - - Show Bio
#9 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32993 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonny_anonymous said:

@john_valentine: hmm since he has pirates in it I don't think it's going to be all that serious

Urgh, yeah. One can hope, though!

I kinda wished they'd left Storm and Wolverine out of this team as well

#10 Posted by John Valentine (16307 posts) - - Show Bio

@john_valentine said:
@jonny_anonymous said:

@john_valentine: hmm since he has pirates in it I don't think it's going to be all that serious

Urgh, yeah. One can hope, though!

I kinda wished they'd left Storm and Wolverine out of this team as well

Unusually, I can see the point of having Wolverine in this team due to his connection to Kurt. Same goes for Storm, although I realise the relationship between Kurt and Ororo isn't as great as between Logan and Kurt. It would make sense for Kitty to be on this team too.

#11 Edited by Jonny_Anonymous (32993 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonny_anonymous said:

@john_valentine said:
@jonny_anonymous said:

@john_valentine: hmm since he has pirates in it I don't think it's going to be all that serious

Urgh, yeah. One can hope, though!

I kinda wished they'd left Storm and Wolverine out of this team as well

Unusually, I can see the point of having Wolverine in this team due to his connection to Kurt. Same goes for Storm, although I realise the relationship between Kurt and Ororo isn't as great as between Logan and Kurt. It would make sense for Kitty to be on this team too.

Yea but I just wish Wolverine and Storm weren't in every single X-team

#12 Posted by biggkeem89 (1421 posts) - - Show Bio

Great to see Kurt back(hopefully its 616 Kurt), and is he fighting pirate Azazel? Also, I haven't seen Firestar in years. Great to see her getting some love

#13 Posted by Backflip (2262 posts) - - Show Bio

Hope that's not the actual costume they're sticking on Kurt....

However, I love this team. Firestar, Iceman, Northstar AND Nightcrawler?

Fangasm.

(Shame about the writer).

#14 Posted by John Valentine (16307 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonny_anonymous said:

Maybe they can be taken off another team? They're pretty needed on this one, IMO!

I like Firestar in the Ultimate Universe, but she's never really done anything of importance (at least in the last twenty-five years!) with the X-Men in 616, to my knowledge!

#15 Edited by Jonny_Anonymous (32993 posts) - - Show Bio
#16 Edited by HAWK2916 (1645 posts) - - Show Bio

Would rather they had Magma in that role but oh well. I hope its good though.

Im also a bit confused becauseI know Wolverine was close to Nightcrawler and all but this series is supposed to be about him trying to bring Nightcrawler back from the dead. I would have thought if anyone Wolvie would be trying to bring Jean Grey back. Maybe the series will be all about resurrecting dead xmen

#17 Posted by SideburnGuru (1338 posts) - - Show Bio

Hey look.

Wolverine is in another team. Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeyy...

#18 Posted by AgeofHurricane (7282 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't like this. I don't like Ororo's inclusion and i don't like the fact that Aaron is set to write yet another X-Series with the same damn characters. I'm not getting it. Are the editors actually advocating character stagnation or is this just laziness intertwined with the lust for the benjamins and severe lacking within the creative department ? Seriously, i mean, Firestar's cool, but she doesn't even make any sense, looks like more of a token-pet-character inclusion as opposed to adding some substantial dynamic. We have tons of obscure and criminally underused characters in the X-Verse, and alas, IT'S THE SAME BLOODY ONES. The X-Verse is in dire need of some creative refreshment if it's just gonna be the same old rosters with the same old rehashed plots. They're underhandedly driving the franchise into the ground. And it IS that deep.

Again, Ororo written by Aaron--let someone else suffer such a gruesome fate. This is just gonna be another story for Aaron to fan wank fan wank fan wank and fan wank some more with Wolverine. While deliberately disregarding current continuity regarding all characters. I can't.

Get some fresh blood, Marvel. This is embarrassing.

(obvz, my point's inconsequential as people as still gonna buy the shite out of this...)

#19 Posted by jhazzroucher (15544 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm will also be in the book oh yeah! : )

#20 Posted by cajunpirate (11 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm dying for Gambit to be in any book, and we get another book with Wolverine. Marvel can go jump in a lake. I'll buy DC, and avoid anything Marvel / Disney / ABC.

#21 Posted by tomasmaclgh (126 posts) - - Show Bio

@john_valentine said:

They're giving Jason Aaron another X-Book. Would rather have a different writer.

Agree. The last stories is WatX are a little bit weak.

I like the idea of having Firestar join a X-team.

#22 Edited by lorex (954 posts) - - Show Bio

I am of 2 minds about Aaron getting another title. I really love his work on Thor but I feel Wolverine and the X-Men has gone to shit reciently. While cover art does not usually indicate everything but we do not need another book with Wolverine in it. I will keep an eye out for this but I am not hopeful this will be any good.

#23 Edited by Omega Ray Jay (7660 posts) - - Show Bio

Another X-Men... Ah well, best of luck to them.

#24 Posted by jhazzroucher (15544 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonny_anonymous said:

@john_valentine said:
@jonny_anonymous said:

@john_valentine: hmm since he has pirates in it I don't think it's going to be all that serious

Urgh, yeah. One can hope, though!

I kinda wished they'd left Storm and Wolverine out of this team as well

Unusually, I can see the point of having Wolverine in this team due to his connection to Kurt. Same goes for Storm, although I realise the relationship between Kurt and Ororo isn't as great as between Logan and Kurt. It would make sense for Kitty to be on this team too.

but there is between Storm and Wolverine

#25 Posted by ShadowX (1218 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm really excited because I love Nightcrawler and I'm glad to see him back.

I understand why Storm and Wolverine are here since thosse two are some of his closest friends. but Wolverine Is on so many teamsss already. I dont mind storm really.

But tO be honest I would have loved to seen some of Nightcrawlers extendes family in this, Amanda Seftyon maybe, Nocturne, Rouge, Mystique. Hopefull they will show up though. Kitty pryde as well.

Although this is a pretty good team in the end. Glad to see some lgbt representation with Northstar.

I like Firestar but I don't understand her connection I would love to see where it goes and why she is here.

#26 Posted by John Valentine (16307 posts) - - Show Bio

@john_valentine said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

@john_valentine said:
@jonny_anonymous said:

@john_valentine: hmm since he has pirates in it I don't think it's going to be all that serious

Urgh, yeah. One can hope, though!

I kinda wished they'd left Storm and Wolverine out of this team as well

Unusually, I can see the point of having Wolverine in this team due to his connection to Kurt. Same goes for Storm, although I realise the relationship between Kurt and Ororo isn't as great as between Logan and Kurt. It would make sense for Kitty to be on this team too.

but there is between Storm and Wolverine

(Doesn't make sense).

#27 Edited by GonnaRain (752 posts) - - Show Bio

Yay, another book with Wolverine on it...

Seriously, glad to see Kurt, Firestar and even Iceman. But Wolverine and Storm?

I really hope it's not the final roster of the book.

And, when will Scott, Emma, Mags or Magik appear in other books? I'm liking Uncanny very much, but they're quite popular characters, and it seems like every other big X-Men is appearing in at least 3 books, while they're kept in just one.

#28 Edited by xmentas (175 posts) - - Show Bio

Yay more storm and Wolverine....I wonder how Storm can roll with Amazing X-men, X-Force, and the school all at once?

#29 Posted by Xwraith (16915 posts) - - Show Bio

Welcome back Kurt!

#30 Posted by JohnnyGat (1562 posts) - - Show Bio

@xmentas said:

Yay more storm and Wolverine....I wonder how Storm can roll with Amazing X-men, X-Force, and the school all at once?

She took lessons from Wolverine obviously.

#31 Posted by BaBaBoom (274 posts) - - Show Bio

Another X-men book with the usual X-men characters (except for Firestar). I'm not too hyped about this one. I'm hoping to see an X-book composed of unused characters (*cough* New X-men*cough*).

#32 Posted by slimlim (264 posts) - - Show Bio

Amazing.

Awesome that Nightcrawler is coming back. But maybe a bit too soon after the intro of AOA Nightcrawler.

As for Jason Aaron writing... i hope (although i doubt it will happen) this means the end of Wolverine and the X-Men. That book was fun at first, but its gotten stale, and its no Future Foundation. Wrap it up and let it go is what i say.

Also, i think Nightcrawler should join the Uncanny team. He died so that Hope could live. And the Avengers (and Wolverine) came pretty close to screwing up the whole reviving of the mutant race. btw, lets not rehash that argument over who was right and who was wrong. End of the day, it'll be boring if Nightcrawler joins Wolverine's crew. I'd much rather see him trying to help Scott "redeem" himself.

Yay for Firestar though. Hopefully they can work in some "ex-roomies" dialogue for her and Iceman.

#33 Posted by CTG (228 posts) - - Show Bio

Another book starring Wolverine, Storm, Iceman and Beast... yay.

Couldn't care less about Nightcrawler coming back.

#34 Edited by GonnaRain (752 posts) - - Show Bio

@ctg said:

Another book starring Wolverine, Storm, Iceman and Beast... yay.

Couldn't care less about Nightcrawler coming back.

To be fair, currently Iceman is just appearing in Astonishing if I'm not wrong. WatXM and ANXM he just makes random cameos without much dialogue or importance, even if we count Iceboy, aside from the last issue of ANXM, he was just background material.

Beast, even if I hate him, is pretty much in the same boat, he is just present in ANXM if I'm not mistaken.

#35 Edited by HAWK2916 (1645 posts) - - Show Bio

I would be a little more happy with a team set up to be a somewhat similar to DC's suicide squad going on missions where the chances of survival are low. This team would consist of Xmen who are seeking redemption and they would imo be good to take on a mission like this. My team would be: Psylocke, Colossus, Blink, Bishop and I guess because of his connection to Kurt, maybe Wolverine though in not keen on him being in yet another book, also bring in maybe Jubilee and Amanda Sefton

I still struggle a bit with the premise of this book though, because as I said before, my question is are they just rescuing Kurt or what about other that are dead like Jean grey, Banshee, Rusty Collins, Bedlam and others.

#36 Posted by Rickbarry (1761 posts) - - Show Bio

How lovely I get to see yet another book starring Logan, Iceman, Storm and Hank. It's not like we can't see these other mutants in a half dozen other ongoing comics. Give me Kurt, Kitty and Colossus over this roster any day.

I miss the blue team. Marvel Now is horrible for my reading tastes.

#37 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4423 posts) - - Show Bio

looking at this, I can't help but thinking that the best characters to involve in the return of Nightcrawler would probably be Wolverine, Storm, Kitty, and Rachel, all of whom Arron is already writing into the background of Wolverine and the X-men as the faculty. Beast and Iceman are in that too. It just makes me wonder why this story isn't being done in that book instead.

Is it because so many people dislike WatX-men, and they don't want to polarize the return of a classic character?

If it happened that this book was meant to replace that one, I would maybe have two reasons to be interested..

..but it does just feel like some over-kill, especially where Arron's approach to the X-men (and half of these same characters) in his other book has already been not all that great.

#38 Edited by GonnaRain (752 posts) - - Show Bio

I just hope that the new book "The Utopians" doesn't revolve around Wolverine, Storm, and even Kitty for a change. I really hope it's an Extinction Team book.

#39 Edited by slimlim (264 posts) - - Show Bio

If it happened that this book was meant to replace that one, I would maybe have two reasons to be interested..

I hope this is the case. WATXM had its moments. But im already tired of it. Apart from Quire, i don't really care much about the rest of the young students. Even if Amazing X-Men is a seperate title, I won't be surprised if the story works hand in hand with the happenings in WATXM. Probably to do with all the Bamfs in the school.

#40 Posted by jhazzroucher (15544 posts) - - Show Bio

@xmentas said:

Yay more storm and Wolverine....I wonder how Storm can roll with Amazing X-men, X-Force, and the school all at once?

She took lessons from Wolverine obviously.

Nice one! : )

#41 Posted by HAWK2916 (1645 posts) - - Show Bio

I just hope that the new book "The Utopians" doesn't revolve around Wolverine, Storm, and even Kitty for a change. I really hope it's an Extinction Team book.

Never heard of this. A book called the Utopians seriously?

#42 Posted by chem86 (358 posts) - - Show Bio

Hopefully someone can fill me in here... But hasn't Nightcrawler been back for a while now, he was in the majority of the remender uncanny x-force run. OR is this just his return to strictly x-men????

#43 Posted by Backflip (2262 posts) - - Show Bio

@chem86: Nightcrawler was killed by Bastion protecting Hope Summers during Second Coming (Tear-jerker)

Since then he's stayed dead. The Nightcrawler that you're talking about is the version from the Age of Apocalypse who crossed into the 616 Universe with Uncanny X-Force during Remender's run to hunt down Blob, Iceman etc.

So no, not the same characters (Vastly different in personality and approach) but an easy mistake to make.

#44 Edited by DEGRAAF (7875 posts) - - Show Bio

Nightcrawler looks different

#45 Posted by chem86 (358 posts) - - Show Bio

@backflip said:

@chem86: Nightcrawler was killed by Bastion protecting Hope Summers during Second Coming (Tear-jerker)

Since then he's stayed dead. The Nightcrawler that you're talking about is the version from the Age of Apocalypse who crossed into the 616 Universe with Uncanny X-Force during Remender's run to hunt down Blob, Iceman etc.

So no, not the same characters (Vastly different in personality and approach) but an easy mistake to make.

Thanks the info, makes sense now. I'm still kinda new to comics, only been into them for about a year now so still learning.

#46 Posted by gambit75 (57 posts) - - Show Bio

Replace Wolverine with Spider-man and I will buy the book.

#47 Posted by GonnaRain (752 posts) - - Show Bio

@hawk2916 said:

@gonnarain said:

I just hope that the new book "The Utopians" doesn't revolve around Wolverine, Storm, and even Kitty for a change. I really hope it's an Extinction Team book.

Never heard of this. A book called the Utopians seriously?

Apparently. I don't know much aside from what I just read at CBR, apparently it was said at the SDCC. Still there's not much known about it.

#48 Posted by papad1992 (6828 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler: @jhazzroucher: @ageofhurricane: This new series will coincide with Aaron's Wolverine and the X-Men series. Only it will treat the X-Men like how they used to be, "more classical and have them go on more missions." That's an understatement as I am opposed to Aaron's writing... especially on another title, with the same characters. Wolverine, ironically, fits here in this team and situation because of Kurt's return, but Iceman, Northstar, Beast, Storm, and especially Firestar are so unusually cast that they do not fit well here. Storm has had a good relationship before with Kurt and I assuming so has all the other X-Men, but let's have a bit more creativity inserted into this process of a new series.

#49 Posted by HopesummersFORtheFUTURE (2783 posts) - - Show Bio

great another wolverine book.....marvel enough already!!! geez

#50 Posted by papad1992 (6828 posts) - - Show Bio

great another wolverine book.....marvel enough already!!! geez

Well how about we (the fans/readers/consumers) make a statement and refuse to buy anything Wolverine related until Marvel learns that the X-Men have more members than the usual 5 they keep reusing!