#101 Posted by matchesmalone21 (9023 posts) - - Show Bio

@RedQueen:You're welcome. OKay!!

#102 Posted by Captain13 (3450 posts) - - Show Bio

@Captain13 said:

#103 Posted by moywar700 (2775 posts) - - Show Bio

@Captain13 said:

@Captain13 said:

There's ur movie costume.

#104 Posted by OutlawRenegade (1251 posts) - - Show Bio
#106 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@matchesmalone21: and i think that the writter should keep wonder woman's power level going higher and higher,now that she's a semi-goddess,she should have energy divine powers,and at some point she should reach the level of solar system buster,it'd be great to see her being able to destroy a solar system,at some point she should reach tyhat power level.

#107 Posted by Crimson_Butterfly (33 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior said:

@matchesmalone21: and i think that the writter should keep wonder woman's power level going higher and higher,now that she's a semi-goddess,she should have energy divine powers,and at some point she should reach the level of solar system buster,it'd be great to see her being able to destroy a solar system,at some point she should reach tyhat power level.

I think she's weaker now before the reboot she was capable of handling Gods now she's having trouble agianst Apollo.

#108 Posted by moywar700 (2775 posts) - - Show Bio

@Crimson_Butterfly said:

@gokuwarrior said:

@matchesmalone21: and i think that the writter should keep wonder woman's power level going higher and higher,now that she's a semi-goddess,she should have energy divine powers,and at some point she should reach the level of solar system buster,it'd be great to see her being able to destroy a solar system,at some point she should reach tyhat power level.

I think she's weaker now before the reboot she was capable of handling Gods now she's having trouble agianst Apollo.

apollo was written to be on her level.

#109 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@Crimson_Butterfly: apollo is a complete god,isn't he?.

but she has never been in the level of solar system buster,my point is that her power level should keep getting higher and higher,and at some point she should become powerful enough to destroy a solar system,that's what i'd like.

#110 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@moywar700:

my point is that her power level should keep getting higher and higher,and at some point she should become powerful enough to destroy a solar system,that's what i'd like.

#111 Posted by moywar700 (2775 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior said:

@moywar700:

my point is that her power level should keep getting higher and higher,and at some point she should become powerful enough to destroy a solar system,that's what i'd like.

she would be too hard to write in team books.

#112 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@moywar700: actually it's all the oppsite,havin a power level that high,will make the writters more consistent about the plots,they will have to put charactes that are in the same league,so every character will face just the characters in their respective leagues,and that way we won't have PIS like superman and wonder woman being tagged by people without uper speed,a normal human knoking a super human and all that crap,wonder woman,superman etc,should be in the solar system buster level,and they should face only characters in their league,it'd be easier to writte plots,if writters respect the power level from every character,and make the story based on that,making them figh people only in their respective leagues,to make it the chracters development consistent.

#113 Posted by Crimson_Butterfly (33 posts) - - Show Bio

@moywar700: @gokuwarrior:

Before the reboot she punch Zeus to the ground and was capable of handling Ares both of those are complete Gods now she's having problems with Apollo.

#114 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@Crimson_Butterfly: apollo was written to be on nher level,and she keeps getting more powerful as the time goes by.

#115 Posted by Crimson_Butterfly (33 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior: So Apollo is stronger than Zeus and Ares?

#116 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@Crimson_Butterfly: apollo is just powerful enough to face her now,just now,her power level keeps getting more powerful as the time keeps passing by,her power level keeps gettting higher step by step,we still have to wait to see her showing more power,i don't like that her evolution is slow,but it's easier to keep up with her development,she'll keep getting more and morre powerful,we have to be patien.

#117 Posted by ArtsyGal (125 posts) - - Show Bio
#118 Posted by matchesmalone21 (9023 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior: I understand,but he have to wait the next issues to see,If she became more and more powerful

#119 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@matchesmalone21: yes,we have to wait,i hope she gets powerful and consistent,because i'm tired of a youtube user that keeps telling me that she doesn't always have super speed,that she can't move at super speed,or fight at super speed,that only some writters allow her to do so,and all that crap,every powerful opponent that wonder woman beats,he starts to say,oh but a guy with a cloroform defeated her,she was easily mind controled,amazons gave her problems,and he says he likes wonder woman,LOL!.

#120 Posted by matchesmalone21 (9023 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior:Damn Ironic writers,she should have more powers to differentiate itself from Superman and I hope she stillimmune to mind control like before (but the writers always forgot that),I don't want that a simple metal can cut her skin or cause serious injury!!

#121 Posted by jphulk26 (1332 posts) - - Show Bio

I have this idea for a WW film. Based on the New 52 Direction. Have a look, let me know what you think.

Also see my article: "Fan Cast Wonder Woman Plot And Cast" A Modern Reinterpretation Of The Classic Tale.

Important Background

The CIA and the military, restart a secret Project that was shut down due to its danger. Some years ago a young genius named Lex Luthor was causing a stir at Harvard when they thought he had created a device that could hurl objects through Space and Time. The young man, a son of an eccentric multimillionaire, was quickly taken in by a Secret Government Agency, which was a division of the CIA, called Cadmus. They took him into top secret underground labs in hope they could get some of their brightest minds to help him. But his mind was so advanced that even their top military scientists couldn´t really assist him, as they could barely understand what he was doing. The math behind required an almost preternatural comprehension of String Theory, quantum mechanics, applied physics, submolecular and Atomic Physics and engineering etc. Even more astonishing was this 17 year old already doing a PHd in physics, seemed have started the project for mere kicks. They had never seen a mind quite like his. Before Lex had completed work, and eager to test the device, a cadmus agent named Amanda Waller had the device recreated, in a remote subterranean compound, somewhere abroad.

A fearless army officer named Hal Jordon was to test the portal. At first everything went well; the portal seemed stable. However, as soon as Hal stepped through the portal, it started to collapse, all the scientists who witnessed the experiment died, as the compound imploded, collapsing a half mile of desert above the compound. Hal Jordan is never Heard of again.

Meanwhile Lex Luthor, now in Washington DC, is under the impression that he has finally perfected his machine and believes it is ready for nonhuman trials.

Amanda Waller on hearing this and knowing the devastation Cadmus´ copy has caused, shuts down the program. They pay off Luthor 1 billion dollars to keep quiet about it, and to not pursue any further experimentation in the area. Luthor who had started building the machine purely out of boredom as he was tired of beating his computer at chess, and had already finished his Harvard PHd thesis six months ahead of schedule. Never really that passionate about it, and more interested in being rich, Luthor takes the money and builds Lex Corp. A high end technology company. (more of that later)

10 years later - We are introduced to the president, of the United States. He´s in a meeting talking about China helping Iran stockpile weapons grade uranium, and the possibility of having to take military action against Iran).

He leaves the meeting then entering the White House office. He sit in a chair and across from him is Amanda Waller.

The President Of The United States talks to Amanda Wallar. He´s Troubled by the appearance of Superman, a seemingly indestructible alien, who can wipe out the entire US army without a scratch, but who claims he just wants to help humanity. The president goes to his defense Secretary Amanda Waller asking if there is anything the Government has that can defeat this guy and protect US citizens.

1- (There should be a scene soon after this where we see the President, smiling shaking supermans hand)

2 - (Also during this part, we see the president in press conference, addressing an African state. He says genocide is not acceptable, and that he will be placing sanctions on the country if they do not stop the brutality against their own people)

Amanda Waller thinks she has a solution to the Superman problem. Cadmus decide to try and weaponize the portal, so they can use it to strand Superman in some unknown region of space, if need be. Luthor is called in again, but he is not briefed on what Amanda really wants with the Portal. They commission him to create a stable portal that will allow people to travel through and return. But also that can be turned off, with no access back.

That´s the back story. For the portal. Not all of it need be in the film itself, just what is relevant.

We then move to the beginning of the movie.

Setup.

After finishing trials on the portal, which Luthor seems to have stabilized, they run their first human trial. Space Pilot Steve Trevor, is sent with a crew in a modified space ship, built by Lex Corp for space jumping, as he calls it. At the moment it is only random parts of space that can be entered. They don´t know how to set certain coordinates, as they don´t have enough knowledge of the universe.

Steve Trevor, is the sole survivor on the mission through the portal. However to his surprise he

isn´t in some vast empty part of space, rather he finds himself on a planet much like our own. The portal closes. In his space suit, he leaves the ship, and gazes in amazement at a beautiful island. He finally gets brave enough to remove his Helmet. Realizing he can breathe, he takes his whole suit off and swims ashore. But before he knows it, he sees a bunch of sublime looking warrior women running up to him. As he watches stunned he whispers to himself to himself ¨no wonder the last guy didn´t come back”, but soon he realizes, the women are actually tracking him down and perhaps want to kill him.

Eventually he is captured by an Amazonian, who seems to be leader of the “army of super models” as Steve refers to them. (They are not amused) Her name is Diana, he is taken back to Thanyscaria and finds out about their culture.

He discovers that some how in this reality, the Greek mythologies are really believed in, and that their technology and Fighting is advanced. He is told of why they have had to isolate themselves from Mans World, after the violence that men caused, and is intrinsic to their nature.

He discovers that in this world ancient figures like Sophocles and Homer were not writers, but rather that they lived the adventures of their stories for real. For example Sophocles was Oedipus. Steve discusses with WW that maybe the souls of this reality are somehow connected to their counterparts in other realities.

In the Amazonian prisons dwell some of the most twisted men, demons and Gods. The Amazons are given this responsibility by the Gods, to guard such dangerous criminals. On such prisoner is one sick puppy called Ares “known as Master Of War” (I will come back to this later)

Eventually it´s revealed to Steve that The Amazonian´s have had the technology that brought him to Paradise Island for centuries and have perfected the technology. However because they are isolationists, they refuse to use the technology.

Queen of the Amazonian´s Hippolytus, requests that an Amazonian take Steve back to his world and destroy the technology, so that man could never again come upon their shores. A competition is set, to determine the warrior capable of such a mission, but the Queen forbids her daughter Diana to take part. Stating her naivety about men as the reason. Diana who has been charmed by this weak Little man, and herself having a curious spirit decides to secretly take part in the competition by switching places with her best friend Circe. She wins by defeating Mala for the title. Her mother reluctantly concedes. That night the Amazonian´s turn on the portal, set the coordinates to Earth. Once the correct coordinates align she and Steve will leave.

Mean while Ares the God Of War (imprisoned for his own sake by his father Zeus on Paradise Island, discovers that as the Portal opens his powers begin to return to him) He feeds off the psychic energy of War, Hatred, Famine, Death. As none of this occurs on Paradise Island he has no power and is weak beyond belief. The strange but familiar energy emanating from the Portal gives him just enough power to break from prison. With out conscience he leaves his brother, Haphaestus to rot and languish in prison, mocking him as he leaves. It is established earlier that Haphaestus is only in prison for building Ares an indestructible suit of Armor, which allowed him destroy the Amazonian´s first city. Hera forced Haphaestus to confess the Armors Acyles Heel, or she would banish him to the Underworld. This is how the Amazonian´s first defeated Ares, and Ares hates his brother for this.

Reasoning that at his current power he couldn´t take on The Amazonian´s Ares decides to sneak through the portal at dead of night, killing two Amazonian guards, one of whom was friends with Diana.

He finds himself bare naked in Alaska, once through. Someone comes to assist and cloth him. But we realize by his eyes his power has increased ten fold.

(This scene comes later, but we see him leaving the home of the Alaskan whose kindly offered to help him. As he leaves clothed, we realize everyone in the family is dead and the father, the man who helped, is hanging from the ceiling. He leaves the house smiling in hefty clothing saying “I need a new Wardrobe!)¨.

Back to the WW plot. Obviously the Amazonian´s discover that Ares is free and WW discovers her dear friend Circe who was on Guard duty for the Portal has been killed. Knowing she died a warriors death, Queen H, tries to confort Diana. But now Diana´s mission to Steve´s world is revenge. Queen H takes Steve aside and tells him on Dianes divine birth; (See Hera casting above for background) she warns that if he hurts her, that she will destroy him.

Queen H then goes to Diana, knowing she can´t stop her she gives her a suit of armor, that was created by the Gods and gives its wearer extraordinary powers. (See weapons and powers) She also gives her a Golden Tiara with a gem in the middle. Diana is not told what it is for, but her mother asks her to promise she will wear it all times. She does. (We find out later, it matches her mothers Golden Tiara, and was forged by the twins Gemini, to connect two minds. Queen H uses it to monitor her dear daughter)

That´s the setup

Middle

Wonder Woman and Steve Trevor are now in our world.

Steve tries to help her find Ares. Really he just wants to get in her pants. Something she is not happy with.

WW immediately starts seeing the difference between women of her world and women of ours. She is disgusted by how women are treated in the world and brain washed into believing they are weak.

She takes particular offense at one of Steves friends Etta Candy, who seems to trade off her sexual allure to gain favor from men.

While frustrated, a gang try and rob WW; she kicks their ass, and is about to kill one of them when Steve stops her before the fatal blow, teaching her she can´t just kill her enemies, it´s wrong, A lesson she isn´t quite ready to learn yet. She let´s the thief go.

During their investigation they discover some curious happenings in the world, as nations in the Middle East, Africa and Eastern Europe plunge into Wars, Genocides, and military posturing. One figure seems to be behind this.

A Suave arms dealer, who calls himself Alaska, seems to have come out of no wehere, and, everywhere he goes, conflicts seem to get worse. The US government continue monitoring the conflicts. All the time one of the President´s top advisors and military strategists, General Todd Thompson, voices his concerns about certain regions, and how the President has to be strong in these times and attack first if need be "For the sake of peace, and the American way". The president and Amanda Wallar are reluctant.

It turns out Are´s is Alaska, cynically stirring up age old conflicts, while recruiting henchmen from Genocidal regimes. As they adventure across shores to capture Ares, a slow and steamy will they won´t relationship is established between Steve and WW.

WW and Steve, travel across War Zones to battle. In one where the conflict isn´t yet underway, WW is able to explain to leaders the virtue of peace, before its to late. Thwarting Ares plans.

In others its straight up action. With WW both horrified and furious at the brutality certain regimes level against their own most vulnerable people. The unarmed and weak. And when she gets pissed, it gets cool. At one point. She gets so angry in a war zone when she witnesses a man about to gun down a small child in cold blood. That she disarms. Grabs him by the balls, lifting him off the ground by them and head butts him sending him crashing into a tank. She then goes to him saying "You are no warrior, you weak, and pray on those who can´t defend themselves. But since you want to be a warrior, well, I can provide you with a warriors death." She then plunges a sword into him. After which she says some words of encouragement to the child. Steve comes, not seeing she saved the child life and says "You just had to kill someone didn´t you?!", she smiles and retorts "Don´t worry. I won´t be losing any sleep."

WW and Steve finally catch up to Ares. He´s a plush hotel in France, where he´s meeting an dictator

African dictator. WW has to dress normal to not raise suspicion. She finally gets to his room. He is in a large all white bathroom, with red rose petals strewn across the floor and perfectly marble white bath at its centre. As you enter, on closer inspection he seems to be bathing in blood.

He tells WW he bathing in The Blood Of Innocents. She goes to attack him throwing him across the room. As he gets up his armor, builds around him. And now you see Ares in his full glory. WW gets roughed up pretty bad in this scene as she isn´t wearing her Armor and cant match his strength like this. its Steve who comes in with a daring to save, and momentarily stunning Ares.

They escape, but WW is hurt bad.

The Final Act

Several terrorist attacks are seen around Europe, England, France and Russia. A bomb goes off in Metropolis. The US receives contacts from several leaders of rogue regimes claiming responsibility. However one attack is prevented in Washington is prevented by WW.

Ares furious at her interjection, knowing that was the attack that would have got the US ready for war, uses his now heightened power. To return to the US to solidify his malevolent plans.

Meanwhile many countries are contacting the US, claiming that the communications are false and they are not responsible for the attacks.

As chaos rages outside the White House with the national guard and Ares forces. Inside the White House, General Todd, is demanding the US nuke on Iran And North Korea (for example) while Amanda Wallar asks the president to be patient. Eventually Amanda and him are in a private room he begins to choke her, lifting her from the ground, and we realize General Todd is Ares.

Amanda lives because Ares sees WW fly into assist the General guard against Ares forces outside the White House, but she is unconscious.

Ares then watches over the battle outside between WW, the national guard and Ares henchmen who he has kitted out with high technology weapons. When Ares realizes they are not a match for WW, he conjures up spirits of dead warriors to fight her, along side the technologically advanced soldiers on his side. WW is now greatly out numbered and it seems like Ares has got the better of her.

It is then that a portal opens and Amazonian warriors rush out to assist WW. They fight off Ares forces, giving WW the chance to make it to Ares. Ares is now God Like in power, but not quite the combatant WW is with her armor. When he realizes he is losing he rides along some lightning. The next thing we know he is in the White House War Room, he has shape shifted into the President and he commands that nukes be fired on North Korea or some other country. After the command is met and the nukes are fired he says, "Well boys, I hope this isn´t an election year." The nukes now fired he gains more power, and he now can psychically control them. You now know his plan all along was to set them to hit London and Moscow who would think the US attacked them plunging Europe and The United States into all out war.

(It will have to be depicted visually somehow that he does this. WW, realizing the nukes have been fired immediately goes after them. Her mother horrified, gets Steve to go after her. When he asks ´how?´ a highly advanced plane flies through the portal. He gets in . He starts flying it. And it´s fast. He says: "Well who said the Amazonian´s didn´t have style." He presses a button by accident and the plane becomes invisible and then shoots off at hyper speed. Meanwhile WW catches up to one of the Nukes over the Ocean and disarms it; but another two continue to their destination. Steve catches up with WW. But they both know what to do. Steve goes after one while Wonder Woman chases the other.

Basically with a bit of struggle Steve shoots down one and WW flies in front of the other, asks Hera to give her strength then bangs her Braclet together as hard as she can. This causes an energy field. We see as the missile explode on her into a mushroom cloud. She flies away from the explosion at extreme speed. We don´t know what happens.

2 days later. WW has been stripped down and is in a hospital bed. Steve is there with flowers. She thanks him. "They´re beautiful" Steve cynically replies, so you mean "This is nice, you donñt take it as a cynical male gesture in which they represents mans insidious dominion over your sisters, who have been brainwashed into believing being treated as weak and delicate is some how a compliment and something they ought to strive toward." or something a bit better than that. You get the point. WW, after some banter about his statement asks "What happened?" Steve, "You broke some bones, but you´re pretty tough, you´re healing pretty well. by the way if they ask, i didn´t run the red light, you were the one J walking." he smiles.

Some time later:

WW gives her mother some schpeal about wanting to return to mans world as Ambassador for the Amazonian´s. She says she´s needed, as a beacon of strength for women and humanity, and to protect the vulnerable from the evil man is capable of.

Queen H, tells her "Yes" but then looks at her daughter seeing through her rouse. "You miss him don´t you?" (without need for a reply) "Then go to him my child."

Her mother grants her her wish and lets her know she´s always watching and never to far.

Ares has disappeared.

In the offices of Cadmus. Amanda Wallas looks over a file. We see that its called, The Meta-Human Problem?

She then looks at her screen, its a secret Cadmus lab. Amanda Waller watches from her office computer screen. We then go into the secret lab. The scientists state they have been able to set different coordinates on the Portal. They open it. We see an Ape manning a starship. The ship is entering the portal obviously set to auto pilot. The scientist´s discuss Grodd the chimps chance of survival. One says "I Don´t like his chances" We then acquire the chimps point of view as he´s set to Space Jump. From his camera Point Of View, we go slowly through the vortex, with Grodd the Chimp. The Chimp lands on a “Mars” like World, but fire burns from it´s pours.

The chimp in shock sees a statue carved from the mountain like rock, of a figures face. We know that figure to be Dark Seid. The end.

Notes On Choice Of Villain

Why not Hades of Cheetah?

Hades Why Ares and not Hades? The reason is Ares ties into the so many modern themes. He could insinuate himself into War Zones to gain power. He´s also a real match for Wonder Woman and has very cool powers. I also think this film should be about Wonder Woman fighting for women, and all those others like blacks and gays, who don´t get a voice in the super genre or the world for that matter. I think she should be a superhero re-imagined for the marginalised, those considered weak and the voiceless.

That´s why her story is so in need of being told.

Wonder Woman needs to fight the epitome of Modern Man gone wrong, and the disastrous wars we´ve embarked on in recent times. Ares is just that, he´s Wonder Woman´s Lex Luthor or Joker. He represents everything she isn´t.

Cheetah - Chetah is a great villain, but again I just think she needs to be saved for later chapters.

She´s an arch villain, but for the sake of real contrast to define WW in the first film you need an enemy that is her opposite and is a formidable match for her, visually Chetah will need someone else backing her, to raise the stakes high enough. Maybe another female villain, an Amazonian who thinks men are weak and pathetic and wants to take over our world.

If anything I think the female villain in the first movie should be Etta Candy; and she should just be a rival love interest for Steve´s affections, who clearly uses her sexuality to present herself as weak and vulnerable and in need of help to do anything lest she break a nail.

The main villain in the first film has to be Modern Man himself. That´s why the God Of War is a potent villain.

Read more at http://www.comicbookmovie.com/news/?a=65145#TFkqHy7wBwS60FrG.99

#122 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@matchesmalone21: i agree,i hope writters can get it righ.

the youtube user keeps telling me that wonder woman never does something important,that writters aren't consistent with her powers and that they use her as a punching bag,allowing even men with cloroform to beat her sometimes.

#123 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@jphulk26: wonder woman doesn't get her powers from her armor,her powers come from the gods,in this case from zeus,and she cabn use her powers at

any time,she doesn't need an armor to use her powers.

#124 Posted by Noctis (1396 posts) - - Show Bio
@Katie24 said:

I like this new Wonder Woman way more than the old one. She is young, brash and a total badass!

#125 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@jphulk26: that's good,but wonder woman has always had super strength,super speed,reflexes,durability,etc,later she gained the power to fly too.

but comic wonder woman never needed an armor to use her powers,she can use them at any time,without the need of a special armor,that's why i think that she should stay that way,being able to use her powrs at will without the need of a special suit.

#126 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@jphulk26: if that's your idea for a movie it's ok.

but i just wanted to clarify that wonder woman doesn't need a suit or armor to use her powers,with normal clothes,she is just as strong,just as fast,jusat as durable and ust as skill,because those are her powers,powers that she has in her naturaly,that's what i wanted to clarify,and she isn't a female superman,she has many powers similar to his powers,but she has her own origin,personality,she's her own character.

#127 Posted by matchesmalone21 (9023 posts) - - Show Bio

@jphulk26: NIce!!

#128 Posted by Amazon_Brigade (7 posts) - - Show Bio

This is awsome. Cool someone did this

#131 Posted by starrk_coyote (625 posts) - - Show Bio

@matchesmalone21 said:

Fighting with zombies in the Underworld
caption
The Lasso can do more than,imply someone to speak the truth
Throwing Hephaestus

@sunhawk: @sethysquare: @Katie24: @starrk_coyote: @oraclefyre: More scans

@matchesmalone21 said:

@Amazon_Brigade: Thanks!!! :)

@Noctis: @gokuwarrior: Full sequence of wonder woman inLondon facing Poseidon and Centaurs

Throwing a centaur
Throwing a van

THANK YOU! MORE! YES! YES! MORE! MORE! :D

#133 Posted by starrk_coyote (625 posts) - - Show Bio

dose any one want more scans? i am sure that matchesmalone21 well be more then happy to give us more! because i would love more scans of her :)

#135 Edited by Superdork (917 posts) - - Show Bio
#137 Posted by moywar700 (2775 posts) - - Show Bio

I think WW might have some hidden power. Perhaps some traits from her father?

#138 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@matchesmalone21: thanks for the scans,but still nothing impresive,the attacks that she blocked,how fast are those attacks?super sonic?,hyper sonic?,light speed?,nothing to be impresive if we don't know how fast those attacks are.

she was struggling against that rock,and it wasn't that big.

and she didn't show too much of that supposed new power,masybe she'll get even better,it's too soon to talk about her power level,but it won't matter if writters aren't consistent,if they show her being very powerful in some issues,it won't matter if the next issues they let street level characters humiliate her,the only thing i want,is that writters treat her properly,don't fall into inconsistencies,PIS isn't hard to avoid.

#139 Edited by WDW (1514 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior said:

@matchesmalone21: thanks for the scans,but still nothing impresive,the attacks that she blocked,how fast are those attacks?super sonic?,hyper sonic?,light speed?,nothing to be impresive if we don't know how fast those attacks are.

she was struggling against that rock,and it wasn't that big.

and she didn't show too much of that supposed new power,masybe she'll get even better,it's too soon to talk about her power level,but it won't matter if writters aren't consistent,if they show her being very powerful in some issues,it won't matter if the next issues they let street level characters humiliate her,the only thing i want,is that writters treat her properly,don't fall into inconsistencies,PIS isn't hard to avoid.

Why do we need to know how fast the attacks she blocks are going? This is not an episode of Dragon Ball Z. (which is a fine show) Honestly who even cares?

Nothing short of Wonder Woman destroying a planet with her fist will satisfy? Why are feats so important to you anyway. What superhero character has feats that impress you? Wonder Woman clearly can stand up to any challenge all the other heavy hitters can... I would hate to sacrifice good storytelling and dialog inorder for wonder woman to become like a superman cookie cutter comicbook and break stuff any chance she can get.

FYI Wonder Woman has never been humiliated by any street level character.

I think the new 52 Wonder Woman is perfect.

#140 Posted by fodigg (6146 posts) - - Show Bio

Did Wonder Woman just go all Rock Lee on someone?

I approve. I love the idea of her having a "demigod mode" and that her bracers keep her power contained the majority of the time.

#141 Posted by Captain13 (3450 posts) - - Show Bio

@WDW said:

I think the new 52 Wonder Woman is perfect.

#142 Posted by Lvenger (20864 posts) - - Show Bio

@WDW said:

@gokuwarrior said:

@matchesmalone21: thanks for the scans,but still nothing impresive,the attacks that she blocked,how fast are those attacks?super sonic?,hyper sonic?,light speed?,nothing to be impresive if we don't know how fast those attacks are.

she was struggling against that rock,and it wasn't that big.

and she didn't show too much of that supposed new power,masybe she'll get even better,it's too soon to talk about her power level,but it won't matter if writters aren't consistent,if they show her being very powerful in some issues,it won't matter if the next issues they let street level characters humiliate her,the only thing i want,is that writters treat her properly,don't fall into inconsistencies,PIS isn't hard to avoid.

Why do we need to know how fast the attacks she blocks are going? This is not an episode of Dragon Ball Z. (which is a fine show) Honestly who even cares?

Nothing short of Wonder Woman destroying a planet with her fist will satisfy? Why are feats so important to you anyway. What superhero character has feats that impress you? Wonder Woman clearly can stand up to any challenge all the other heavy hitters can... I would hate to sacrifice good storytelling and dialog inorder for wonder woman to become like a superman cookie cutter comicbook and break stuff any chance she can get.

FYI Wonder Woman has never been humiliated by any street level character.

I think the new 52 Wonder Woman is perfect.

I definitely agree with you here. Wonder Woman's in a good place at the moment. The New 52 has been kind to her in that regard. The story, the changes to her universe e.g the modern interpretations of the Olympians and adding Orion and the New Gods to the mix as well as capturing what makes Wonder Woman a brilliant character have all been achieved. However, issue 12 is probably gonna spark some major debate about whether Wonder Woman unleashed can beat Superman.

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@WDW: how can you say that?,dbz has nothing to do with this,and they never really said how fast dbz characters are.

but going back to the topic,wonder woman isn't a street level character,if she blocks something as fast as a bullet is not impresive for a powerhouse,because almost every street level character can do that,pre 52 wonder woman was able to block and dodge very,very fast attacks,she had at least nano second reaction speed,which is incredibly fast,so it's important to know how fast she can react in the new 52.

pre 52 wonder woman was able to move 1/3 of the earth,see her struggling against a giagant rock in the new 52 isn't a good think.

she can be very powerful and also have a good and interesting story,so everything matters,her power level and the story,everythinh must be well written,consistent and balanced.

#144 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio
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@gokuwarrior said:

how can you say that?,dbz has nothing to do with this,and they never really said how fast dbz characters are.

Dragon Ball Z uses power-levels which clearly define each characters powers. All there attacks have specific names and abilities so its easy to rank the feats and measure the characters abilities. It seems in your arguments that you want some sort of definitive proof of Wonder Womans power like how they do in DBZ. That's why I made the comment

but going back to the topic,wonder woman isn't a street level character,if she blocks something as fast as a bullet is not impresive for a powerhouse,because almost every street level character can do that,pre 52 wonder woman was able to block and dodge very,very fast attacks,she had at least nano second reaction speed,which is incredibly fast,so it's important to know how fast she can react in the new 52.

Yeah and to this I say who really cares. Unless they show Wonder Woman failing to block something or some person reacting faster than her, you can't just assume she is at street level and can do no better than whats seen on panel. No upper limit of her abilities have been established. Just because its not shown YET does not mean she reached her limits. For instance what does PRE 52 Wonder Woman do that's so impressive in Perez run from issue 1 to 60? We are only 12 issues into Wonder Woman. Why cram all her feats into 12 issues? Why go over the top right from the getgo? Her stories are great and I am impressed with her feats and stories

pre 52 wonder woman was able to move 1/3 of the earth,see her struggling against a giagant rock in the new 52 isn't a good think.

More like bracing herself and protecting Zola. Again until you see her being injured by a rock or something you cant just assume her upper limits of power is established.

she can be very powerful and also have a good and interesting story,so everything matters,her power level and the story,everythinh must be well written,consistent and balanced.

I find her stories very balanced and enjoyable and the numbers show that many many others do as well.

#146 Posted by WDW (1514 posts) - - Show Bio

@Adnan said:

I'm told her...well, I dunno what to call it, her superpowered mode, is something she had in the golden age comics. Not sure if that's true or not but it's definitely neat. Didn't she have her bracelets off before though? She wasn't wearing them when she was getting "married" to Hades.

in the golden age if she took off her bracers she would pretty much lose her mind and run amuck destroying thing and acting very badly. It also gave her heightened strength.

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Diana receiving her blessing of flight from Hermes
#149 Edited by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@WDW: dbz only tells if a character is a planet buster or multi planet buster,they never stated how fast and strong they are,some fans speculate too much,saying they are all faster than light,and can move planets with pure strenght,but that's not true.

but this has nothing to do with dbz,blocking artemis attacks doesn't show how fast she is,until she blocks or dodges something very,very fast we don't know if she still has her

her high level of reaction speed,facing a gigant rock isn't impresive either,i never said that this is her limit,i just said that she still doesn't have impresive feats compared to pre 52 wonder woman,we still have to wait,i know it's too soon to talk about her power level in the new 52,and that's my point.

and i hope she doesn't need to take off her bracelets to use the powers she has from zeus blood,it's better if she can use those powers anytime,anyplace like the real semi-goddess that she is supposed to be now.

#150 Posted by WDW (1514 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior said:

@WDW: blocking artemis attacks doesn't show how fast she is,until she blocks or dodges something very,very fast we don't know if she still has her

her high level of reaction speed,facing a gigant rock isn't impresive either,i never said that this is her limit,i just said that she still doesn't have impresive feats compared to pre 52 wonder woman,we still have to wait,i know it's too soon to talk about her power level in the new 52,and that's my point.

and i hope she doesn't need to take off her bracelets to use the powers she has from zeus blood,it's better if she can use those powers anytime,anyplace like the real semi-goddess that she is supposed to be now.

ok because I went back and looked at the first 12 issues of of perez run. To me it seems that so far the new 52 Wonder Woman could beat the crap out of pre 52 Wonder Woman if we just count the first 12 issues of PRE 52 perez run and New 52.