#1 Posted by time (5004 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Jean Grey(Pheonix) 2. Apocalypse 3.Stryfe 4. Professor X 5. Magneto 6. Iceman 7. Storm 8. Rachel Grey with the Pheonix force. 9 X-Man (fully- powered) 10. Legion 11. Emperoer Vulvcan 12. Mr Sinister 13. Onslaught 14. Cassandra Nova 15. Scarlet Witch 16 Cable( fully powered)

From this list, would these be the most powerful X-Men characters. Out of these characters, who do you think will be in the top 10.

#2 Posted by Backflip (2266 posts) - - Show Bio

If I was to order it.

1. Phoenix (Jean Grey)
2. X-Man (Shaman)
3. Legion
4. Onslaught
5. Apocalypse
6. Rachel Grey (Phoenix Force)
7. Cable (Full Power)
8. Magneto
9. Cassandra Nova
10. Iceman

Stryfe, Storm, Vulcan, Scarlet Witch, Mr. Sinister and Professor X don't make the cut. Unless of course it's House of M Wanda...

#3 Posted by time (5004 posts) - - Show Bio

@backflip said:

If I was to order it.

1. Phoenix (Jean Grey)

2. X-Man (Shaman)

3. Legion

4. Onslaught

5. Apocalypse

6. Rachel Grey (Phoenix Force)

7. Cable (Full Power)

8. Magneto

9. Cassandra Nova

10. Iceman

Stryfe, Storm, Vulcan, Scarlet Witch, Mr. Sinister and Professor X don't make the cut. Unless of course it's House of M Wanda...

Suprised Charles is not in the top 10.

#4 Posted by CheeseSticks (2476 posts) - - Show Bio

@backflip said:

If I was to order it.

1. Phoenix (Jean Grey)

2. X-Man (Shaman)

3. Legion

4. Onslaught

5. Apocalypse

6. Rachel Grey (Phoenix Force)

7. Cable (Full Power)

8. Magneto

9. Cassandra Nova

10. Iceman

Stryfe, Storm, Vulcan, Scarlet Witch, Mr. Sinister and Professor X don't make the cut. Unless of course it's House of M Wanda...

Apocalypse should not be there. Magneto solo him. I'd put Prof X at 10 and everyone else inferior to Apocalypse advance one spot.

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#6 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio

Franklin Richards and Mad Jim Jaspers are more powerful than the rest of that list combined.

#7 Posted by Edamame (28160 posts) - - Show Bio

@time: You should have also included Hyperstorm in that list. He's definitely up there. :)

#8 Posted by chiq (1965 posts) - - Show Bio

@backflip said:

If I was to order it.

1. Phoenix (Jean Grey)

2. X-Man (Shaman)

3. Legion

4. Onslaught

5. Apocalypse

6. Rachel Grey (Phoenix Force)

7. Cable (Full Power)

8. Magneto

9. Cassandra Nova

10. Iceman

Stryfe, Storm, Vulcan, Scarlet Witch, Mr. Sinister and Professor X don't make the cut. Unless of course it's House of M Wanda...

Why is Magneto there? I can think so several powerhouses who have more raw power. Colossonaut, Warlock, Magik, Vulcan, Hope, Darwin, etc...Iceman, Cable and Apoc are also debatable (they are up there for sure though)

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#10 Posted by Backflip (2266 posts) - - Show Bio

@time: Charles, whilst a formidable telepath is inferior to the large majority of Telepaths from your list. Jean and Rachel are hardly surprising, X-Man already decimated him and even Cassandra proved that she could best him.

@backflip said:

Apocalypse should not be there. Magneto solo him. I'd put Prof X at 10 and everyone else inferior to Apocalypse advance one spot.

Uh... No? Magneto and Apocalypse have never faced one another in the 616 universe. Let's not confuse AoA with the Mainstream Reality.

616 Apoc is definitely superior to Magneto. That guy is a beast, tanked the combined powers of X-Factor and the Inhuman's whilst laughing.

@chiq said:

@backflip said:

Why is Magneto there? I can think so several powerhouses who have more raw power. Colossonaut, Warlock, Magik, Vulcan, Hope, Darwin, etc...Iceman, Cable and Apoc are also debatable (they are up there for sure though)

Magneto is a team buster. Don't underestimate him. Moreover, Colossusnaut, Warlock, Magik, Hope, Darwin were not on Time's original list. Additionally, Vulcan is not more powerful than Magneto. Iceman is not debatable (Points to latest arc of Astonishing). Cable isn't either (Guy went head to head with the Silver Surfer) and Apocalypse is really not getting the credit he deserved.

#11 Posted by adamTRMM (1779 posts) - - Show Bio

Both Magneto and Apocalypse have become jobbers which is a shame... Hell, X-writers always downplay their villains, I'm not even talking about the X-men themselves.

#12 Posted by Baberaham_Lincoln (936 posts) - - Show Bio

Gotta love Iceman being in that list. He's literally the most chilled and restrained warrior out of all of them, yet he still is considered a major powerhouse... snowballs will always be his go to technique and that's why i love his character. Really wish that outside of Astonishing, Iceman will get his due in say, Jason Aaron's upcoming Amazing X-men ongoing, and maybe have an arc centred around him because within that team (the upcoming Amazing X-men team), it seems like he's the 'hulk' of the team or an important figure so to speak.

#13 Edited by time (5004 posts) - - Show Bio

Here is mine list

1. Phoenix (Jean Grey)

2.Rachel Grey (Phoenix Force)

3. Onslaught

4. X-Man (Fully powered)

5. Apocalypse

6. Legion/Scarlet Witch

7. Magneto

8. Cable (fully Powered)

9. Cassandra Nova/Professor X

10. Iceman/Storm

#14 Edited by AgeofHurricane (7297 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto isn't that powerful.

#15 Posted by time (5004 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto isn't that powerful.

What would your list look like.

#16 Posted by lykopis (10746 posts) - - Show Bio

Legion

Rogue

#17 Edited by Rickbarry (1784 posts) - - Show Bio

Folks always forget about Proteus. Mikhail Rasuptin was powerful as well.

#18 Posted by Powerzone789 (430 posts) - - Show Bio

1. X-man. ( nate gray) before his depowerment nate was officially stated as being the most powerful mutant of his time. now he can barely lift a couple blocks with his mind but there's that

2. Phoenix (jean grey) as much as i find her repeated deaths annoying, you can't get much better then the original phoenix, jean grey.

3.Legion. lets face it if david haller got his insanse mind together and had full control over all the powers in his system, he could overload ANYBODY and could most easily be one of the most powerful mutants in existence, lets not forget in the recent x-men legacy line, he has a reality warper in there somewhere, again you can't get much better then that

4. franklin richards: he took down a damn celestial nuff said

5. apocalypse: he's taken down team after team after team and has always been a powerhouse. even though he hasn't been in a major story for awhile, it would be interesting how he compares to what he used to be now.

6.Onslaught: the combined powers of magneto, xavier, franklin richards AND nate gray....too bad he didn't last long.

7.Magneto. any mutant that has full control over an element hould be considered formidable and back before he was "broken" magneto was a tough contender.

8. Storm. she has control over the elements and although her status as an omega level has been debated, she's always been a powerhouse

9.Collousunaut: honestly, i thought it was interesting when peter got the gem. it changed his character, and just added more power to one of the x-men's strongest. it would have been interesting to see him at his absolute limits..put him up against a World war hulk era hulk and see what happens

10. Iceman. this recent arc in astonishing really shows what bobby can do. even though he's in his own emo world right now. i walways wondered what would happen when he reached his full potential..now we know

#19 Edited by Powerzone789 (430 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto isn't that powerful.

if controlling magnetism isn't powerful then idk what is

#20 Posted by DecoyElite (4019 posts) - - Show Bio

@ageofhurricane said:

Magneto isn't that powerful.

if controlling magnetism isn't powerful then idk what is

Reality warping.

#21 Posted by Powerzone789 (430 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerzone789 said:

@ageofhurricane said:

Magneto isn't that powerful.

if controlling magnetism isn't powerful then idk what is

Reality warping.

i know that, view my above post, i was being sarcastic

#22 Posted by DecoyElite (4019 posts) - - Show Bio
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#25 Posted by kasino (1785 posts) - - Show Bio

Legion, happy he isn't used not a fan

Franklin

Jean

Hope, hate we have Jean

Rachel, have Jean already

Wanda

Mister M

Vulcan, highly underrated

Kid Omega

Elixir

Bobby

#26 Posted by Powerzone789 (430 posts) - - Show Bio

@kasino said:

Legion, happy he isn't used not a fan

Franklin

Jean

Hope, hate we have Jean

Rachel, have Jean already

Wanda

Mister M

Vulcan, highly underrated

Kid Omega

Elixir

Bobby

dang! forgot about mr. m. he was awesome! didn't last long though...hope's only power right now is mimicry, same as mimic, far from being a top contender i'd replace her with synch..the scope of kid omega's powers have always changed from writer to writer, Vulcan was an omega but he got taken down by havok. then again he did take on the entire imperial guard by himself...

#27 Posted by Squares (6569 posts) - - Show Bio
@time said:

1. Jean Grey(Pheonix) 2. Apocalypse 3.Stryfe 4. Professor X 5. Magneto 6. Iceman 7. Storm 8. Rachel Grey with the Pheonix force. 9 X-Man (fully- powered) 10. Legion 11. Emperoer Vulvcan 12. Mr Sinister 13. Onslaught 14. Cassandra Nova 15. Scarlet Witch 16 Cable( fully powered)

From this list, would these be the most powerful X-Men characters. Out of these characters, who do you think will be in the top 10.

No.

Jesus, you haven't even given us criteria by which to judge power. Are you referring to destructive power? Who can do the most? Who can use their powers for the longest? Power isn't a matter of mere strength or potential, it's also a matter of skill. Are we taking skill into account here?

...and for the record Rachel isn't that powerful. For someone who's supposed to have the same amount of power as Jean Grey, it's utterly pathetic she was beaten in a psychic showdown by Emma Frost. And if by powerful you mean influential and whatnot then yes, Mr. Sinister belongs on that list, but otherwise putting him up there is ridiculous. Cable's powers aren't even consistent, how the hell do we know how powerful he actually is when we aren't shown reliably what he can do? There are many x-men characters that are more powerful than Magneto (hell, DAZZLER is more powerful than Magneto), Storm is powerful but not in the top 10, same goes for the Scarlet Witch.

In no particular order: Quentin Quire, Mr. M, Jean Grey, X-man, Franklin Richards, Legion, Iceman, Vulcan, Hope Summers, Elixir.

#28 Edited by MarlboroMan (1625 posts) - - Show Bio

1- Mad Jim Jaspers

2- Franklin Richards

3- Phoenix (if white crown then she is the first)

4- Jamie Braddock

5- Scarlet Witch

6- X-man Shaman

7- Legion

8- Hope Summers

9- Hyperstorm ( iam not sure about his rank

10- Onslaught

11- Proteus

12- Mr. M

13- Cable(without T.O virus

and for one tier lower guys,

Quentin Quire,Iceman,Vulcan,Magneto,Professor X,Elixir,Rachel Grey

This list just made me realize that mutants are the most powerful race and community in Marvel Universe just right after the Celestials

#29 Posted by adamTRMM (1779 posts) - - Show Bio

@squares said:

hell, DAZZLER is more powerful than Magneto

Nonsense, if he is at full force not many can stop him. But his powers never remain on the same level, from taking two nukes without a force-field to being injured by an arrow. What can I say, X-writers cannot handle powerhouses, that's why they tend to downplay them. And Magneto is the most notable victim of this bullsh*t (electromagnetic spectrum anybody?!)

#30 Posted by Squares (6569 posts) - - Show Bio

@adamtrmm: Dazzler can transmute sound into a wide variety of light. She is also a young, healthy individual at the peak of her skills, while Magneto is old. At the very least they're equals.

#31 Edited by Squares (6569 posts) - - Show Bio

1- Mad Jim Jaspers

2- Franklin Richards

3- Phoenix (if white crown then she is the first)

4- Jamie Braddock

5- Scarlet Witch

6- X-man Shaman

7- Legion

8- Hope Summers

9- Onslaught

10- Proteus

11- Mr. M

12- Cable(without T.O virus

and for one tier lower guys,

Quentin Quire,Iceman,Vulcan,Magneto,Professor X,Elixir,Rachel Grey

This list just made me realize that mutants are the most powerful race and community in Marvel Universe just right after the Celestials

Well, there's a hell of a lot of mutants in the Marvel Universe, so...

#32 Posted by martinceld (585 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Jean with phoenix

2. Rachel with phoenix

3. Shaman Nate/x-man

4-5. legion/onslaught

6. Vulcan

7. Cable full power

8. Wanda

9-10. Cassandra Nova/Prof X

#33 Posted by Stormcell (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

1) Onslaught (mostly because he had the power of Franklin along with many other characters)

2) Mad Jim Jaspers

3) Proteus (If he is not devalued)

4) Storm (She has some very scary power showings that earn her this spot)

5) Sienna Blaze (The raw power she had when she first debuted earns her this spot though she is able to be beaten by weaker characters since she's basically just a blaster and teleporter. She was probably weakened by writers as time went on, but the original presentation of the character definitely earns her this spot.)

6) Shadow King (He can keep growing more and more powerful by absorbing negative emotions from the world)

7&8) Legion and X-Man (Can't figure out the order)

9) Xavier

10) Apocalypse (According to his original showings in X-Factor, he became watered down after that)

If Rachel or Jean Grey have the PF, then they make the cut. Magneto is powerful, but doesn't have the power showings to compete with the guys on the list. I thought about putting Selene on the list, but opted to leave her off till she gets better power showings. X-Man would not have made the list except for his showings as Shaman X-Man. Other than that, it was nothing but rhetoric with Nate Grey's powers, but he was shown being much weaker than he was stated to be and always coming near death with power showings that would have placed him below a fully powered Exodus.

#34 Posted by tensor (4351 posts) - - Show Bio

why put jean grey phoenix. if so why not put cyclops and anybody else who can become one with the phoenix, without it she is not that powerful.

#35 Edited by martinceld (585 posts) - - Show Bio

@tensor: because it was said that Jean IS the phoenix, they are one. but whatever take it how you will lol

#36 Edited by angelalfonso (1030 posts) - - Show Bio

Franklin is the most powerful mutant, but he is not an x-man but his adult self is far more powerful than any of them could ever wish to be, he resurrected galactus, we can alter reality to suits his needs, he can read minds, project energy, create matter, create universes, and a long etc. O yes and it was implied that he will become immortal at some point. In a few words he is (will be) a god.