@supermudz: I had a quarrel with you, for the way you started your comment, but I kept reading and you dispersed my quarrels, but at the end you failed again, overall I aprove your comment and I am atheist. My opinion mirror's those of @haveatthee.
My initial quarrel was triggered by this:
No offense, but would people stop with this nonsense? Christians don't give a crap about using fictional or pagan deities for entertainment. That's what they were always used for.
Some does bro, and those who do, are the ones who speaks loud about it, they see their jimmies being attacked, so they respond back, people like you don't mind it, so you don't comment about. Don't know why you thought this was against your particular beliefs tho, 'cause it could be for anyone in any religion, but in this case you are right, writters personal bias lend them to ruin what makes Thor interesting, thus to be involved in The Avengers, it's the very reason of his existence, Stan Lee created him for that very reason "How to make someone stronger than the strongest guy (The Hulk), and the reason came to me, don't make him a man, make him a God...".
That even allow us to use the "because he is a God" argument, as Stan Lee even used it to create him, so it's a foundational argument, and can give us the basic notion that Thor should be stronger than Hulk, as he was created to be that way.
Your general arguments around the following, eased my mind, because man, I'm there with you in the same points:
- Oh, they're Norse gods? Wrong! They're not gods, they're just extra-dimensional immortal aliens with god-like powers, because that's totally different!
- Magic? Oh, we totally understand all that stuff, because science is awesome, and humans are all leet with science, so we know everything! Dark energy! (Which is totally not magic.)
This and all that followed was perfect, I think the same.
I have to remind you that I'm an atheist, tho I respect people's religions. If they don't shove their things down my throat, then I wouldn't have anything against no one. I always loved Thor from the Norse Mythos as a kid, my mother is ceramist and when I was a kid she was doing Viking Runes from a book publication on the Norse Oracle, I played with runes as a kid and read a lot of mythic stuff from this books, as they had a lot of drawings and paintings about the Gods and so, I loved all of it, my first heroes were Hercules from the Greek Mythos (graphic novels about the mythos itself) and The Phantom (from the weekly news and tv shows), alongside with He-Man and Thundercats, I liked also Batman and Superman, but Goku became a far more interesting character for me, because besides all the weird stuff he was a more relatable human being, you wanted to be friend of someone like him, tell jokes and laugh a lot, eat amazingly and take on adventures, Superman in the other hand...
So in the 90's, when Marvel was in their worst time, the only thing that made them survive, were their outstanding animated TV shows, Amazing Spiderman, Incredible Hulk, X-Men and Iron Man (this last not much but a bit too), all these shows amazed me a lot, they were Gokulike in the kind of thing that they were more real, that hook me up into Marvel's team, even when I loved Batman Forever and some DC shows, Marvel was always on top, and the Incredible Hulk show introduced me to Thor, I almost cried, it was like "daaamn, they have Thor in Marvel, DC is screwed" kind of thought xDDD
Since then, I'm a big Thor fan. I love him being a God and all, I don't mind not believing in Gods, is what makes him appealing I love mysticism, magic and all that mythic epic stuff.
We stomped out that religion centuries ago and converted all its followers, we're not worried about hurting their freaking feelings.
This is the type of commentary that was unnecessary on your part, yes you (Christianized Roman Empire, aka The Church) smacked them down, turned most of them into your religion by fear and burned down those who oppossed or keep the practice alive in private, for the crime of being Satan's worshipers and witches. Yet Neo-paganism is alive today, some of those traditions survived, people kept them safe and it was reassembled and reinterpreted to become a new religion, that pays respect to and praise these deities.
So yes, you could be hurting their feelings. You can claim they are minorities, yet they exist and deserves the same respect you want people to give you, me myself are part of the main group of these religious folks in my country, I'm with them because I support them and like all they do, I always have good times with them, they are amazing people that aren't shoving things down my throat or want me to believe the stuff they do. Their religion is now kind of atheistic as buddhism, the Gods are just the forces of nature, they harness upon these energies when they do magic rituals and so, as much as one can harness from own's emotions, and the magic they practice has an interesting psicology behind.
So to respond, Thor is and should be kept as a God.
To your infromation and this isn't against you or any belief system, but most believers who says Thor isn't a God, is because he isn't omnipotent as their Yahwe, omniscient as their Jehova or omnipresent as their Alah, and as there are beings like Phoenix Force, Galactus, Eternity and TLT and these "gods" ranks below, they aren't other than extra-dimensional immortal aliens with god-like powers. I too, have huge problems with the freaking "magic in Marvel is just advanced science and Gods are just aliens" mantra. The godlike alien belongs to the other company.
Even Living Tribunal created a chamber in the Infinity Embassy called The Council of Godheads, in which Zeus can talk to Ahura Mazda, or Osiris can chat with Dagda, or Odin with Shiva, about the biggest problems in the universe, while all being the brightest sparks of TOAA himself, the freaking creator of all the Omniverse, Marvel's Yahwe/Jehova/Alah.
THOR IS A GOD. THOR IS THE GOD OF THUNDER.
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