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#1 Posted by darknightspideyfanboy (1199 posts) - - Show Bio

lol Apollo vs superman who gonna win lol superman of course especially when Apollo doesn't know about superman and where he get his powers

#2 Edited by Hastalavista (357 posts) - - Show Bio

In her own world superman still manage to be the centre and the boss. Go home and wash the dishes, Diana

@darknightspideyfanboy said:

lol Apollo vs superman who gonna win lol superman of course especially when Apollo doesn't know about superman and where he get his powers

how come he knows superman but does not know he gets power up by yellow sunlight? or power down by red sunlight? he can just alter the temperature and frequency of his light the next time and superman will be helpless

#3 Edited by darknightspideyfanboy (1199 posts) - - Show Bio

@hastalavista: dont know apollo nvr meet the guysuperman till now and also Apollo might be racist against aliens to the point he doesnt care about them which screw over apollo cause he gave superman a major power boost when he blast superman with yellow sun energy

#4 Edited by RedQueen (1171 posts) - - Show Bio

@hastalavista: dont know apollo nvr meet the guysuperman till now and also Apollo might be racist against aliens to the point he doesnt care about them which screw over apollo cause he gave superman a major power boost when he blast superman with yellow sun energy

The gods don't care about anybody but their own - Apollo's headstrong attitude got in the way for this particular fight.

In her own world superman still manage to be the centre and the boss. Go home and wash the dishes, Diana

I think that's an unfair conclusion - Apollo and co know of Diana's strength and limitations - they adapt to her (not to mention that on more than one occasion she has severely beaten them). Superman was an unknown to them.

#5 Posted by Dernman (14775 posts) - - Show Bio

The fanboy in me wanted to say "yay" but the objective reader in me made me say "nay".

#6 Posted by Lvenger (18472 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman said:

The fanboy in me wanted to say "yay" but the objective reader in me made me say "nay".

I was hoping a meeting of Superman and Azzarello's Olympic Pantheon would be interesting but from the sounds of it, there's a lot wrong with this.

#7 Posted by SanoHibiki (1427 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, what we learned today?

You can be god and Athena’s brother, but you still wouldn’t have her wisdom.

@hastalavista:

In her own world superman still manage to be the centre and the boss. Go home and wash the dishes, Diana

Well, in the first issue Supes was somewhere on sidelines, so it’s just fairly that we got a little bit of Kryptonian’s action. Besides, give her a little time to recuperate after fight with Doomsday, will ya? After all, Diana is strongest female superhero on Earth, but she isn’t unstoppable killing machine like Doomsday. : )

#8 Edited by Hastalavista (357 posts) - - Show Bio

@sanohibiki: @redqueen: nah, i am just being cynical in the old fashion way ; )

@hastalavista: dont know apollo nvr meet the guysuperman till now and also Apollo might be racist against aliens to the point he doesnt care about them which screw over apollo cause he gave superman a major power boost when he blast superman with yellow sun energy

you are probably right. and it it fun to watch apollo gets his lesson

#9 Posted by SandMan_ (4528 posts) - - Show Bio

The last page was the best page.

#10 Edited by Hastalavista (357 posts) - - Show Bio
@lvenger said:

@dernman said:

The fanboy in me wanted to say "yay" but the objective reader in me made me say "nay".

I was hoping a meeting of Superman and Azzarello's Olympic Pantheon would be interesting but from the sounds of it, there's a lot wrong with this.

also, man it was BRIEF! ya think it should be a job for Azz maybe? lol

#11 Posted by Lvenger (18472 posts) - - Show Bio

@hastalavista: Well that's strange given the solicits made it out to be the main story of the issue.

#12 Edited by Dernman (14775 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@dernman said:

The fanboy in me wanted to say "yay" but the objective reader in me made me say "nay".

I was hoping a meeting of Superman and Azzarello's Olympic Pantheon would be interesting but from the sounds of it, there's a lot wrong with this.

Came off as rushed fanfiction a bit.

#13 Posted by SandMan_ (4528 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman: it is in a way. But as long as it is entertaining, whatever. Also....last page was badass.

#14 Posted by darknightspideyfanboy (1199 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: yeah it was very brief the only thing i could think for introducing them right now was to proly tease they will important in the next arc especially with donna troy being rumor to be coming back in SM/WW

#15 Posted by Lvenger (18472 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman: I suppose that was a major concern in writing a meeting like this.

#16 Posted by SanoHibiki (1427 posts) - - Show Bio

@hastalavista:

also, man it was BRIEF!

Don’t know how it was brief if it took more than the half of issue. Fight with big brother was brief, through...

Clark is quiet guy; he was just a little shy about meeting his girlfriend’s family…

Jokes aside, Soule could have introduced both Olympic- and Super- families to each other. I think that:

A) such dysfunctional families deserve each other

B) their meeting would have been … earth-shattering.

#17 Edited by Hastalavista (357 posts) - - Show Bio

@sanohibiki: yay! time travels and all that! i really want to see diana meets kal's mom. they are both warriors, at least in new52. could be fun.

@darknightspideyfanboy: i want donna back!

@lvenger: i have learned not to trust the teasers any more...

#18 Edited by SanoHibiki (1427 posts) - - Show Bio

@hastalavista:

yay! time travels and all that! i really want to see diana meets kal's mom. they are both warriors, at least in new52. could be fun.

You spoke The Truth.

Diana should have gone on Krypton instead of Kara in current “Return to Krypton” arc. She don’t lose her powers under red sun, she would have been in centre of action and (whispering) main reason for me – that little Kara/H’el romance gives me creeps.

Then meeting with warrior mother of Supes. I just imagine – Lara would be like “that was when little Kal wet his diaper” and mentioned Kal would be like “Mom, don’t embarrass me in front of my girlfriend”.

LOL. Thanks, mate, you just made my day.

P.S. Anyway, New-52 Lara reminds me about Bana Amazon, Artemis.

#19 Posted by GrenadeFlow (1374 posts) - - Show Bio

Apollo had no chance

#20 Posted by Hastalavista (357 posts) - - Show Bio

@sanohibiki: haha i always like artemis. she was so dynamic and lively. if this series goes well, me might actually have an chance to see the interaction. i hope that if their relationship ends, the series won't end with it. prove your sincerity, dc.

#22 Posted by toptom (1155 posts) - - Show Bio

i really don't get why Superman beating Apollo is shocking: he has incidentally amped him, that's why Superman has humiliated him.

#23 Posted by Blackdog2009 (1818 posts) - - Show Bio

@toptom: Supes was already wrecking Apollo before the accidental amp. But really it wasn't a bad showing from Apollo, he did bitchslap Supes pretty bad ;). I'm liking this book. Superman and WW are facing incredible, powerful beings and unlike in the Superman/Batman book... Superman's powers don't need to be dumbed down in order to make Batsy look good.

#25 Edited by Fallschirmjager (15321 posts) - - Show Bio

The artwork alone is reason enough to read the book.

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#26 Posted by termiteone4ever (7003 posts) - - Show Bio

I am pretty sure i am going to like this series.

1. The art and story :)
2. Now i am not sure if anybody take in effect how powerful doomsday is. As one of my closest friends Tensor mention you see the difference in power between the two. Even tho doomsday wasnt completely out of the Zone he is the number one contender for sure IMO puts HEL in second place.

3. Wonder woman couldnt even stand up to the Blows Fast powerful enough to break her arms not one but both of them. I like her healing ability top notch for a high level heavy hitter.

4 Apollo is no joke very strong he never threw a punch at Supes but just a back hand. These Gods are more powerful than i expected.

5. Now how powerful is superman going to be? with a Magical Armor ?

6. Superman Suit even with magical molten what ever it is did damage to suit but not enough to kill him and the heal and repair rate is off the charts for supes as well .

Yes i am going to enjoy this

#27 Posted by tensor (3928 posts) - - Show Bio

I always said to people superman is on a different level than wonder woman the 2 blows from doomsday prove it

#28 Posted by BattheMan008 (309 posts) - - Show Bio

Comic shop didn't have it...

#29 Posted by PowerWoman (3339 posts) - - Show Bio

SUPERMAN NOT BEAT Apollo by himself power,Serious

Apollo power= sun,that give superman extra-power,and that why superman beat him,before apollo one shotted out superman with easily

#30 Posted by veronicacris (110 posts) - - Show Bio


Pretty bad, Wonder woman doesn't do nothing here. really filler issue

#31 Posted by PowerWoman (3339 posts) - - Show Bio

@redqueen: @lvenger: @sanohibiki: @grenadeflow: @fallschirmjager: @termiteone4ever: @tensor: @battheman008: @darknightspideyfanboy: @toptom: @citizenbane:

Let me stop this crazy point

Superman:"I dont know if i could handle him"

THIS IS DOOMSDAY,even superman himself said he not sure he can beat him,but if wonder woman help him,they are could be beat doomsday,so,doomsday beat wonder woman isnt shame

And Apollo casual one shotted out superman with EASILY

And superman full-power shotted on the Apollo face,but look like isnt harm him

SEE,why superman beat him?only superman himself power?HELL!No!

"YOU HIE ME WITH....SUNLIGHT?YOU DONT KNOW VERY MUCH ABOUT ME"

And superman said:I KNOW YOU COULD HAVE HANDLED THAT YOURSELF"

WONDER WOMAN:TRUE,but I enjoyed WATCHING YOU ALL THE SAME"

If Doomsday can beat wonder woman

He could be beat superman too

superman beat Apollo is not HIMSELF power,Serious,this not a Shame!And superman even himself belive wonder woman can beat apollo!(even superman need extra-power could do that!)

#32 Posted by PowerWoman (3339 posts) - - Show Bio
#33 Posted by BattheMan008 (309 posts) - - Show Bio

@redqueen: @lvenger: @sanohibiki: @grenadeflow: @fallschirmjager: @termiteone4ever: @tensor: @battheman008: @darknightspideyfanboy: @toptom: @citizenbane:

Let me stop this crazy point

Superman:"I dont know if i could handle him"

THIS IS DOOMSDAY,even superman himself said he not sure he can beat him,but if wonder woman help him,they are could be beat doomsday,so,doomsday beat wonder woman isnt shame

And Apollo casual one shotted out superman with EASILY

And superman full-power shotted on the Apollo face,but look like isnt harm him

SEE,why superman beat him?only superman himself power?HELL!No!

"YOU HIE ME WITH....SUNLIGHT?YOU DONT KNOW VERY MUCH ABOUT ME"

And superman said:I KNOW YOU COULD HAVE HANDLED THAT YOURSELF"

WONDER WOMAN:TRUE,but I enjoyed WATCHING YOU ALL THE SAME"

If Doomsday can beat wonder woman

He could be beat superman too

superman beat Apollo is not HIMSELF power,Serious,this not a Shame!And superman even himself belive wonder woman can beat apollo!(even superman need extra-power could do that!)

Well, thank you for now giving me no reason to pick up this comic!

#34 Posted by PowerWoman (3339 posts) - - Show Bio
#35 Edited by darknightspideyfanboy (1199 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerwoman: sweet scan but nvr had a problem with Apollo and superman fight it was obvious it was Apollo ignorance that screw him over also i wonder how superman magic armor is going to look like

#36 Posted by PowerWoman (3339 posts) - - Show Bio

@darknightspideyfanboy: Yes,he dont know sunlight could be make superman STRONGER,you can see they are fight firse,apollo one shotted out superman with EASILY,then superman get STRONGER,he can beat him,and superman even said wonder woman could do it too

#37 Edited by SanoHibiki (1427 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerwoman:

I still don’t know how some people come to conclusion that Diana much weaker that Supes in this title. In these 2 issues I didn’t see any situations which we can use to compare their strength’s levels. It took more than two blows from Doomsday to hurt her and so far we didn’t see how Superman fares against it.

I agree with your interpretation of Superman vs Apollo fight (except that part about Superman being one-shotted). Curious, his costume “heals” its “wounds” in yellow sunlight? And is there difference between common sunlight and Apollo-produced sunlight?

If anything, I understand why meeting between Super and Diana’s family was … brief, like someone put it. It wasn’t formal introduction like “Brothers, sisters, this is my boyfriend. Now shake your hands and welcome him in our loving family”. They simply didn’t care about with whom Diana in relationship, instead using opportunity just for some snide remarks.

And after second reading of this issue, I also don’t have anything against how fast was Supes vs Apollo fight.

Arrogance, ignorance and pride always were reasons for downfall, and Superman perfectly suited to put Apollo down a notch.

Several Superman titles got his timeline in complete mess, but his authors at least somewhat coordinate between each other and let others to have some impact on what happening in their titles. But in case of SM/WW title Soule simply can’t make something more serious and lasting than this short squabble. In other case it should have some impact on Diana’s main title, but how I hear recently, Azarello practically cut it off from rest of New-52. So, so far it was stupid to expect something more grand in the very beginning. Well, maybe later Soule will squeeze out of DC permission to use someone from Pre-Flashpoint Wondy’s rogue gallery.

So, conclusion – good issue that deserves to be bought.

#38 Posted by toplel (815 posts) - - Show Bio

Is this any more than Superman fanwanking? Superman saves his girlfriend, gets told how hes the STRONKEST, not just cause hes STRONK, but hes Clark and Kal El and Superman at the same time! Then he gets his girlfriends brother, who she actually choked earlier, to make him some armor while he beats up the other brother while Diana and Strife get all hot and bothered at the blatant display of masculinity.

10/10, would read again and have a good laugh.

#39 Posted by toptom (1155 posts) - - Show Bio

@battheman008: Apollo hasn't one-shotted Superman at all: he has just hit him first, just to be hit harder then, before the accidental power-up.

#40 Posted by Lvenger (18472 posts) - - Show Bio

@toptom said:

@battheman008: Apollo hasn't one-shotted Superman at all: he has just hit him first, just to be hit harder then, before the accidental power-up.

You have to admit it would have been PIS if Superman had thrown Apollo without the amp given that Apollo beat WW down easily in her own series and pimp slapped Superman like he was nothing.

#41 Edited by Lvenger (18472 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerwoman: I never 'followed' the crazy point in the first place.

#42 Edited by toptom (1155 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@toptom said:

@battheman008: Apollo hasn't one-shotted Superman at all: he has just hit him first, just to be hit harder then, before the accidental power-up.

You have to admit it would have been PIS if Superman had thrown Apollo without the amp given that Apollo beat WW down easily in her own series and pimp slapped Superman like he was nothing.

I don't know how strong Apollo really is, i haven't seen the fight in which he has defeated ww so i can't really tell if it would be pis or not, however i have already specified some posts before that he could defeat him that easily just thanks to the power-up. I wanted just to clarify the fact Apollo hasn't one shotted Superman, who wasn't ready and who wasn't damaged by that back-hand. For sure that fight would be different if Apollo will engage Superman again: he won't do that mistake twice.

#43 Edited by PowerWoman (3339 posts) - - Show Bio

@toptom: OHHHH.MAN.....Apollo>>>>>>>>>>>superman, Because apollo>>>>>First Born>>>>>ww,if superman can beat apollo,that would be a shame for ww and her fans,you dont really want to see this happey

@lvenger: Ok,lol

@sanohibiki: Thanks bro

#44 Posted by Lvenger (18472 posts) - - Show Bio

@toptom: He straight up flattened Wonder Woman with ease in Azzarello's series. He seems to have taken little damage from her too as well as not being harmed by Superman's first punch. What's more, Superman only BFRed Apollo, he didn't take a clean victory.

#45 Posted by PowerWoman (3339 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: I dont know,but if superman easily beat Apollo,and Apollo easily beat wonder woman,That just...I dont know,but this would be a shame,the DC most powerful woman just a joke

#46 Posted by PowerWoman (3339 posts) - - Show Bio

@sanohibiki: People hate it because some people like toptom(sorry,bro,not attack you)they are like superman beat apollo,but for the ww fans,they are see doomsday beat ww with easily,then superman beat apollo,so....

It's a bit make wonder woman looks like a supporting role and far weaker than superman,thoug I must be agree superman really FAR STRONGER than her(Bench earth five days.lol)

#47 Posted by toptom (1155 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Yes Superman didn't take a clean victory..because he didn't want to. After that power- up he has decided to go easy on him since he was her brother, then he has bfred him effortlessly.

For sure the fight would last way longer if Apollo hadn't used that move, but i don't know if Apollo would have been the clear victor nevertheless.

#48 Edited by toptom (1155 posts) - - Show Bio

@sanohibiki: People hate it because some people like toptom(sorry,bro,not attack you)they are like superman beat apollo,but for the ww fans,they are see doomsday beat ww with easily,then superman beat apollo,so....

It's a bit make wonder woman looks like a supporting role and far weaker than superman,thoug I must be agree superman really FAR STRONGER than her(Bench earth five days.lol)

Superman has defeated him 'cause he has amped him.This is what we know for sure.

Plus Doomsday can probably wreck Superman too, so isn't strange he has defeated ww at all. He is Doomsday and he has trashed ww even in the previous continuity.

This issue isn't showing wonderwoman in a bad light at all...i really don't undertsand people sometimes.

#49 Edited by SanoHibiki (1427 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerwoman:

superman beat apollo

It's a bit make wonder woman looks like a supporting role and far weaker than superman

But that’s not true.

Superman didn’t exactly beat Apollo, after all, that wasn’t all-open fight until only one stands. Let’s see how it went: sucker punching Supes-Supes giving Apollo full WMACK-Apollo energizing Supes-Supes burying him in the mount. That’s all.

And I don’t think Superman stronger than Apollo any more that Batman stronger than Superman. Batman with Kryptonite can beat Superman (insert eye-rolling here) because in that case he utilizes Super’s weakness, in turn, Superman is ideal candidate to deal with Apollo, because, well, all this sun light…

For me it’s not about who is stronger, for me this game of weaknesses, powers and their traits.

And IMO, in pure physical strength department, I prefer to think that Diana should be on the same level as Supes. Maybe not as strong exactly, but more like her 75-80 % to his 100%.

#50 Posted by PowerWoman (3339 posts) - - Show Bio

@sanohibiki: I agree with you,bro,I just said some people points,not me,and i think ww should be 80-90 to superman 100% strength,75-80 a bit less..though

@toptom: I know..I mean,you cant put superman>apollo,because apollo>FB>ww in wonder woman herself comic book...if superman > apollo,superman would become really billion(if not)time stronger than ww...that just a shame for her fans