#1 Posted by TheGreyOutcastX (2051 posts) - - Show Bio
#2 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio

Yay for Dodson boobs!

#3 Posted by God_Spawn (37146 posts) - - Show Bio

I can dig it. I really do like Coipel's artwork. He's one of my fave in Marvel. But Dodson is great himself. Lopez to me is solid too, but I wouldn't say he is one of best.

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#4 Posted by ragdollpurps (15571 posts) - - Show Bio

Yesss, I loved Lopez's art on Wood's previous X-Men run and Dodson draws a babelicious Betsy.

#5 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4178 posts) - - Show Bio

Coipel's still my favorite out of that bunch (and kind of in general), but I'm really excited to see David Lopez coming back.

I like Dodson a lot, but I do wonder if he might be a bit too cheesecake for this book..

#6 Posted by TheGreyOutcastX (2051 posts) - - Show Bio

Interesting sidepoint: the guys on CBR unleased so much hate on Dodson's art to the point Brian Wood posted comments defending Dodson.

briancwood: Yeah, that was a shock when I logged in to read this. Suddenly the book's a failure. And no one here knows to what extent Terry is even working on the book, aside from one cover. I said it to the haters early on, and I'll say it to the haters now: can you not just wait and judge the actual book on its merits? ('Course not)

#7 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4178 posts) - - Show Bio

Interesting sidepoint: the guys on CBR unleased so much hate on Dodson's art to the point Brian Wood posted comments defending Dodson.

briancwood: Yeah, that was a shock when I logged in to read this. Suddenly the book's a failure. And no one here knows to what extent Terry is even working on the book, aside from one cover. I said it to the haters early on, and I'll say it to the haters now: can you not just wait and judge the actual book on its merits? ('Course not)

what were CBR's criticisms?

#8 Edited by TheGreyOutcastX (2051 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler said:
@thegreyoutcastx said:

Interesting sidepoint: the guys on CBR unleased so much hate on Dodson's art to the point Brian Wood posted comments defending Dodson.

briancwood: Yeah, that was a shock when I logged in to read this. Suddenly the book's a failure. And no one here knows to what extent Terry is even working on the book, aside from one cover. I said it to the haters early on, and I'll say it to the haters now: can you not just wait and judge the actual book on its merits? ('Course not)

what were CBR's criticisms?

Pretty much that Dodson makes cheesecake characters, and the irony that they would put him on an all women X-book. But note: that I meant forum posters on CBR, not any bigwig.

Here if you want to take a look yourself.

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?453913-Dodson-to-take-over-from-Coipel-on-X-Men

#9 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4178 posts) - - Show Bio

@thegreyoutcastx: man, that is pretty harsh.

Dodson is pretty cheesecakey, but he's still a good artist. He may not interest me as much as Coipel or Lopez, but he is really good.

#10 Posted by TheGreyOutcastX (2051 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler: I mean I understand why people may be disappointed by Dodson's art or the fact that he is now gonna be on rotation with Lopez art wise, but the level of hostility lobbed at the man was just....I was more amazed by that fact than by Coipel only on for 3 issues. Land and Liefeld I get, but Dodson doesn't deserve all the hate.

#11 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4178 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler: I mean I understand why people may be disappointed by Dodson's art or the fact that he is now gonna be on rotation with Lopez art wise, but the level of hostility lobbed at the man was just....I was more amazed by that fact than by Coipel only on for 3 issues. Land and Liefeld I get, but Dodson doesn't deserve all the hate.

No, he really doesn't.

As for Coipel, I'm actually not that surprised; I think Marvel knows he's an ace in the hole, so they probably want to be able to have him on more than one book, doing fill-ins for key issues (like Uncanny Avengers #5, which felt like it was coming from the same context as House of M because of his presence) and stuff like that. I do hope they bring him back at some point, though; he's probably my favorite right now.

#12 Posted by TheGreyOutcastX (2051 posts) - - Show Bio

@thegreyoutcastx said:

@oldnightcrawler: I mean I understand why people may be disappointed by Dodson's art or the fact that he is now gonna be on rotation with Lopez art wise, but the level of hostility lobbed at the man was just....I was more amazed by that fact than by Coipel only on for 3 issues. Land and Liefeld I get, but Dodson doesn't deserve all the hate.

No, he really doesn't.

As for Coipel, I'm actually not that surprised; I think Marvel knows he's an ace in the hole, so they probably want to be able to have him on more than one book, doing fill-ins for key issues (like Uncanny Avengers #5, which felt like it was coming from the same context as House of M because of his presence) and stuff like that. I do hope they bring him back at some point, though; he's probably my favorite right now.

Definitely agree with ya on Coipel. His art is so fantastic that Marvel isn't wrong for having him more around various titles. But that doesn't mean that I am not a little disappointed that he wasn't sticking around for more than 3 issues.

#13 Edited by Rickbarry (1743 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone think Brian Wood is losing his mind over this book? I noticed him freaking out early on about the backlash people (like they do with every book) had about the roster. Now he's logging on forums and getting into it with people. While it's hilarious that they've pushed him to this point...someone monitor this guy's blood pressure.

#14 Posted by TheGreyOutcastX (2051 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone think Brian Wood is losing his mind over this book? I noticed him freaking out early on about the backlash people (like they do with every book) had about the roster. Now he's logging on forums and getting into it with people. While it's hilarious that they've pushed him to this point...someone monitor this guy's blood pressure.

I am a tad worried. I think it's partly due all the negative comments (basically all the people saying they would drop it after Coipel's issues were done), but then again, the X-Boards on CBR are highly opinionated ( that's my nice way of putting it).

#15 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4178 posts) - - Show Bio

Definitely agree with ya on Coipel. His art is so fantastic that Marvel isn't wrong for having him more around various titles. But that doesn't mean that I am not a little disappointed that he wasn't sticking around for more than 3 issues.

Yeah, X-men is one of the books I'm most looking foreword to right now, so him being on it was a big plus.

But honestly, I'd check out any book that had Coipel as (even a fill-in) artist, so it probably is a lot smarter for them.

#16 Edited by Rickbarry (1743 posts) - - Show Bio

@rickbarry said:

Anyone think Brian Wood is losing his mind over this book? I noticed him freaking out early on about the backlash people (like they do with every book) had about the roster. Now he's logging on forums and getting into it with people. While it's hilarious that they've pushed him to this point...someone monitor this guy's blood pressure.

I am a tad worried. I think it's partly due all the negative comments (basically all the people saying they would drop it after Coipel's issues were done), but then again, the X-Boards on CBR are highly opinionated ( that's my nice way of putting it).

Oh, I'm sure it's all about the negative comments. It's human nature to focus on what's wrong instead of what's right, but I've never really seen anyone go out of their way to get into with folks on the forums anywhere. Pressure must be mounting.

And yeah. I've ran into a few people there. The Kitty Pryde group are especially annoying.

#17 Posted by TheGreyOutcastX (2051 posts) - - Show Bio

@thegreyoutcastx said:

Definitely agree with ya on Coipel. His art is so fantastic that Marvel isn't wrong for having him more around various titles. But that doesn't mean that I am not a little disappointed that he wasn't sticking around for more than 3 issues.

Yeah, X-men is one of the books I'm most looking foreword to right now, so him being on it was a big plus.

But honestly, I'd check out any book that had Coipel as (even a fill-in) artist, so it probably is a lot smarter for them.

As much as I like Coipel's work, I still would have get the book regardless of him being the opening arc artist. Wood's been killing it on Ultimate X-Men and his last X-Men run was pretty good.

#18 Posted by TheGreyOutcastX (2051 posts) - - Show Bio

@thegreyoutcastx said:
@rickbarry said:

Anyone think Brian Wood is losing his mind over this book? I noticed him freaking out early on about the backlash people (like they do with every book) had about the roster. Now he's logging on forums and getting into it with people. While it's hilarious that they've pushed him to this point...someone monitor this guy's blood pressure.

I am a tad worried. I think it's partly due all the negative comments (basically all the people saying they would drop it after Coipel's issues were done), but then again, the X-Boards on CBR are highly opinionated ( that's my nice way of putting it).

Oh, I'm sure it's all about the negative comments. It's human nature to focus on what's wrong instead of what's right, but I've never really seen anyone go out of their way to get into with folks on the forums anywhere. Pressure must be mounting.

And yeah. I've ran into a few people there. The Kitty Pryde group are especially annoying.

That was the best thing about Brian Wood. His willingness to talk with fans on the forums about his work. But that seems to also be a bad thing as he was so quick to get into it with fans. But Brian will get out of that unscathed.

I can't make myself make an account just cause I can't deal with all the hate that comes from those boards. Hence why I prefer Comicvine.

#19 Posted by Mercy_ (92257 posts) - - Show Bio

This makes me less excited :(

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#20 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4178 posts) - - Show Bio

@thegreyoutcastx: yeah, Wood's run on X-men last year was just so especially refreshing. They'd have to give him some pretty bad artists for me not to be pretty interested, and luckily, that's the opposite of what's happening.

#21 Posted by TheGreyOutcastX (2051 posts) - - Show Bio

@mercy_: I know, I know. Having Coipel long term would have been exciting, but things happen. Should still be a fun read. :)

@oldnightcrawler: Yep, only good things on the horizon for Wood's X-Men.

#22 Posted by Rickbarry (1743 posts) - - Show Bio

Thinking about Brian Wood angry makes my eyes rain.

#23 Posted by TheGreyOutcastX (2051 posts) - - Show Bio

@rickbarry said:

Thinking about Brian Wood angry makes my eyes rain.

#24 Posted by AgeofHurricane (7257 posts) - - Show Bio

(Late to the party, but still)

Lol. I can't with the exacerbated Dodson backlash. I mean i can, as quite a few people didn't take a liking to his work during Fraction's nightmare coupled with Land, but i still can't. I don't get it.

Maybe it's cause i'm actually a fan of his work--even wanted him to do some fill-in issues for last year's Adjectiveless as opposed to Boschi--or that i'm a Brian Wood proponent. It's all just been blown out of proportions. Sue me, but it's the "cheesecake objectification of his women" that appeals to me, i mean this isn't Liefield, Land, Bobillio or Cho (imo) who illustrate "unattractive" females, each time i've seen them anyways--it's Dodson.

Anywho, Lopez is the headliner after Coipel for which i'm MORE than grateful for, and of course, Brian Wood's writing with Dodson coming in for an arc towards the end of the year. Couldn't really ask for more tbh.

P.S. CBR forums never fail to remind me of why i could never willingly make an account with them. I'm too young to be suffering from chronic PTSD.

#25 Posted by AgeofHurricane (7257 posts) - - Show Bio

Also happy for Wood, taking a more respective approach to the fan/writer relation as opposed to some self-proclaimed "top" writers.

#26 Edited by Ultra_beleco (184 posts) - - Show Bio

@mercy_ said:

This makes me less excited :(

2. I had high hopes from this book!

#27 Posted by X_Seraphangelon (1 posts) - - Show Bio
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#32 Edited by papad1992 (6822 posts) - - Show Bio

I wish this book would bring Marrow back. She'd be soooooooo much fun to read.

Oooh... that'd be interesting!

#33 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4178 posts) - - Show Bio

@rickbarry said:

I wish this book would bring Marrow back. She'd be soooooooo much fun to read.

Oooh... that'd be interesting!

I'd love to see Marrow interacting with this crew, but it's a bit hard to imagine Storm including her.

but if Wood could come up with a good reason for her to be there, I'd love to see it..

#34 Posted by tomasmaclgh (123 posts) - - Show Bio

I wish this book would bring Marrow back. She'd be soooooooo much fun to read.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

Sucks that she was de-powered :(
Maybe she can be re-powered...

#35 Posted by papad1992 (6822 posts) - - Show Bio

@papad1992 said:

@rickbarry said:

I wish this book would bring Marrow back. She'd be soooooooo much fun to read.

Oooh... that'd be interesting!

I'd love to see Marrow interacting with this crew, but it's a bit hard to imagine Storm including her.

but if Wood could come up with a good reason for her to be there, I'd love to see it..

Maybe apart of the new Sisterhood!?

#36 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4178 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe apart of the new Sisterhood!?

New Sisterhood? is that a thing?

#37 Edited by papad1992 (6822 posts) - - Show Bio

@papad1992 said:

Maybe apart of the new Sisterhood!?

New Sisterhood? is that a thing?

Yeah, Lady Deathstrike is bringing a new Sisterhood of Evil Mutants with her.

(I've heard).

#38 Posted by poisonfleur (2926 posts) - - Show Bio

I guess this is good news...
I was ALL about Coipel, He was perfect! But Lopez can't do any wrong.. ever. His last run with Wood gave Storm a whole new dimension-- Making her more serious, mysterious, and gave her this element about her where you had to keep your eye on her because you didn't know what she was up to. unfortunately, I didn't care much for his Psylocke.
Dodson, is alright. He makes Storm look very regal and Queen-like. I don't exactly remember is version of Rogue or Psylocke.

#39 Posted by poisonfleur (2926 posts) - - Show Bio

@papad1992 said:

@rickbarry said:

I wish this book would bring Marrow back. She'd be soooooooo much fun to read.

Oooh... that'd be interesting!

I'd love to see Marrow interacting with this crew, but it's a bit hard to imagine Storm including her.

but if Wood could come up with a good reason for her to be there, I'd love to see it..

Yes--- I am all for Marrow being on Storm's team. It's been a long while since she ripped her heart out. LOL

#40 Posted by God_Spawn (37146 posts) - - Show Bio

@poisonfleur:

I don't exactly remember is version of Rogue or Psylocke.

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#41 Posted by lykopis (10756 posts) - - Show Bio

I just really hope Dodson doesn't go overboard and do full throttle cheesecake with the characters. Sexy and gorgeous are one thing, gratuitous poses and unzipped jackets to the navel is another. Still -- my hopes remain high.

And that cover is gorgeous. Catrina-inspiration FTW.

#42 Edited by SCORPIO_CASSADINE (707 posts) - - Show Bio

YAYYYYYYY!!! I LOVE DODSON!

#43 Posted by impossibilly (883 posts) - - Show Bio

I am all for Dodson drawing anything, especially X-Men.

#44 Edited by GonnaRain (752 posts) - - Show Bio

Dodson is awesome, just like Coipel. X-Men surely has quite a good creative team working on it. I just wish the same could be said about UXM, 'cause, even if I kind of like Bachalo's art, I prefer Coipel or Dodson way more.

#45 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio

Dodson is awesome, just like Coipel. X-Men surely has quite a good creative team working on it. I just wish the same could be said about UXM, 'cause, even if I kind of like Bachalo's art, I prefer Coipel or Dodson way more.

Not a fan of Bachalo. I find his art way too hard to decipher what's going on.

#46 Posted by Ellie_Knightfall (4818 posts) - - Show Bio

:(

#47 Edited by GonnaRain (752 posts) - - Show Bio

@john_valentine said:

@gonnarain said:

Dodson is awesome, just like Coipel. X-Men surely has quite a good creative team working on it. I just wish the same could be said about UXM, 'cause, even if I kind of like Bachalo's art, I prefer Coipel or Dodson way more.

Not a fan of Bachalo. I find his art way too hard to decipher what's going on.

Completely right, sometimes it's quite hard to understand what's going on. I'm not a complete fan either but I don't dislike it. His art could be described as "cute", "cartoonish", and UXM, even with the funny bits, is a more serious book, and the art does not fit it that well.

Some of the incredibly awesome panels present in the recent issues of UXM, like when Team Cyke teleported inside of S.H.I.E.L.D's helicarrier would've been way more epic if illustrated by the hands of Coipel, Dodson or Immonen.

Irving's art is certainly not cartoonish like Bachalo's, but his faces are weird as f..., and I really dislike it.

#48 Posted by tomasmaclgh (123 posts) - - Show Bio

Irving's art is certainly not cartoonish like Bachalo's, but his faces are weird as f..., and I really dislike it.

Irving's art for that story was the right choice. Limbo is weird as f.... Darkchild was excellent. In my opinion, the art was amazing.

Dodson's art, specially Psylocke, is great, no complains here.
There's something that throws me off in the way Lopez draws faces, and I don't know what is exactly.

#49 Edited by GonnaRain (752 posts) - - Show Bio

@tomasmaclgh said:
@gonnarain said:

Irving's art is certainly not cartoonish like Bachalo's, but his faces are weird as f..., and I really dislike it.

Irving's art for that story was the right choice. Limbo is weird as f.... Darkchild was excellent. In my opinion, the art was amazing.

Dodson's art, specially Psylocke, is great, no complains here.

There's something that throws me off in the way Lopez draws faces, and I don't know what is exactly.

I agree that his art somewhat suited the Limbo's arc. The overall scenery was quite good, and agreed that Darkchilde looked amazing. But the problem I've with the faces is not just that they seemed weird, but simply awful. The expressions were horrible for the most part, his Emma looked like an old woman, he did her hair like a helmet, and overall I just didn't like his take on the Uncanny team.

His Dormmamu was ok.