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#1 Edited by Pokeysteve (8686 posts) - - Show Bio

#2 Edited by Pokeysteve (8686 posts) - - Show Bio

I had a few small issues with it but over all I think they did a great job and it gives me hope.

This four and a half minute short film had better fight scenes that all 3 Batman movies hahahahahahahahaha!!!!

#3 Edited by Kal'smahboi (3567 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow, that was great! I was a little put off by the lead actress at the beginning, but the fight made up for that. She was fast when she needed to be, but she mostly delivered hard, calculated hits, which is what I would expect from WW.

All in all, great short.

#4 Posted by lilben42 (2606 posts) - - Show Bio

@pokeysteve: Yeah the fight scenes were great. Especially when she blocked that bullet.

#5 Posted by Pokeysteve (8686 posts) - - Show Bio

$10 G-Man puts this video on the main page by the end of the week and this thread dies.

#6 Posted by lykopis (10746 posts) - - Show Bio

Took her long enough to get involved -- poor guy got the shots pretty bad before she stepped in. I do think the actress was really good -- her movements were believable, of course they sped up the film to assist with the efficiency part of it but all in all -- pretty good.

If anything (not taking away from the actress) the stunt guys were amazing! The last one (not the boss) was particularly noteworthy.

#7 Edited by PowerWoman (3576 posts) - - Show Bio

Really cant see...

#8 Edited by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@pokeysteve: the only thing that they should change is the guy hitting her,he should break his hand,we know that cartoon and movie versions of the characters are always way weaker,but she should not be hurt by a human punch not even in movies.

#9 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@kal_smahboi: the only thing that they should change is the guy hitting her,he should break his hand,we know that cartoon and movie versions of the characters are always way weaker,but she should not be hurt by a human punch not even in movies.

#10 Posted by Kal'smahboi (3567 posts) - - Show Bio

@pokeysteve: the only thing that they should change is the guy hitting her,he should break his hand,we know that cartoon and movie versions of the characters are always way weaker,but she should not be hurt by a human punch not even in movies.

Maybe she moved so that he wouldn't break his hand haha.

#11 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio
#12 Posted by PowerWoman (3576 posts) - - Show Bio
#13 Posted by Kal'smahboi (3567 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior: ...I know. She got hit, but she moved her head with it to lessen the blow to his hand.

I'm just making an excuse as a joke for the filmmakers haha.

#14 Posted by FearlessWolverine (5 posts) - - Show Bio

$10 G-Man puts this video on the main page by the end of the week and this thread dies.

I accept that bet. I take paypal. :)

#15 Edited by Alak (928 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow, the choreography was really impressive. Considering it's Wonder Woman and all, I think she went easy on them lol.

#16 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerwoman: a short film of diana fightimg some men,one hit her,and i said that in the film she shouldn't be watered down to a point where a human could hurt her.

#17 Posted by PowerWoman (3576 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior: Is a cool video,right?lol

sometime you isnt need hope too much..wonder woman always has street level,not news

#18 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio
#19 Posted by PowerWoman (3576 posts) - - Show Bio
#20 Posted by The Stegman (26051 posts) - - Show Bio

"One woman fended off 88 crazed killers"....Kill Bill?

#21 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_stegman: you can beat that wonder woman has done things like that and much bigger feats way before kill bill,wonder woman is the original action female,she started in 1941,everything that xena,bill or buffy have done,wonder woman did it first and much more.

#22 Posted by The Stegman (26051 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_stegman: you can beat that wonder woman has done things like that and much bigger feats way before kill bill,wonder woman is the original action female,she started in 1941,everything that xena,bill or buffy have done,wonder woman did it first and much more.

Um...okay..but they said they were watching a movie, I was just wondering if that movie was Kill Bill since there's not too many films that has a woman taking on 88 guys.....outside of porn anyway. ;)

#23 Posted by Pokeysteve (8686 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_stegman: Totally Kill Bill!

@pokeysteve: the only thing that they should change is the guy hitting her,he should break his hand,we know that cartoon and movie versions of the characters are always way weaker,but she should not be hurt by a human punch not even in movies.

I didn't have a problem with him not hurting his hand. I had a problem with him hitting her at all.

#24 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_stegman: Totally Kill Bill!

@gokuwarrior said:

@pokeysteve: the only thing that they should change is the guy hitting her,he should break his hand,we know that cartoon and movie versions of the characters are always way weaker,but she should not be hurt by a human punch not even in movies.

I didn't have a problem with him not hurting his hand. I had a problem with him hitting her at all.

and i had a problem with him hitting her and hurting her.

#25 Edited by PowerWoman (3576 posts) - - Show Bio
#26 Edited by PowerWoman (3576 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm watch this video

I'm sure,take wonder woman super-power,that would be a better idea than before,at least when batman vs wonder woman or katana vs wonder woman would be no any sillys,and nobody complain wonder woman strength speed feats is poor

Good video

#27 Posted by Pokeysteve (8686 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior: Lol that too.

@powerwoman: Too true. I enjoyed the video for what it is though. That was some awesome fighting. Exactly how she should be in live action.

#28 Posted by Veshark (9058 posts) - - Show Bio

Not bad, very impressive for a short film.

#29 Posted by PowerWoman (3576 posts) - - Show Bio

@pokeysteve: Yes,look like wonder woman no power is a good idea

at least that can highlight her fighting skills ,Anyway writer always forgot wonder woman strength and speed in fight,not once,that happen many times,if so,why not just take her power?take her power,writer would be do not need to think about the laborious how wonder woman use her strength and speed in battle,and wonder woman vs katana would be a good match up,We do not need complain it,and we also dont care high level feats anymore

that pretty good idea

#30 Edited by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

she looks too dopey, cutsie american bimbo

#31 Posted by Pokeysteve (8686 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerwoman: I don't think they took her powers away exactly. You figure it was a short film with a low budget. They couldn't highlight her strength or great speed with the money they had so they focused on her fighting skill. She does deflect the bullet after it's fired and moves from behind the guy to in front of him.

#32 Edited by PowerWoman (3576 posts) - - Show Bio

@pokeysteve: Really,I'm just say most of time DC writer just "forgot"wonder woman strength and speed,that was too bad

That not funny,they are real did it in 1968s

#33 Posted by TAneT62 (1071 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow, this was amazing! Blimmen hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#34 Edited by WDW (1520 posts) - - Show Bio
@gokuwarrior said:

@pokeysteve said:

@the_stegman: Totally Kill Bill!

@gokuwarrior said:

@pokeysteve: the only thing that they should change is the guy hitting her,he should break his hand,we know that cartoon and movie versions of the characters are always way weaker,but she should not be hurt by a human punch not even in movies.

I didn't have a problem with him not hurting his hand. I had a problem with him hitting her at all.

and i had a problem with him hitting her and hurting her.

Goku You been singing the same song about Wonder Woman for like a year now. Wonder Woman is not superman! she is not a Kryptonian!

She is a warrior and her tactics reflect that.

Wonder Woman is warrior she can engage in combat from a wide range of opponents from Street Level to Superman level and beyond. Her physiology and training allows her to do this. She is the perfect warrior and an amazon she enjoys fighting and competition. That is who she is.

Superman on the other hand is restricted to beings able to take is punches. His physiology does not allow him to actively fight street level beings the way Wonder Woman can so he always uses less combative ways to apprehend Street Levelers when he comes around them. Superman is a pacifist not a warrior he is not normally competitive so he uses his strength to end things quickly.

If Wonder Woman was as invulnerable as superman is then she could never have learned to fight as effectively as she does.

Warriors need to feel pain to learn from their mistakes. That is essential to mastering any martial art. And that’s why superman can never learn how to fight as good as Wonder Woman because he is essentially invulnerable and does not feel pain. Notice how superman always stands there ready to absorb a hit and Wonder Woman does not no matter who is attacking her whether street level or Superhuman pre and post 52? Without the fear of pain and injury one cannot truly become a great warrior

Also in hand to hand fighting taking blows from your opponent is also an established fighting technique. It’s called the sacrificial hit. A fighter allows him/herself to be hit if it will allow him/her to get some sort of tactial advantage usually better positioning. It happens all the time in Hand to Hand but not so much in weapons fighting because Weapons are way more lethal than hand to hand.

Now as far as the Video goes, Wonder Woman was completely uninjured from the hit. And honestly the fact that she did not go down from a hit square on the jaw should have been enough to convince the Thugs she should not be MESSED WITH. Did you catch the look on their faces when she did not go down?

I honestly think you and a few others totally miss the point of Wonder Woman. She is not invulnerable the way superman it. Even if you go and reread every PRE-52 Wonder Woman comic you would realize that an ordinary person hitting her would not result in them getting a shattered hand. Wonder Woman is pretty much immune to being knocked out but she FEELS the pain of every HIT and her body reaction will be the same as anyone else getting hit but unlike everyone else she is virtually immune to being knocked out or stunned by any attack. Thats her ability..... Its not superman invulnerability It’s always been that way.

#35 Posted by PowerWoman (3576 posts) - - Show Bio

@wdw: I cant belive for a long time ago you still dont know what he say it:

Of course,wonder woman not superman,she isnt invulnerable,but how many time wonder woman can withstand superman hit and even h-bomb?superman can hurt her is very logical,but please,how can NORMAL man hurt her?Pre-52 wonder woman not like Pre-crisis wonder woman ,who got KO by normal man many times,though ,yes,wonder woman has low showing not news,but who can moving the earth and faster than light and tanking nearly-planet buster how can be GOT KO by normal man?even she feel hurt is very silly

#36 Posted by PowerWoman (3576 posts) - - Show Bio

@wdw: You just completely ignored her strength and speed, and reaction,you just like wonder woman was a skills warrior not a super-goddees,you points make wonder woman look like isnt have super-power

I dont know what's you feel,but I think you love wonder woman(no power)

#37 Edited by WDW (1520 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerwoman: No... I just understand Wonder Womans power. I understand why she can fight a simple Street Leveler as well as a Superman level being. I understand why its possible for a street leveler to tag her while a being as fast as superman misses.

It all makes sense to me.

The problem I have is that you and Goku simply assume she will use all her strength speed in every fight. All you see are her abilities and what she is capable of. But you totally miss the point of the characters personality and how she goes about doing things. Instead you want to see her lift heavy objects fly really fast and do the same thinks superman does because you think thats the kind of stuff that makes her powerful. You want a list of recognizable feats from her so you can directly compare her with Superman. You want it all spelled out. Well... thats never going to happen her abilities not measurable or definable.

This is Wonder Woman............"Wonder" Woman

Wonder; Definition

One that arouses awe, astonishment, surprise, or admiration; a marvel:

The emotion aroused by something awe-inspiring, astounding, or marvelous:

An event inexplicable by the laws of nature; a miracle.

Not Superman "SUPER" Man

Super; Definition

Of the highest degree, power, etc

Of an extreme or excessive degree

Very good; first-rate; excellent.

Very; extremely or excessively:

#38 Edited by PowerWoman (3576 posts) - - Show Bio

@wdw: Here is marston's wonder woman,first of wonder woman

You must be read this

wonder woman never only have "skills",she has strength,speed,that even beyond a lot of strong charater like hulk,he never move the sun,wonder woman did it,tell me you know what is true wonder woman?you dont know

Marston had this to say about the character in 1943:

"Not even girls want to be girls so long as our feminine archetype lacks force, strength, and power. Not wanting to be girls, they don't want to be tender, submissive, peace-loving as good women are. Women' s strong qualities have become despised because of their weakness. The obvious remedy is to create a feminine character with all the strength of Superman plus all the allure of a good and beautiful woman."

#39 Edited by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@wdw: look,she may hold back against street level characters,hold back her strength and speed,but she can't hold back her durability,it's stated and showed in 90% of her showings,that she has super durability,that she only has a vulnerability against piercing weapons,but she is super duirable against everything else,that's the only reason why she can take a nukle unharmed and take hits from superman,if hits from humans could hurt her that would mean she has normal durability and not just a weakness against piercing weapons,and if she had normal durability against everything she wouldn't be able to take a nuke and hits from superman,she wouldn't even have super strength because she would just break her bones by hitting a wall,so yes they need to remember that even if she holds back,she has super durability against everything except piercing weapons,and if they don't respect that,they are contradicting her power,because she couldn't even have super strength without having a high level of durability to hit walls and asteroids without hurting herself,so i complain,because i'm actually the one that understands her powers.

and i don't care about feats,i just think she should get better feats and should fight people in her league instead of making her fight street level character that she can own like katana and hawkman.

and talking about power level,marston,wonder woman's creator said he wanted her to be very powerful like superman,in the scan above,you can see original wonder woman moving the moon and the sun,i'm not saying she should do that,but it proves that she was alsways meant to be very powerful,since day one.

#40 Posted by dmessmer (368 posts) - - Show Bio

If Wonder Woman is invulnerable then what is the point of the bracelets? I've always found it way more compelling that she can be hurt if someone is actually able to get to her, but that her reflexes prevent that. When a character can't be hurt their fights lack drama.

Also, can everyone just relax - this was a 4 minute low-budget film that someone did for fun. I enjoyed it for what it was, in the same way I enjoyed this one:

http://io9.com/5987273/this-wonder-woman-movie-trailer-is-too-good-to-be-true-literally

#41 Posted by lilben42 (2606 posts) - - Show Bio
#42 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (35128 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman shouldn't have an American accent

#43 Edited by WDW (1520 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerwoman: Yes I have read that book as well as every other Wonder Woman comic. I know this is exactly the kind of nonsense you and goku want to see just to prove she is as strong as superman and the hulk.

You take one quote from 1943 and are trying to apply it as a blanket rule for Wonder Woman without truly understanding the meaning of word "strength".

You a assume Marston was referring to only physical strength and yet the there are aspects to Wonder Woman's raw physical as Marston created her which are still clearly not on par with superman.

Like the fact that she needs a lasso, a plane, her bracers ETC while superman can simply do it all on his own.

Seeing Wonder Woman lasso the sun and move it around was GREAT for 1940's as a direct comparison to Superman for "little girls" of that era to read. I am sure it was great at the time. But honesty as an adult Woman I can tell you. Strength and Power is not always manifest in a physical sense.

The difference you and have is:

For me taking into account all the different aspects of strength and power there is. physical and none physical. Superman and Wonder Woman are quite evenly matched as intended by Marston

You seem to think physical strength and speed measured by comicbook feats and compared to other characters is a way to guage how powerful a character is.

I simply do not agree with that.

Neither do any of the Wonder Woman writers for the past 70+ years.

#44 Posted by OminousFlare (93 posts) - - Show Bio

This needs to stop being a fan film and actually happen.

And Nolan, you... Sigh. You're just never gonna let it happen, huh? A Justice film.

#45 Edited by WDW (1520 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior: @powerwoman:

I forgot to add that

It seems that both of you want writers of Wonder Woman to go back and read superman comics so they can study his FEATS just to make Wonder Woman have similar

or compatible ones I would hate a comic like that.... One based on how powerful superman is at the time.

If there was no such thing as Superman then Wonder Woman's feats would be perfectly accepted by both of you. Everything is relative

Why don't you petition DC Comics to stop make superman do ridiculous things like bench pressing planets and living inside a neutron star... rather than come on the Wonder Woman forums expecting Wonder Woman writers to base her FEATs around what Superman did the previous week just to make you happy.

Marston would not have done it that way

Wonder Woman is Wonder Woman Superman is Superman.

#46 Edited by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@wdw: she has weapons because she is a warrior it has nothing to do with being inferior to superman,she had a plane because she couldn't fly like superman couldn't fly either in his eraly days.

and why don't you understand that you can't have super durability and be hurt by a human?,did i say i want wonder woman to move a planet?,NO,i said i want the writters to be consistent with the abilities she is supposed to have,the topic is simple my friend,if she can take a nuke and hits from superman like she does 90% of the time,then you can't show me an issue where a human hurt her and tell me that both feats are equally valid,ok?,she has super durability or she hasn't,one thing is that she has a weakness(piercing weapons),that's why she has the bracelets,fine,that's her weakness,but she is supposed to be super durable against everything else,that's how they explain that she can take hits from superman or energy attacks from gods,so make up your mind ok?,if you want her durability to be low enough for street level characters to hurt her then she can not have the level of super strength of a 100 tonner either because that level of strength and super durability go hand to hand,otherwise she would break her hand hitting a wall for example,because she has super strength but not durability to take the damage,and she would not have super speed either because with normal durability her body won't be able to take it,that's my point,writters and all of you should be consistent about her capabilities,what are they,and stick to them,so what do you want?,do you want her to be super durable to be able to fight super powered beings,but keeping her vulnerability against piercing weapons,or do you want her to have normal durability and be an street level character,so humans can hurt her?,what do you want?,it can't be both ways,so make up your mind.

#47 Posted by PowerWoman (3576 posts) - - Show Bio

@wdw: I'm sorry?

Even wonder woman move the sun you say that not best strength?what are you talking about?what the hell?did you know in the comic book how many charater REAL move a sun in page?!

Only superman and shazam!even supergirl,a Physical Properties of girl even NEVER do it!even i'm a SUPER-supergirl fans,I can say that based on facts,wonder woman is more like superman than supergirl

And,Excuse me?did you not see "a feminine character with all the strength of Superman plus all the allure of a good and beautiful woman" that very clear wonder woman is as strong as superman in her originally created.she never just a skills woman,she was STRONG,a super-strong of goddess,as strong as superman but very beautiful,where show tell us she not part with superman in strength?you just beyond me

And,what the hell prove she is as strong as superman?even you are right,BUT ,prove wonder woman is superman strength level is not us,Is DC did it

see it?we are never try prove wonder woman is superman strength level,we are just hope DC keep up they are idea,give her great feats,because in the new 52 she isnt has great feats like superman,if you hate it?just hate DC

And.....Marston would not have done it that way

he let wonder woman moving the moon

he let wonder woman moving the sun,only GA shazam and Silver age superman real did it

he let wonder woman almost every issue has a great strength feats not like new 52

himself even say wonder woman has superman all of strength

Like I say,you just like a without super-power of wonder woman,like this

DC give her super-strength,because she at least very close to superman in strength

DC give her super-speed,because she almost as fast as superman,sometime even faster than superman

If you so such hate wonder woman strength and speed,dont call us,just call dc,to hate dc,not me,not other people

#48 Posted by Saren (25112 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, but what are her feats?!?

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#49 Edited by PowerWoman (3576 posts) - - Show Bio

@wdw: In the GA,superman cant fly,then wonder woman cant fly too

Wonder woman have superman all of strength but she not invulnerable,this is differnet,not because superman MUCH/FAR stronger than wonder woman,back GA,wonder woman even cant withstand h-bomb

but since post-crisis is happen,what is dc did it?yes,wonder woman easily withstand h-bomb and tanking neary-planet buster

Accept it,wonder woman never just a skills woman,she always super-powerful,you points just make wonder woman like Kung Fu Girl without any super-power!

just because GA wonder woman is not invulnerable isnt mean she not as strong as superman,yes,they are differnet,but different not mean wonder woman is weak,read GA wonder woman feats or post-crisis wonder woman,even post-crisis wonder woman is part with superman in strength,how can you so such hate it!?

#50 Edited by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizenbane: what are her feats?,read her comics,or didn't you know that she was always a powerhouse?.