Poll The Better Wonder Woman: DCAU or Animated New-52? (119 votes)
Which incarnation of this amazon was/is portrayed better?
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I like the look of DCAU much better, but I think the N52AU version has the potential to be amazing. DCAU (especially Timm-verse) version was always significantly nerfed, so far N52AU version doesn't seem to be ... I wish her role in ToA had been a bit more significant, but it's an AM movie so I need to get over myself :)
@csg_cl: The way the DCAU version was nerfed is laughable. The 2009 animated was nerfed too but at least she showed more bad-assery and had a better personality. I liked her in JLW even the look not that great but the way she was beating thise parademons and kicking Darkseid's butt was awesome.
The new Wonder Woman is not very well fleshed out yet but she seems a bit goofy and I'm not big on this new design though I've made peace with it. I like how powerful she is though. In JLU she was constantly losing but she had a strong, zesty personality which is how I like my Wonder Woman.
DCAU Wonder Woman is my choice of the two, even though her and John Stewart were the two most underwhelming members of the core JL on that show. John was just boring and in the case of Diana, if you didn't know much about Wonder Woman going into the DCAU, I don't think you learned that much more about her. Wonder Woman really needed to be the more focused (in terms of development) of the trinity because she didn't have her own show to define her character, but Diana really didn't do anything interesting. When you look at the audiences perception of Wonder Woman in that series, what ultimately stuck out in everyone's mind was BMxWW, and when you consider how little there was to that 'romance' and how Batman was essentially Bruce Timm's self-insertion character for the show, that is an indictment on her portrayal. There were some positives, from a personality standpoint, she was written well and Susan Eisenberg did a fantastic job with her voice. Overall though, DCAU Wonder Woman was disappointing, Shayera was the better character of the two.
In terms of Animated-52 Wonder Woman, the only good thing about her is that she does some badass things but that's really it and I need more than feats to get engaged in a characterization. She's poorly developed (which is actually a problem for all of the JL members save Cyborg) and the romance with Superman is rushed. Big, power-couple romances are much better served being developed in a weekly format rather than in a movie, unless that film is singularly devoted to building that romance. I still think she has potential here, but Wonder Woman along with most of the characters in the JL need more focus.
Honestly, I don't really care for any of the JL Animated-52 characters save for Cyborg and Mera.
@youknowwhattodo: I'm actually surprised that you actually care for Cyborg lol.
@youknowwhattodo: I'm actually surprised that you actually care for Cyborg lol.
I didn't think I would either because he's not exactly the most engaging character, but he was the only character that I identified with in JL:War because he was one of the few rational minds in that sea of buffoonery and after pushing myself through Throne of Atlantis, I kinda felt bad for the guy. Not just because he is half-man, half machine, but he also has to work with this incarnation of the Justice League.
Her relationship with Superman's worse, I don't really know what to make out of that restaurant scene but to me Wonder Woman comes across like the credulous alien girlfriend that didn't really grasp what was going on. Similar situations have taken place in sm/ww and Lobdell Superman's run.
Her relationship with Superman's worse, I don't really know what to make out of that restaurant scene but to me Wonder Woman comes across like the credulous alien girlfriend that didn't really grasp what was going on. Similar situations have taken place in sm/ww and Lobdell Superman's run.
I hate both and prefer the trinity not to date each other. I enjoyed her romance with Steve Trevor though in the WW2 episode of Justice League and the 2009 movie
I hate both and prefer the trinity not to date each other. I enjoyed her romance with Steve Trevor though in the WW2 episode of Justice League and the 2009 movie
For me Steve was too old for Wonder Woman, I'm a bit sick of old men getting young girls whereas women's tits turn to raisins. I also didn't like that she eventually embraced traditional female roles like going shopping, wearing heels and having to have doors open for you like you can't open them yourself.
I hate both and prefer the trinity not to date each other. I enjoyed her romance with Steve Trevor though in the WW2 episode of Justice League and the 2009 movie
For me Steve was too old for Wonder Woman, I'm a bit sick of old men getting young girls whereas women's tits turn to raisins. I also didn't like that she eventually embraced traditional female roles like going shopping, wearing heels and having to have doors open for you like you can't open them yourself.
Isn't Wonder Woman like 23?
DCAU for me. I couldn't care less for her Animated-52 counterpart.
@foamborn: You mentioning the doors thing made me remember Diana and Steve's chat near the end of her animated feature..
I hate both and prefer the trinity not to date each other. I enjoyed her romance with Steve Trevor though in the WW2 episode of Justice League and the 2009 movie
For me Steve was too old for Wonder Woman, I'm a bit sick of old men getting young girls whereas women's tits turn to raisins. I also didn't like that she eventually embraced traditional female roles like going shopping, wearing heels and having to have doors open for you like you can't open them yourself.
I will never understand why anyone has ever had a problem with this.
@foamborn: You mentioning the doors thing made me remember Diana and Steve's chat near the end of her animated feature..
I was actually talking about that scene. Diana felt so strongly against those customs but then just kind of adopted them.
I will never understand why anyone has ever had a problem with this.
Because chivalry is based upon the premise that women are the lesser sex (imo)
I open the door for everyone. And I ask people if things are heavy and if they need help, regardless of gender, because sometimes things look heavy and they seem like they need help.
If that's chivalry, then I suppose I'm just going to have to come up with a new word for doing those things.
Gonna call it..."Awesome." It's based on the premise that doing a good thing for someone is awesome. Would that make someone opening the door for you any better an act, if they said they were doing it to be "Awesome," instead of chivalry being the reason?
I open the door for everyone. And I ask people if things are heavy and if they need help, regardless of gender, because sometimes things look heavy and they seem like they need help.
If that's chivalry, then I suppose I'm just going to have to come up with a new word for doing those things.
Gonna call it..."Awesome." It's based on the premise that doing a good thing for someone is awesome. Would that make someone opening the door for you any better an act, if they said they were doing it to be "Awesome," instead of chivalry being the reason?
If you opened the door for me because my hands were busy and I was in need of help then that's just being helpful. Pulling chairs and opening doors for women is something else entirely. I don't think men should have to do it. But that's just my opinion.
@foamborn: You mentioning the doors thing made me remember Diana and Steve's chat near the end of her animated feature..
I was actually talking about that scene. Diana felt so strongly against those customs but then just kind of adopted them.
Yeah. I like how she was like "I lift weights Steve. I can open car doors." Or something like that then just decided to act like the way Steve asked her..
@foamborn: You mentioning the doors thing made me remember Diana and Steve's chat near the end of her animated feature..
I was actually talking about that scene. Diana felt so strongly against those customs but then just kind of adopted them.
Yeah. I like how she was like "I lift weights Steve. I can open car doors." Or something like that then just decided to act like the way Steve asked her..
I saw that whole bit as them attempting to introduce the Diana Prince ID ... this version of WW was going to man's world more covertly and Steve was meant to be showing her how a woman from man's world would act. Obviously, in this particular world, chivalry was still more common than in our world and the expectation would be that a woman would wait for a door to be opened for her rather open it herself.
And for the record Chivalry is not about "women being the weaker sex" ... this part of the code is rooted in the concept of showing service to others (certainly that evolved to be more specific to women and took on some negative connotations for certain groups of feminist thinkers). Knights of Medieval times were idealized by bravery in combat, etiquette and service. In some ways it's similar to any other martial arts discipline from human history. A proper knight would be expected to put others needs ahead of his own (thus open a door for a lady) as a gesture of his own discipline and commitment to the greater good (i.e. his liege lord). Today some of us see these small gestures as respectful to others, not as a sign of domination.
Funny enough the whole thing, now that I'm thinking about it, this isn't too far off from Marston's Loving Submission theme :)
Both are very meh
Also is it really fair to compare a character from 2 series to a character from 2 movies?
Also is it really fair to compare a character from 2 series to a character from 2 movies?
Sure
@youknowwhattodo: I'm actually surprised that you actually care for Cyborg lol.
I didn't think I would either because he's not exactly the most engaging character, but he was the only character that I identified with in JL:War because he was one of the few rational minds in that sea of buffoonery and after pushing myself through Throne of Atlantis, I kinda felt bad for the guy. Not just because he is half-man, half machine, but he also has to work with this incarnation of the Justice League.
Ah I see. I for one haven't seen JL:War. I haven't been all that interested in DC animated films recently aside from Batman.
new animated one much more of a badass and isn't on batman's D all the time.
Instead she's on Superman's D
@ganon15: yea but at least she is with him not his cheer leader.
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