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#1 Edited by uugieboogie (2785 posts) - - Show Bio

As you can see on the cover of an upcoming Avengers comic he'll have his metal arm or destroyer arm.. Will this arm increase his strength? Or do you think he'll be more like Winter Soldier & be depowered with a metal arm? His wardrobe definitely looks just like Young Thors clothing. Hopefully he'll still have his powers he'll just be even more badass with an axe & metal arm ;)

#2 Edited by Jonny_Anonymous (33897 posts) - - Show Bio

@uugieboogie: Tom Brevoort said he has all the powers he would normally have without the hammer

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#3 Posted by Comicdude360 (1764 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm still kind of sketchy about all the stunts marvel is trying to pull off.

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#4 Posted by ripcurl (535 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonny_anonymous:

Does that include the lightning?

The weather control comes from Mjolnir right? Just wondering.

And no, I don't think he'll be any stronger.

#5 Edited by uugieboogie (2785 posts) - - Show Bio

@ripcurl: the weather manipulation & earth manipulation was all Thor . You didn't see young Thor make it rain fire ?

#6 Posted by uugieboogie (2785 posts) - - Show Bio

@uugieboogie: Tom Brevoort said he has all the powers he would normally have without the hammer

That has definitely been confirmed?

I'm still kind of sketchy about all the stunts marvel is trying to pull off.

Yeah it feels forced, like they're trying to hard. I still think changing Thor to a female was a mistake, they could at least let him keep his old name. They could have started a run with Sif or Angela or his granddaughters from he future.

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#8 Posted by Lvenger (20704 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonny_anonymous: @uugieboogie: That's what Aaron said as well at SDCC. Though I personally won't be following any further news on Female Thor and Unworthy Thor since I'll just get grouchy and annoyed every time.

#9 Edited by uugieboogie (2785 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: So will "unworthy thor" be in a whole separate title? Or he won't have a comic?

#10 Edited by Lvenger (20704 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: So will "unworthy thor" be in a whole separate title? Or he won't have a comic?

Aaron also said at his SDCC panel that Unworthy Thor would be in the same comic as Female Thor. But he'd be getting less screen time to allow Female Thor more of the limelight -_-

#11 Posted by Jayc1324 (12788 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't see why he doesn't just grow his arm back.

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#12 Posted by Jayc1324 (12788 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: that makes me not want to buy it. I have some interest in the unworthy thor story but I don't want to have to read female Thor stories to get it.

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#13 Posted by cameron83 (7504 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324 said:

I don't see why he doesn't just grow his arm back.

He can do that??

#14 Edited by Lvenger (20704 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324 said:

@lvenger: that makes me not want to buy it. I have some interest in the unworthy thor story but I don't want to have to read female Thor stories to get it.

I spent a lot of time raging over Superior Spider-Man whilst it was out so I don't want to waste time raging against this either. But yeah Aaron isn't putting out a separate book for Unworthy Thor because it's not like he's popular enough to hold his own title right?

#15 Posted by Jayc1324 (12788 posts) - - Show Bio

@cameron83: Yes with magic and he has his own healing factor.

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#16 Posted by Jayc1324 (12788 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: but apparently this female Thor is popular enough to be the lead in a book featuring the real Thor.

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#17 Posted by Lvenger (20704 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324 said:

@lvenger: but apparently this female Thor is popular enough to be the lead in a book featuring the real Thor.

Yep, more people are totally going to stay rather than want to see the original Thor back in the role with Mjolnir in his possession again.

#18 Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (2008 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: I really don't understand your rage. You know this won't last these things never do. Plus Aaron has consistently put out one of the best Marvel titles and run on Thor's every single issue. This is a little weird but at least it's something different just like Superior was (and I know about your feelings on that but I digress).

#19 Posted by uugieboogie (2785 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324: @lvenger: I must admit the metal arm does make him look badass but at one point in time couldn't thor use mjolnir to re grow entire limbs ?

#20 Posted by Jayc1324 (12788 posts) - - Show Bio

@uugieboogie: it does look cool, but I'd prefer for only king Thor to use it. Current Thor should have both arms like he always has since the beginning. It will just look weird seeing him like that all the time.

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#21 Edited by uugieboogie (2785 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324: I'm guessing were actually going to see a progression of Thor now . But what I don't get is how someone as durable as Thor even loses an arm . Oh & on the cover of TGOT that's not his metal arm it's just armor so I wonder if he'll lose his arm in that issue or no .

#22 Posted by Winter_Kills (547 posts) - - Show Bio

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@lvenger said:

@uugieboogie said:

@lvenger: So will "unworthy thor" be in a whole separate title? Or he won't have a comic?

Aaron also said at his SDCC panel that Unworthy Thor would be in the same comic as Female Thor. But he'd be getting less screen time to allow Female Thor more of the limelight -_-

@jayc1324 said:

@lvenger: that makes me not want to buy it. I have some interest in the unworthy thor story but I don't want to have to read female Thor stories to get it.

I agree with both of you guy; so-called "unworthy" Thor is way more interesting & way more badass than Fem-Thor. I just don't want to have to trudge through the idiocy with this female analogue to get the story about him. Like you said @lvenger, it would just annoy & aggravate me.

@jonny_anonymous said:

@uugieboogie: Tom Brevoort said he has all the powers he would normally have without the hammer

That has definitely been confirmed?

@comicdude360 said:

I'm still kind of sketchy about all the stunts marvel is trying to pull off.

Yeah it feels forced, like they're trying to hard. I still think changing Thor to a female was a mistake, they could at least let him keep his old name. They could have started a run with Sif or Angela or his granddaughters from he future.

I agree with this too. I would rather read a separate series about "unworthy" Thor than suffer through She-Thor just so I can read about the REAL Thor. Like you said, Thor is his NAME. It's who he IS. Someone else running around with the name Thor(which doesn't even fit a woman, & doesn't go in line with Norse mythology as he is the representation of masculine strength & power) feels like a form of identity theft. Thor will always be Thor, & to me he'll always be worthy. And so-called "Unworthy" Thor looks WAY more badass than Thor chick. If I was a villain(empowered with Asgardian magic, like the Wrecker or something), I would rather fight Fem-Thor than him, Mjolnir or no Mjolnir- "Unworthy" Thor looks like he would split your freakin' skull. That's who we want to read about- the ONE, TRUE THOR. Marvel's powerhead & legendary badass.

#23 Posted by uugieboogie (2785 posts) - - Show Bio

@winter_kills: I agree with that 100% . It feel like identity theft . Thor is not a mantle like Capt America this is his birth name & who he is .

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#25 Posted by Winter_Kills (547 posts) - - Show Bio

@winter_kills: I agree with that 100% . It feel like identity theft . Thor is not a mantle like Capt America this is his birth name & who he is .

Exactly. they tried this before during the Eric Masterson days, but even then he often said he was trying to find "the REAL Thor". It just really rubs me the wrong way when they say that's this chick is gonna be the "one and only Thor". No, Thor is the ONE & ONLY Thor & always will be. This was addressed even back during the Eric Masterson days. (Coincidentally, She-Thor wears a helmet that covers her eyes, just like Masterson did.) But, the Masterson thing luckily didn't last long, & hopefully this farce won't either,(maybe it'll not even be as long as the Masterson saga) & the real ONE TRUE Thor will be back.

#26 Posted by uugieboogie (2785 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: @jayc1324: @winter_kills: Honestly no matter what they say were still going to see THOR ODINSON as the true Thor & everyone will call this imposter She-Thor lol it's inevitable

#27 Posted by Winter_Kills (547 posts) - - Show Bio

@uugieboogie: Exactly. I feel like this is a controversial move for PR that will run its course, & the REAL Thor will be back. And like you said, no matter what, whether he is supposedly "unworthy" or not, he will always be the one, true Thor to the fans, & she will be see as nothing but a female imposter with no legacy of her own beyond that.

#28 Posted by uugieboogie (2785 posts) - - Show Bio

@winter_kills: that's why if they wanted a female character they should've just ran with one they already have . I really want Thor's grand daughters to have a comic .

#29 Posted by Lvenger (20704 posts) - - Show Bio

@winter_kills: @uugieboogie: I agree but Breevoort has continuously prompted offers of bets on Tumblr and Twitter that these changes won't be short, temporary PR stunts reversed in time for the movies. There must be something to him doing that after all.

#30 Posted by uugieboogie (2785 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: I don't think they'll last . Ppl will buy the first two to see how it is & Thor gets low screen time ppl will stop . Avengers might go up in sales .

#31 Posted by Lvenger (20704 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: I really don't understand your rage. You know this won't last these things never do. Plus Aaron has consistently put out one of the best Marvel titles and run on Thor's every single issue. This is a little weird but at least it's something different just like Superior was (and I know about your feelings on that but I digress).

I have written my thoughts on a blog already so I won't repeat myself fully here. My main point of contention is that the new female Thor is actually replacing Thor in name and identity. It's an entirely bogus move because Thor is not a mantle to be passed down, it's the identity of who Thor is. Replacing She-Thor with Thor Odinson is akin to Lois Lane replacing Clark Kent as the Last Survivor of the Planet Krypton. It makes no sense to take over someone's identity completely just to pander needlessly to a false sense of diversity. Worst of all, Thor Odinson's character is unnecessarily ruined and female Thor will be solely defined as being the female version of Thor. Once this gimmick ends and the real Thor comes back, her time will be rendered pointless.

@jayc1324: @lvenger: I must admit the metal arm does make him look badass but at one point in time couldn't thor use mjolnir to re grow entire limbs ?

Well he can't use it as of October so that possibility is out the window.

#32 Posted by uugieboogie (2785 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: even king Thor lost his arm . I don't get how someone as durable as him loses an entire limb . I like how it looks but I don't like the fact it can happen .

#33 Posted by Winter_Kills (547 posts) - - Show Bio

@winter_kills: that's why if they wanted a female character they should've just ran with one they already have . I really want Thor's grand daughters to have a comic .

Exactly. If they just gave his granddaughter a book, I'd be down with that.

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@winter_kills: @uugieboogie: I agree but Breevoort has continuously prompted offers of bets on Tumblr and Twitter that these changes won't be short, temporary PR stunts reversed in time for the movies. There must be something to him doing that after all.

I agree, there probably is- but when sales take a dive, that tune will change. He's trying to talk a good game.

@lvenger: I don't think they'll last . Ppl will buy the first two to see how it is & Thor gets low screen time ppl will stop . Avengers might go up in sales .

I agree. When they see the change is becoming unpopular, & sales take a dive- they'll find a way to change things back & fast. I expect it to last as long as the Eric Masterson run did, if that.

#34 Edited by Lvenger (20704 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: even king Thor lost his arm . I don't get how someone as durable as him loses an entire limb . I like how it looks but I don't like the fact it can happen .

Same here, I don't like that this awful route is how we get the badass old King Thor.

#35 Edited by Ms-Lola (3194 posts) - - Show Bio

I am looking forward to acquainting myself with a Thor who has never received the Mjolnir and yet is still a powerful warrior and god in his own right. Or maybe a Thor who never expected to receive the Mjolnir due to the new Thor being presented as the genuine Thor. He might be the Warriors Three In One for the new Thor. I am curious as to how Sif fits in all of this.

Either way, as long as they keep the original Thor within the same confines of his character, I am in for the long haul. If he becomes a brainless neanderthal who comes up short all the time instead of progressing, then I won't be as forgiving with this new direction.

#36 Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (2008 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Well Thor will still be Thor he isn't losing his name. It's the same deal as when Thor was no longer worthy of the hammer and Eric Masterson wielded it. He was called Thor even if he wasn't The Odinson the whole link to Superman doesn't really partake to this thing. It is also similar to when Bruce was no longer gamma irradiated and Red Hulk and Skaar were called the Hulk. I believe that with Thor becoming unworthy we will see a nice new character arc for him dealing with this and eventually becoming worthy again and a nice change of pace with someone else wielding the hammer. This has happened before with Eric Masterson and Thor came out alright this was under the pen of Tom Defalco I believe and Jason Aaron run on Thor is better than Defalco's that's for sure. All I have left to say is "don't knock it till you try it"

#37 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33897 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Well Thor will still be Thor he isn't losing his name. It's the same deal as when Thor was no longer worthy of the hammer and Eric Masterson wielded it. He was called Thor even if he wasn't The Odinson the whole link to Superman doesn't really partake to this thing. It is also similar to when Bruce was no longer gamma irradiated and Red Hulk and Skaar were called the Hulk. I believe that with Thor becoming unworthy we will see a nice new character arc for him dealing with this and eventually becoming worthy again and a nice change of pace with someone else wielding the hammer. This has happened before with Eric Masterson and Thor came out alright this was under the pen of Tom Defalco I believe and Jason Aaron run on Thor is better than Defalco's that's for sure. All I have left to say is "don't knock it till you try it"

It's not the same, Eric Masterson was pretending to be Thor until the real Thor was found, he wasn't saying he was the new Thor. Also yes there is many Hulks, and there has been many Captain AMericas but these are mantels and superhero names. Thor is his first name, it's his actual identity. This is like if Peter Parker lost his spider powers and MJ gained them, instead of calling herself the new Spider-Man (or woman) she starts calling her self the new Peter Parker, it doesn't even make sense.

Now if they really wanted to tell as story about Thor losing his worthiness and a woman replacing him then fine, that could be cool. But the fact that there is already existing female characters that are perfect for the role and in a dire need of a push get totally snubbed for some new character that doesn't even have her own name or look is just bullsh!t. All this is doing is perpetuating the idea that female characters can't stand on there own and will forever ride on the coattails of male heros.

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#38 Edited by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (2008 posts) - - Show Bio

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@lvenger: Well Thor will still be Thor he isn't losing his name. It's the same deal as when Thor was no longer worthy of the hammer and Eric Masterson wielded it. He was called Thor even if he wasn't The Odinson the whole link to Superman doesn't really partake to this thing. It is also similar to when Bruce was no longer gamma irradiated and Red Hulk and Skaar were called the Hulk. I believe that with Thor becoming unworthy we will see a nice new character arc for him dealing with this and eventually becoming worthy again and a nice change of pace with someone else wielding the hammer. This has happened before with Eric Masterson and Thor came out alright this was under the pen of Tom Defalco I believe and Jason Aaron run on Thor is better than Defalco's that's for sure. All I have left to say is "don't knock it till you try it"

It's not the same, Eric Masterson was pretending to be Thor until the real Thor was found, he wasn't saying he was the new Thor. Also yes there is many Hulks, and there has been many Captain AMericas but these are mantels and superhero names. Thor is his first name, it's his actual identity. This is like if Peter Parker lost his spider powers and MJ gained them, instead of calling herself the new Spider-Man (or woman) she starts calling her self the new Peter Parker, it doesn't even make sense.

Now if they really wanted to tell as story about Thor losing his worthiness and a woman replacing him then fine, that could be cool. But the fact that there is already existing female characters that are perfect for the role and in a dire need of a push get totally snubbed for some new character that doesn't even have her own name or look is just bullsh!t. All this is doing is perpetuating the idea that female characters can't stand on there own and will forever ride on the coattails of male heros.

Exactly Thor in a sense is a hero name. Beta Ray Bill was called Beta Ray Thor and Eric Masterson did take Thor's place and although never fully proclaimed to be Thor in a sense he was a new Thor as he was viewed as Thor in the superhero community and the Asgardians . Using the excuse that it's his name well Hulk's name is Hulk in a sense but that still doesn't mean anything. She will not be called Thor odinson just Thor. It isn't that big of a deal it's also just like on Earth 2 Val Zod will become the new Superman it's a mantle to pass down. Thor is a name and a Mantle she will look like Thor and have his Power just like Eric Masterson so in a sense she will be the new Thor. She will not be Thor Odinson because there is only one Thor Odinson but if they do call her Thor Odindaughter then there shall come a reckoning Marvel.

I do agree that it shouldn't have been a new character. I would've picked Sif or Valkyrie to be the female character to lift it.

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#40 Posted by ivar17 (119 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: @uugieboogie: no regular Axe its Jarnbjorn who cuts celestials...

Aaron at SDCC also said when asked that he still controls the weather Mjolnir was a way to canalize it...

I hate the chick with hammer idea no matter who she is, be if she is not Asgardian its a offense...

If is Jane Foster (Human) how this questions are answered?

Will Mjolnir give Jane Foster Strength, Speed, Durability stamina etc?

But what about the Fighting Skills ?, She is not a Warrior, she doesn't have battle experience, she knows what valhalla means?

Can she go into space??? Without Properly equipment like Asgardians?

#41 Posted by THORSON (2486 posts) - - Show Bio

marvel doesn't like to see THOR being strong

#42 Posted by Lvenger (20704 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Well Thor will still be Thor he isn't losing his name. It's the same deal as when Thor was no longer worthy of the hammer and Eric Masterson wielded it. He was called Thor even if he wasn't The Odinson the whole link to Superman doesn't really partake to this thing. It is also similar to when Bruce was no longer gamma irradiated and Red Hulk and Skaar were called the Hulk. I believe that with Thor becoming unworthy we will see a nice new character arc for him dealing with this and eventually becoming worthy again and a nice change of pace with someone else wielding the hammer. This has happened before with Eric Masterson and Thor came out alright this was under the pen of Tom Defalco I believe and Jason Aaron run on Thor is better than Defalco's that's for sure. All I have left to say is "don't knock it till you try it"

I don't want to try it because it's a bad idea, it's unnecessary in the first place and Aaron was doing perfectly fine with the original Thor. Now he's ruined his run and potential awesome 9 Realms War with the PR stunt female replacement for Thor. Also Skaar was never called The Hulk at all, he was just Son of Hulk, not the Hulk himself. And I fail to see how this is a nice change of pace as Thor is being replaced for the second time in the space of 2 years (Tanarus in Fraction's run.) Marvel are being repetitive and attempting to introduce diversity for diversity's sake rather than make new characters capable of standing on their own two feet as their own people. As Jonny said earlier, it's perpetuating the idea that female characters can't stand on there own and will forever ride on the backsides of male heroes.

#43 Posted by Jmarshmallow (8897 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know about stronger, but she'll have boobs.

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#44 Posted by uugieboogie (2785 posts) - - Show Bio

@jmarshmallow: no I'm referring to male Thor with the metal arm .

#45 Posted by uugieboogie (2785 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonny_anonymous: @theincrediblesuperhulk8642: that's the thing it isn't a mantle . Captain America is a mantle , Iron Man is a mantle , Hulk is a mantle .. All these characters have different names from their superhero names . Thor's name is THOR . & the different with Eric Masterson at least original Thor wasn't really around for that , thor will be around for this . So two ppl will be called Thor in the same comic ? Or are they going to strip him of his name & call her Thor ? That's where it gets stupid .

#46 Edited by ivar17 (119 posts) - - Show Bio

He will not fly .... But with Jarnbjorn close levels of power...

He looks bad-ass in Times Run Out Where is the Chick???

#47 Posted by Z3RO180 (6618 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok seriously am I the only one who is annoyed that his belt is a rope !

#48 Posted by Z3RO180 (6618 posts) - - Show Bio

So in that picture we have Captain Falcon, Hobo Thor, Old man Steve, Havok...maybe and a smart hulk.

#49 Posted by ivar17 (119 posts) - - Show Bio

@z3ro180 said:

Ok seriously am I the only one who is annoyed that his belt is a rope !

You maybe have a point there in mythology Thor has a belt that gives him the double of power...

But this is Marvel Now...

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@z3ro180 said:

So in that picture we have Captain Falcon, Hobo Thor, Old man Steve, Havok...maybe and a smart hulk.

The other side