Thor becoming unworthy

i am all right with everything and think that it could be very interesting

IFThor loses mjolnir through some trickery or somebody decides to take it from him who has greater power

i would not be ok if he loses it through him doing something or proving unworthy by his own means because how could he after this series he has shown that he is more than worthy he is selfless in the hole series

i was hoping they could do something like Angela is revealed but he is then fighting the angels losing his arm by the somehow and then Odin decides he his unworthy for releasing the evil of the tenth realm (on the cover it shows Odin is back) and cast him of so Thor is trying to become worthy again while someone finds or Angela gets his hammer

I would be completely fine with this then

NOT A BATTLE NOT A BATTLE NOT A BATTLE NOT A BATTLE. NOT A BATTLE.

@johnnyz256: i know i just relized it was in battles how do i move it

Apparently the mods did it for you.

@johnnyz256: nah i figured it out

@coolcat4: I don't get how ANYONE can even wield it since it's bound to his life force . How can you now be worthy of something you practically one with ?

@uugieboogie: yeah its just a stupid idea. Jason Aarons current Thor series spent so much time developing Thor into a true hero and putting his pride behind him and being truly worhty and this just takes that all away.

I also hate that another person is being added to the list of people who can lift Thor's hammer... Its not even special anymore

@jayc1324: I CAN'T see him being unworthy especially after the events that transpired over that last few issues . All I can see is if maybe he accidents cuts too loose & kills somebody or something in the next issue . Or his new love interest is killed & he killed whoever killed her or just feels bad that he couldn't save her & he feels himself to be unworthy & gives up mjolnir . I can only see him loosing if is if he determines he's not worthy or he gives it up .

@uugieboogie: yeah that would make more sense. Like in the avengers movie where he couldn't lift it after letting Loki desrory the helicarrier and escaping. He's already proved he is worthy, it would only make sense if he didn't believe he was anymore.

Let's just hope Jason Aaron knows this as well

@jayc1324: I just hope they don't try to take away his powers from him

i never thought about it in that way. I assume Odin has power over it. but when Odin dies, THOR will have complete power.

hypothetically, if THOR is king, he'd have control if he's worthy or not.

@thorson: If your power is just as great as odin's or exceeds it you can lift it without being worthy

I think this is a good idea. People believe that the Hammer makes the god and to be honest they're not wrong, Thor relies too much on the hammer that everyone believes that if he ever loses it in battle he'll totally be useless. So what if Marvel makes a new series for Thor that shows him being able to compete with many heavy hitters even without his precious hammer. Wouldn't that be cool especially feat wise!?

Also in regards to his power if you know Thor and have read his database you'll know that not everything Thor has came from his hammer..His Superhuman abilities, Energy Manipulation, Longevity, Super Breath are all his power whether or not he has Mjolnir..

Yeah, i'm piss that Marvel ruin whole characters but maybe, just maybe this is finally Thor's chance to show that he is still bad ass without Mjölnir. That lazy son of a bitch could finally learn to use his powers properly, and maybe learn some new tricks?

ya i was very upset for a while but then i realized thor could just do some cool things i probably wont read female thor but if it is done right and thor loses or feels he is unworthy for good reasons

The key thing to remember is that Odin is the one who decides who is worthy of Thor's hammer and anyone who's been reading Thor knows that Odin is a bit of a dick, so there are any number of reasons for him to decide Thor is unworthy, hell he may not even give a reason. Odin has done crap like this before.

@joshmightbe: ya but i would be ok with that its better than thor just losing his worthiness by his actions because i cant see that

@coolcat4: I'd just love it if they used it to get Real Thor in touch with his birth mom's side of things. See you have new Thor being all occupied with the duties of being Thunder God and then the real Thor has time to meet with Geia, maybe get in touch with his Elder God heritage and gain new power or at least a new power level.

@joshmightbe: ya i never thought about that but it would be incredible maybe fight some powerful beings in the process

@coolcat4: I've always felt like they've had this huge mass of wasted story potential surrounding Thor and Geia. I know they bring it up every now and then but they never do anything with it. And it could go way deeper than just powers, for instance she basically just let Odin take her son to be raised by another woman, Geia could have stopped Odin easily. So they have built in extra dramatic potential.

I'm pretty ticked off about this whole thing myself

Marvel having a new prominent powerful female character does not bother me at all. The current run Thor: God of Thunder has been one of my favorite runs on any comic ever and I will admit to not having been the biggest reader of Thor in the past. Thor's' stature as a hero has only been elevated in my eyes and not lowered. What bothers me is there will be some lame contrived event or disaster when suddenly Thor will become unworthy. Marvel is making quite a PR show about having more diversity gender equality. I just see this whole thing as one big PR stunt and depending on how successful this is will determint how long it lasts.

it has nothing to do with power. where did you get this from?

Mehhh he'll eventually gets the hammer back.

I think its over done idea we had this story line already he became worthy again. We called that Thor 1.

wow he has saved the universe how many times?

Very bad plot device it just shames him yet again.

How many times does a hero have to fall from grace.

If Spiderman fell from grace any more times he would have a place foot here mark on his back.

Well the hole thing makes no sense because Odin did away with that at the end of the Thunder Strike series. Nobody should be able to gain the power of Thor any longer. Does anybody read comics.

Ok we know at some point according to Thor: God of Thunder he gets the hammer back because he had when he faced gorr in the far future

Because beings more powerful than Odin have done this in the past. I believe the Serpent was capable of this actually. The idea is that if you have power greater than Odin's then you are capable of bypassing or overriding his enchantment of the hammer in order to lift it.

I just do not like the fact that Odin did away with the enchantment and suddenly its back somehow. I do like the fact that it was made in the heart of a dying star and could be to heavy for anybody to lift other then Thor and that would be nice. So if you cannot press over 200 thousand tons or more do not even attempt lifting Mjolnir it would not work.

The idea of Thor becoming unworthy is ridiculous.

Let alone from a dirty little secret whispered into his ear by Nick Fury.

We've had five decades of stories proving Thor's worthiness. If he were to do something unimaginable or despicable to precipitate his unworthiness I could see it, but this entire concept that the Marvel brass have dreamed up is rather childish.

I think it's an interesting move, it's a chance to see what Thor can do without a weapon that's more of a plot swiss army knife.

In regards to the 'bound to his lifeforce' topic, if I am not mistaken, that is something that only comes into play if Mjolnir is seriously damaged (as it was when killing Bor). The hammer is not bound to Thor in the sense that his life depends on its presence (otherwise he would never be able to put it down or throw it).

Might I ask why it's ridiculous? In the past Thor was after all enough of a prick Odin thought the enchantment was needed to set him back on the right path.

funny that he would trust his life in the hands of somebody else. If something happens to the hammer he could die. That is pretty bad. Odin removed the enchantment that gave away the power of Thor after the Eric saga he ;promised never again.

I'd have to say that atm, he doesn't really have any options. Either Mjolnir is going to be stuck on the moon where anything could happen to it, Cap or Herc is going to take it with them and store it somewhere or someone is going to wield it being just as risky as it is when Thor wields it.

If that is the case... well it's not the first time marvel has done an unannounced recon (see the difference between JMS' Odin and Fraction's). Also there is the option that the All-Mothers have a hand in this, re-powering either the enchantment or copying it before handing it off to whoever the woman is or leaving it for her to find.

well we seen unworthy Thor already why the recap of a old story and the pass it on to Eric and nobody liked that as well.

I mean this is not a new idea people did not like it before.

Only this time they want to give his name away.

Captain America lifted his hammer in the past I do not see why he could not lift it again.

its not the same risking your own life as opposed to somebody else risking your life

@arthurkerr: Maybe not. But still, Thor has little choice in the matter and lets not forget that Mjolnir is extremely durable, possibly one of the most durable items in the MU. And I wouldn't consider it part of Thor's nature to go around and worry about his health and safety.

not the same when mutants can tear apart things atom by atom and put them back together when ever they want.

A weapon should never make the hero a hero makes the weapon.

That is why Thor trumps Female Thor without the hammer he still holds the power of Thor because he is Thor.

Then again if they wanted Thor trashed by a purple purse using Telatubby it would happen.

Hold my purse he would scream nobody comes into my house without a hall pass. ( Thor gets a beat down by purple Tellatubby. Hey look how easy that was , Then the Tellatubba is worthy and picks up the hammer and uses it to fight crime and we call it Thor not purple anything.

Because you destroy Thor saying anybody worthy is Thor like enough worthy people around and you have 200 or more of Thor. Where is anything unique about our hero when you can mass produce him or her or it?

Making Thor one stop away from Sentry (boring character)

Then again maybe that was what Marvel was aiming for all along.

It's not like Thor ever run into those outside events, so I doubt that's going to be an issue.

Which is largely the big problem with Thor. What is he when you take away his hammer?

Depends on what Thor is like after whatever it was Fury told him. Also depends on who she is, no telling yet if she is a nobody (someone we have never met) or a somebody (an existing character).

first off, thor is thor whether he has the hammer or not. i rmember a friend who was a big thor fan from way back going on and on back in the day about how thor is more than just his hammer and it has been proved that he was capable of manipulating the storm even when it was sheared in two by the destroyers disintegrator beam back when thor was wear his weird 90s style costume and was hanging around with the high evolutionary after having turned his back on odin and asgard. he summoned the storm and called the lightning to him to fuse the two pieces of the hammer back together but the hammer was powerless before he did so, which means that thor has power over the storm even without it. maybe the hammer is just a convenience, allowing him to summon the power with but a thought rather than chanting or calling to it like casting a spell. but the point is, even without the hammer, he is a warrior god who has fought the hulk one-on-one without the hammer, can manipulate the weather, and is still an immortal of asgard.

so who is this woman committing identity theft just because she can pick up the hammer? because that is what she is doing by claiming his name as well as his hammer. she somehow stole the power and carries it around like his divine id card proving that she is thor even though anyone who knows him can just look at her and say, i know thor and you arent him.

plus as has been pointed out, the worthiness issue shouldnt even be a thing since odin promised that wouldnt happen anymore. guess he lied and we all are supposed to chalk that up to men lie and women deserve to take all their stuff and be better with it. i like the new diversity agenda at marvel, but this one really does go too far. hope it ends soon and they bring back fearless defenders.

I just read the comic. At the end, Freya changed the inscription on the hammer with her majic and then lifted mjolnir!

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