Female Thor, good or bad?

Imagine one day, wonder woman wakes up and she just isn't feeling up to it. Or she remembers something bad from her past. So some guy comes up, becomes the new god of war, takes her lasso and sword, and joins the Justice league as the new wonder woman! You'd feel pretty upset right?

@jayc1324: I agree whole heartedly

I do not like the idea of female thir

Its great

Unlike the change with Captain America, I'm curious with what Marvel plans to do with this female Thor.

Like I've been saying, I'm perfectly fine with the concept of woman taking the mantle of Thor. You can argue that it's his name (and it is) but it in a way it is also a mantle. There were other Thors who were not Thor Odinson he had the Thor Corps and he also had a human alias of Donald Blake. When you boil it down it's just a name and getting hung on her calling herself Thor is a little silly. I'll fully judge if this was a good move depending on if I like the new female Thor and the stories they'll now tell with a Mjolnir-less Thor Odinson. Add in that I'm sure enough fans will whine to make Marvel put Odinson back in the role anyways so there is little reason to complain about this.

Worst Case Scenario: This new Thor sucks, and Thor Odinson retakes the mantle.

Best Case Scenario: This new Thor is awesome and becomes an amazing character in her own right and becoming her own hero ala Beta Ray Bill a couple years down the line.

But hey call me an optimist.

@feartheliving: im pretty sure itll end up being your worst case, but like you, im hoping for your best case

I do not like it had it any ability to draw people to read it Thor Girl would have worked and it did not.

So it just looks like a waste of time.

They polled some women to see what they thought of the idea and almost all of them said.

They did not care and changing Thor was wrong and not the way to go about getting new readers. They could care less female Thor or male Thor they would not buy the comic.

So it is a lose readers stand point. How many people need to stand up and say. Please keep Thor as he is.

Do not change him just to appeal to a group of readers that would have no interest in comics as a large group.

Some going as far as saying they did not like the treatment of current fans and this lesson if there was one is the marvel has little loyalty to its reader base if they could so blatantly ignore the male part of its readers and some of its female base readers also say. They simply read and enjoy Thor as is. With the few saying they could care less they would read Female Thor but it made no sense to be called Thor and was not a females name at all.

Time will tell how it all goes down , I can only say for myself. No female Thor is bad if they want female Thor , give her a book of her own and leave male Thor alone.

Oh and take a lesson from animation and stop trying to rush the future of Thor he lives a long time just let him be the hero he can be. Not every story has to show the way future and his demise. Sometimes comics need to just get back to the basics. A good story about a hero fighting a good fight and keeping people safe.

Is that so hard to do?

@feartheliving: so you'd be perfectly fine if Hawkeye just starting aiming horribly one day and a girl decided to be called Clint Barton and take over? And like I said, because it happened before doesn't mean it should happen again. The fact that others have lifted mjolnir before just makes this story another copy, and makes the entire thing more cheap. Its just another "someone else lifts mjolnir story" but marvel wants to be "diverse" for a while so they use a girl but the whole thing is just a gimmick. I do hope female Thor stories are good though, I don't wanna be wasting me money on them.

One of the reasons Wonder Women was created was to show females that Superman had a other half. A women that could resonate and respond in kind to the challenge before the world So a male Wonder Women already exist he is Superman he is just not called Wonder Man his name is Clark lol.

One reason you like the pair so much is they really were made for each other.

So to say lets make a female Thor and one day female Thor and male Thor will meet up. no does not work.

Sif is already equal to Thor his counter his balance or even the Enchantress or they live long enough both at some point have given Thor a reason to go on in the world.

We simply need stories that show case the marvel universe along with the changing of the times.

To address issues that face the world today.

They need to take more time to tell a great story and less time getting to the end.

Stop changing the characters and start changing the world he lives in the plot the people and the walk along the path.

Lets see what they can do with character not simply changing the character and the same old fights , same trolls used over and over again , same giants just a new club , same fire Giants just a new flame , same Loki but not Loki because Loki was never evil he was the god of tricks and things. So maybe trade Evil Loki for the real Loki and bring him on board for better stories and a great ally to the forces of good.

Create the epic tale people keep selling but really make the epic tale.

One with so much good action your forced to pause the thought because even the thought of what could happen leaves you glued to your seat screaming for more.

Use all your characters there plethora of characters to choose from and each and every characters has its own story to tell.

Where is Balder a character that is said to be able to make any women fall in love with him just on first sight.

When they can truly use what they have then worry about changing things to say well what if we make Thor use a feather duster and call him Chamber maid Thor best damn house maid in the nine realms?

"yes bloody well hell that was the most ugly chamber maid ever and she killed that damn villain with a feather duster"

Ok maybe not.

@arthurkerr: yeah I changed it from wonder woman.

@jayc1324: It's a bit different Clint Barton was never his Super Name it's just his name, but there is Kate Bishop a female Hawkeye and I'm perfectly fine with it in fact she's awesome.

@feartheliving: Brah, lol, where do you find all of those Hawkeye scans? You have one for like every instance.

@feartheliving: Thor isn't his super name either, its just his name that his father gave him. Not a title or mantle like Hawkeye or batman of whatever. If she was just the new god of thunder it would make a little more sense but in an interview Jason Aaron said that she is Thor and will be called that. It would be like Kate Bishop deciding to be called Clint.

......boobs.

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@jayc1324: His super name issss Thor it is also his name but it's the name the public identifies with the God of Thunder. If the public was calling Clint, Clint as a superhero then I could see your logic but they don't they called him Hawkeye.

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@feartheliving: If Clint Barton didn't go by Hawkeye, and used his real name, you'd be fine with Kate bishop using the name Clint?

@jayc1324: It would be a little odd because he's just a man, but yeah it's just a name as long as Clint is still around doing his thing I couldn't care less what someone else is calling themselves. You also think I'm for her calling herself Thor that's not the case I'm not really in favor of it at all but I can get why she would call herself that; and I'm not going to crucify the character just because of it.

@feartheliving:

1 Marvel didn t create Thor name or myth, and even in marvel comics story s, he was Thor before he had mjolnir.

2 If this was a story for Thor Fans, i will give it a shot, but it s a publicity stunt to make headlines, and marvel in this process is disrespecting Thor long time fans, in every move, like in the O S 7, (What a stupid way to lose the hammer, it was only to force change).

3 The Chick has a name maybe it will be Frigg Wodendottir it s that i m gonna call her, but always crucify her character that is a publicity stunt.

Good. Jason Aaron is writing a great Thor.

@thecheesestabber: Not in Original Sin, only in Thor God of Thunder and he is not above the Character.

@t_aesir: It wasn't that it was bad it was just weird an he should have lost his hammer in his own series. Which is an amazing series

1. It's still their character and he's pretty different from the Norse Mythology version along with his supporting cast. Yes, and no. He started off as Donald Blake he was later retconed a handful of issues later to sort of fit that he was always Thor and that Odin made him live the life of Donald Blake. Either way this really isn't relevant to my argument that to Earth Thor is a symbol and a super name. Again I never said I'm fond of the choice but get why they chose it. Personally I'd rather they just call her something different it would stop a lot of the whining.

2. There is still a fair bit of mystery surrounding Original Sin #7 and even so it's not the how he become unworthy it's the journey of him dealing with being unworthy. Also even if that was done like crap (not saying it was) that's not something to put on the new Fem Thor it's her story and character itself you should be judging her on.

3. Stunt or not they want people to pick up the comics just like every other publisher so they want to try new things. Why was there a half black Wally West? And like I said if it fails Thor Odinson will be back in the role in no time so it's not something you should worry about. They aren't changing Thor's character other than his worthiness so really there is little to complain about.

Again maybe I'm just an optimist or don't see the point in complaining in something that's going to happen and will most likely revert in due time, add in Thor Odinson is still around and doing his own thing so you aren't missing him either.

@feartheliving: You have valid points and i respect your opinion, but don t you think Thor as a special DNA that is different from other superheros that were created by marvel or dc, you are absolutely right, Thor from mythology has a lot of differences from Marvel s Thor, but a core essential element of both, its that he is a male and it s name, it s a birth name, that has Scandinavian origins, you touch the main problem, i didn t call her identity thief if she will go by her birth name, but for marvel that would t make a headline, and for that i will crucify her and marvel.

She is not Thor girl, she is not She Thor etc... She is the only Thor in marvel universe this was the first marvel statement for the female Thor introduction, judge by yourself how a long time Thor fan should react to this...

@t_aesir: They never said she was the only Thor.

And the new volume will just be called "Thor," correct?

Right. I like that. If it's "Thor: Something" it's a different kind of book. You pick up this book and it just says "Thor" on the cover, which features a new female version of Thor. It's pretty much telling you she's not She-Thor or Lady Thor. She's not Thorika. She is Thor. This is the new Thor. So I like that part of it.

Does that mena the old Thor isn't going anywhere? Will he still very much be a part of this new book?

Yes, Thor Odinson, the Prince of Asgard, will still be around. He's still Thor. That's his birth name. He's unworthy of Mjolnir, but he'll still have a role to play. If you've seen the cover of one of Jonathan Hickman's upcoming "Avengers" issues where it flashes forward into the future you see what appears to be Thor holding his axe, Jarnbjorn. So that's kind of a glimpse into our book's future as well. That's kind of where we've been heading.


Again it all goes back to what I've set up in "God of Thunder" where we had these three different versions of Thor -- the young rambunctious Thor who wasn't yet worthy of picking up his hammer, present day Thor the Avenger, and then grumpy old King Thor. We'll continue to see those other versions, but we'll also start to see present day Thor becoming more of an amalgam of those other two versions.

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I don't overly care about Thor as a character either way, but purely from the perspective of someone who hates media grabs, this is clearly nothing but in a string of such acts. The worse part is, is that it worked.

She deserves it after the beating Thor got unworthy.

I care as much about king Thor as I do Mastro Hulk. In short I find them offensive.

Why do I worry so much about a future that is no where near?

Give us Stories of Thor today what Thor the god of Thunder is doing. Not Thor the female whom stole his identity and expects fans to be ok with it and continue to read about some female with issues of her own self worth that she has to take the identity of somebody else.

Why would I wish to see that?

@tensor: What???

@feartheliving: Dont try to hide it, that interview was after the first press release...

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=54067

“This is not She-Thor. This is not Lady Thor. This is not Thorita. This is THOR. This is the THOR of the Marvel Universe. But it’s unlike any Thor we’ve ever seen before.”

@t_aesir: From Angela aka his Sister.

@tensor: That isn t over yet, still 5.4 and 5.5, but it was another poor writing and Angela easily beat Thor, that is what less concerns me i don like characters only for the fights, win or loss.

What has Angela fight to do with Thor being unworthy?

It's about as good as a black superman..

@t_aesir: I didn't hide anything. He then goes on to saying that Thor is still Thor it is his name after all and that he will play a part as well.

Being the "Thor" of the Marvel Universe is referring to the mantle they aren't taking away his name.

@feartheliving: Ok ... but not Marvel first statement...

@t_aesir: Why would you want to go by the first statement that confused people? lol

It's not like anything in that interview denies anything from their original statement it just explains it more.

@t_aesir: It was never made for him and the way she beat him without even having the hammer..Time for him to show he is better than the hammer and he can do without.I like this directionThor is the God of Thunder.He needs to show the he is better than the hammer and act more like a God.

Finally A version of Wonder wonder woman :) . Yes worthy Angela :) From spawn days :) well done :)

Now weak Thor as i always claim .Speed / Aka / Blitz runs this show .:) Angela is clearly \ weaker gave him a speedy beat down. This is how it has always been :)Thor throws his hammer the character evades excuse me the weaker character evades then its all out beat down for Thor.

This has been consistent in marvel .

:) Thor is an interesting character but these are weakness that has proven over the years . He needs time to cast large magic throwing his strongest weapon away leave him open . I cant wait for Angela Power up

@feartheliving: Because marvel first statement was the publicity stunt, not Jason Aaron interview...

@tensor: Man by your first post i thought you were in the topic only to make fun of the character, but i love your plot if the new female Thor go by her birth name, but how do you know the hammer was not made for him, Fury whisper???

@t_aesir: Well he is writing Thor... so I imagine what he has to say should probably be heard. I'm also not saying you're wrong either this may very well be a publicity stunt; but like I said they want to sell comics. It's a business they want new readers; so they feel like they have to shake up the norm from time to time to get them. Every company does it. We may like it or hate it they have to try something because chances are even if a book is amazing it doesn't grab the attention of non-readers. Either way I'm not going to tear into it until I read and judge it for myself.

@feartheliving: Agree, but you said the run was so good, and the sales weren t dropping why change? I think Jason Aaron is risking a lot with this change...

@t_aesir: Greater the risk, the better the reward ;) I suppose we'll see come Thor #1 and the titles leading up to it.

@termiteone4ever: Characters can t be constructed only by their powers or their fights, Angela is an interesting character but not only because she is powerful, but because she is the long lost daughter of Asgard, if she wasn t in Thor world she would t be that interesting, in my opinion...

Angela Asgard Assassin (November)

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=54271

@t_aesir: I am guessing.I am just going by what happen in the comic.

1.Thor was shock but by what he already knows he has a sister.

2.The Fact Iron man was Line was Thor looks like he is trying to pick up his hammer.In the way he said it is like the writer hinting that it might not be his.

3.Seeing Thor not worthy and cannot lift the hammer just have me guessing it does not belong to him.We all know that when the hammer is like this only a person who is worthy can lift it.Thor has been doing it all his life why not now.Just thinking Nick might have said a chant saying the original owners name who is worthy.

All and all I am just guessing.Just have to wait and see.One fact is that Thor does get back the hammer,as we see in the future with King Thor.Just have to see how it is all done.

@tensor: Ok... Then who is your bet to be the Thor female Frigg???

The way it was conjured up is quite moronic, and it's merely a publicity stunt to boost sales in the short-term. Thor, Cap and Iron Man will be restored to the status quo just in time for the Avengers sequel. I would not have minded a story where Thor loses the ability to wield Mjolnir, but the way he lost it is literally trolling at its finest.

@haveatthee: How i wish you were right, but Avengers 2 is in may of 2015 and the event "time runs out" is a summer 2015 event, an by the pics Thor still unworthy, with the Jarnbjorn.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=53324

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=54436