Does Thor have Super-Speed?

Ah Frank Tieri, the guy who thinks Wolverine could have a fair shot of beating Thor, Superman and Hercules and that Marrow would be a better character if she was model beautiful, just like all the other comic characters. Not sure his point of view carries the same weight or credibility that some other writers have when it comes to Thor. He wrote a fun Dracula vs Apocalypse mini series though and Lethal Legion mini was great too, based on his writing though he seems to like to ground powerful characters. Thats fair.

well i hate to resort to this i was kind of hoping u had a reference point cannot find any power grids on wonderman but for marvel trading cards he's got his speed at 3 ( superhuman) and marvel trading cards are strict they dont even have warp speed so that means wonderman is about as fast as namor vision ghost rider ( on his bike) and hobgoblin ( with his glider ofcourse) but at the same time a good notch slower then arch angel quick silver cannon ball.. what i cannot believe is marvel training cards got fin fan foom listed with a speed of a 5 i hate to think what they would list Ego as

but back on topic your absolutey right about thor if thor couldnt fight at light speed he would getting own3d and own3d by guys like silver surfer gladiator and thanos

Well I hate to be "that guy" but Ego is pretty fast technically speaking. Maybe or maybe not in reaction speed, but in http://www.comicvine.com/astonishing-thor/4050-36955/ Thor was at least moving at warp to keep up but then Ego started out pacing him by using it's surface volcanos and core pressure to increase its propulsion with a helping boost from Stranger. So Ego should actually be pretty fast in travel speed, though that doesn't convert into reaction speed.

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well that explains how the hell has spiderman outflanked iron man when spiderman is a class 3 and iron man is a 6 ... arch angel is class 5 ... quick silver is only a class 4 and rogue ( she can catch bullets ) and wonderman got a teeney winey speed rating of 3

Here's some of Thor's feats of Speed, Power, Durability:

Thor flexes and snaps adamantium alloy cables like they were nothing, from Thor #309:

Does this look familiar? Twenty years later, Thor literally re-performs his feat of lifting a metal railway and sustaining the weight of a passing train as it races by, from Thor #319:

Early on, Thor pushes over the Leaning Tower of Pisa with his finger, from Journey Into Mystery #92:

And large numbers already are quantified as Thor leg presses millions of tons of rock onto the Destroyer, fromJourney Into Mystery #119:

After the villain, Graviton, finds his powers uncontrollable, he compresses an entire floating city into a sphere, and Thor, along with several other Avengers, find themselves supporting and then heaving millions of tons of weight into the Atlantic, from Avengers #159:

Thor tows the small island, Hydrobase, into New York harbor, from Avengers #301:

At the conclusion of Acts of Vengeance, Thor closes a chasm of a "million tons of earth" over Loki, from West Coast Avengers #55:

Here Thor crushes a force-field of the Power Cosmic (amped by Loki's power) that keeps him from Mjolnir, from Silver Surfer #4:

Here, Thor destroys another of Silver Surfer's force-fields with a single strike, from Silver Surfer #4:

As for pure collateral damage, a single punch met with the same force has leveled a countryside, from Thor#338:

And with repeated blows? Thor and Red Norvell literally wreck Asgard with their fist-fight and almost deafen Heimdall, from Thor #476:

Thor literally matches a Savage Hulk's strength in a grappling contest for an entire hour, from Defenders #10:

Indeed, his punch is so powerful that combined with a punch of equal strength, it is capable of actually closing dimensional rifts, from Avengers #100:

Here, he stalemates immortal Hercules in a contest of arm-wrestling, from Thor #222:

Thor resists a force "as though half a planet" were bearing down on him, from Thor #140:

Thor resists the gravimetric pull akin to "that of a neutron star" and busts out, from Thor #281:

A neutron star has 200 billion times the gravity of earth. That level of acceleration means a neutron star's gravity is faster than light.

Thor actually lifts the Midgard Serpent who is powerful enough to crush the earth. Note that the catastrophic effects of such a feat are actually physically felt on Earth, from Thor #32:

Survives the weight of twenty planets in Thor annual vol 1. #9 :

Thor has resisted extreme ranges of heat throughout his career. Thor doesn't even register a reaction when immersed in lava, from Avengers #5:

Thor walks around inside the furnace of the trolls, whose fires were used to forge Mjolnir, from Thor #211:

Magical fire-bolts engulf Thor to no effect, from Thor #292:

Ghost Rider's pure hellfire blasts are useless in Avengers #214:

Cosmic fire-bolts from the Herald, Firelord, have a similarly negligible effect in Thor #306:

And Thor has literally stood in the center of the Sun while confronting Atum in Thor Annual #14:

On the opposite end of the spectrum, Thor effortlessly resists arctic forces summoned by the Executioner in one of his first fights in Journey Into Mystery #103:

Here, Thor resists the "devastating energy of an exploding sun" from the Executioner's axe, from Journey Into Mystery #103:

Thanos' fleet nails Thor with a salvo of energy blasts and the mere indirect impact knocks both Captain Marvel and Ironman unconscious in Marvel Two-In-One Annual #2:

Thor is not only immune to electricity blasts, but indeed refreshed by them as shown in Thor #288:

One of his most impressive feats, Thor survives being rocked by multiple blasts by the Fourth Host of Celestials, from Thor #300:

Thor's unconscious body isn't even destroyed by a Doomsday Bomb capable of destroying a planet, fromThor #387:

And while empowered by the Odinforce,Thor has resisted the Destroyer's beam of total disintegration in Thorvol. 3 #5:

Here, we see Thor flying outside a window and when Jane Foster gets his attention, Thor manages to intercept Cobra's poison dart within a split-second. The dart is fired before he even is inside the room, just to give you the proper frame of reference to understand the speed and reflexes necessary in Journey Into Mystery #98:

Thor digs a trench in a blur of motion that is "almost too fast for the human eye to follow." From Marvel Team-Up #26:

And here, while helping rebuild Asgard, Thor hammers down repeatedly on a pillar and "becomes a blur of motion" in Thor #267:

Thor's reflexes have always allowed to react at lightning speeds faster than the human eye can perceive.Even in a hail of attacks or debris. There's something about this feat is that Thor speed and moves faster than the sight of Heimdall , a god endowed with super-senses , able to hear the grass grow, the sap running in the trees or the beating of the wings of a butterfly on the other side of the galaxy and whose eyes see light years away. Whatever the case, the fineness of Heimdall's senses are greater than those of any being.

Here, Thor fights Heimdall and swings his hammer down on him at speeds "moving too swiftly for the eye to follow," even too fast for Heimdall in Journey Into Mystery#125:

Here, Hela only has to touch Thor in order to ensnare his soul in 1v1 combat, but is unable to do so because of his speed, "His speed, his anger, are beyond comprehension!" From Thor #354:

Here, while fending off two Herald-level foes, Adam Warlock likens his ability to catch his staff mid-swing and his combat speed to that of lightning, "He moves like the lightning he commands, much quicker than I remember." From Infinity Watch #23:

Here, in the space of one and one-fifth seconds, Thor dives out of the sky, smashes Mjolnir down and causes a supersonic shockwave to divert a runaway truck from killing a young boy ACROSS the city in Journey Into Mystery #108:

Here, in the space of micro-seconds before a zooming cursed Mjolnir will strike Thor from behind, Thor lays a haymaker onto an Enchanter and spins around in time to snatch Mjolnir in mid-air, from Thor #144:

Here, Thor is about to have his face smashed by a cursed Mjolnir which is zooming back to him, but he moves swiftly enough on reaction to dodge it inThor vol. 2 #27:

Thor has dug a ditch so fast that neither Quicksilver was valoz enough to escape it (Quicksilver was already in motion before Thor has started digging the trench).

Thor punks Quicksilver once again:

Thor reacts to Wrecker swinging his mystic crowbar onto Thor's head from behind. Literally only inches away, Thor moves so swiftly once again, he snatches the crowbar with his hand in Thor vol. 2 #29:

And it looks like current Thor hasn't lost that bare-handed touch as he catches Bor's axe inches from his face inThor #600:

With his great speed, without the use of his natural control over the weather, he can create winds of hurricane force or greater- than-hurricane-force air shockwaves in Journey Into Mystery #100 and #84:

Here, he literally snatches a fired tank shell out of mid-air with his bare hand and bats a barrage of them back in Journey Into Mystery #93:

And similarly snatches a fired missile with his bare hand in Marvel Team-Up #148:

Here, with FTB speed, he deflects two bullets with a single swing way back in Journey Into Mystery #100:

Here, he blocks a single bullet with the head of Mjolnir before whirling it to create a field in Thor #246:

And many times again...

Here, Thor flings Mjolnir to the farthest reaches of the galaxy in Thor: Whom The Gods Would Destroy:

And he can fling the hammer many times the speed of light and transcend the boundaries of time and space inThor #392-393, Thor #140 and Thor #274:

As for FTL reactions that can be measured in nanoseconds (light travels one foot per nanosecond), he's swung and swatted away Blastaar's energy blasts inThor #270:

Far from a one-off FTL feat, he does the same to Mole Man's energy blaster shot in Marvel Two-In-One #96:

Here, Enchantress shoots a blast at Captain America and Thor reacts with FTL speed to cut off the energy blast in mid-flight, from Marvel Comics Presents#44:

Thor can spin Mjolnlr around fast enough to shield himself from lasers, from Thor #218:

Phoenix shoots a telepathic blast at a groggy Thor at the moment Thor's arms are at his side. AFTER the shot is fired and already traveling at him, Thor raises his arms and reflects it back with Mjolnir. Telepathy being instantaneous traditionally (as noted in the narration), we can assume for the sake of argument that it was only traveling at light-speed, making this another FTL feat, from Excalibur#428:

He can even block a constant barrage of laser vision from Count Nefaria, from Avengers #166:

He bats away a possessed Iron Man's repulsor rays in Avengers vol. 3 #3:

And again bats away ray blasts in a training session in Avengers vol. 3 #23:

and again......

Mjolnir also allows for simulated flight whereby when thrown it could pull it's wielder along. Basically, Thor flies by flinging his hammer really hard and then hanging on for ride:

And no matter what, it's been explained that "Thor can always control the course of his flight," from Thor #400:

In terms of flight speed, he's flown at least three times the speed of light, from Thor #185:

Thor has trapped Hermes the god of speed, and well, that's just say that ... but are spears spears thrown by gods thousands of times stronger than any human, imagine how fast would travel those spears =).

During the saga of Surtur , commissioned by Nick Fury (Nick Fury), Thor reached and surpassed in speed to a spaceship traveling at a speed came many times that of Light and even outside our solar system, Thor increase their 100 times speed to overtake the ship.

Travels from Earth to Sun in a matter of moments:

Saves Rulk from a Black Hole(ANOTHER FTL feat):

Thor intercepted Ego whom was moving at hyperspace speeds:

Catches Ego again after getting shot at by Stranger:

THOR isn't known for speed. so no. but that doesn't say THOR isn't fast. he's fast but there are a lot others who are faster.

Wolverine fight is PIS to the extreme.

Fast enough to fight SS, Gladiator, Hyperion and win all those fights.

BRB also fought against SS, Stardust and can see objects at speeds FTL.

This panel/scan is always taken out of context to the story. This is not Thor, Thor killed Loki & his soul was imprisoned. Eric Masterson Was Given Mjolnir, He gained Thor's Strength, Durability, basic use of The Hammer(at first could barely Fly, without crashing. But none of Thor's combat experience, Masterson was an Architect from New York w/the Powers of a God & no Instruction Manuel. Later after Thor's release they Battled & Masterson couldn't land a shot even w/ Mjolnir & after months of training w/Hercules & Captain America . classic Thor isn't slow this is just a bad example, (Although Eric M. goes on to become Thunderstrike & dies Excellently ,like" A Warrior Born")

As far as wolverine, 1 Terrible story , 2. This always falls back to restraint on Thor's part , He explains in the scan many battles go longer than they should because he doesn't His Full physical abilities or Powers against Mortals for fear of Killing/Murdering Them , Wolverine was going all out, he thought he was fighting Sabertooth, Thor knew he was fighting Wolverine ,So of course he's holding back ,for most of the fight

80's -Current Thor has feats That can Match Darkseid From DC who is widely considered to have super speed Below Thor deflects a speed blitzing Hyperion, & catches Zefra newly formed god of Speed after she uses her speed to slip the grip of another Newly formed god(who Thor compared his strength/grip to Hercules) How many times have we seen Darkseid swat away a Superman, or catch/deflect The flash (same feats) all examples of Super Speed & combat reflexes

hulk fans are common thor haters.

Thor has Super Speed & combat reactions as well as Transwarp/faster than light travel Powers, Thor can also teleport There are plenty of examples to support that Thor Has done feats of speed That rival Darkseid yet no one questions Darkseid's speed, Thor has done these feats in Modern comics , Modern thor isn't slow

As far as this scan This scan is always used out of context To the story, This is not Thor ,it is Eric Masterson in This story Thor Killed Loki His soul was Imprisoned, Mjolnir, His powers, Strength & Durability were given To Masterson , But None of Thor's Skills or experience, He is an architect from New York , W/ the Power of a God & no training , after months of training w/ Captain America & Hercules Masterson Thor Battled The real Thor after his release & even w/ Mjolnir couldn't Hit the Real Thor , Thor wasn't slow Masterson was inexperience & clumsy w/ His new Powers

The Wolverine scan is Thor restraining himself , Wolverine believes he's fighting sabertooth & is going all out Thor Know He's fighting Wolverine & Is Holding back That is obvious in the context of the Story, Thor has stated many Times how he allows battles to go longer Than They Should out of fear of accidently killing a mortal

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Moves so fast that he become a blur of motion or move too fast to be seen. Shown here, Thor fights Heimdall and swings his hammer down on him at speeds "moving too swiftly for the eye to follow," even too fast for Heimdall. I think this is too much even for the likes of Superman.

lol no

Thor's flight speed and reflexes are MFTL, but I don't think he's faster than Superman.

Thor can travel extremely fast while flying, as fast if not faster than anything man made including the iron man suit.( although they should be about even except in space.) But I believe thor doesn't need to have superspeed reactions and fighting because that would ruin thor. ( it would make him fight like superman) Thor is a warrior and fights as such. One of the great things about marvel is they don't give everyone supersonic fights. makes them more fleshed out and cool.

Is their a thread on the Thor forum that doesn't obsess over Thor's speed. (end of sarcasm)

@leesensei: Um... MFTL ?

@dum529001: my friend every FTL feat you showed me are no profe that it is FTL not every energy blast or Laser shoot is Light Speed its comic or there are scanes of Captain America where he dodge Lasers. it was not swift enough for heimdall not to see it he couldnt block it coz it was to powerfull/strong coz his sword couldnt stand a chance vs thors hammer force. And for hermes he throw himself with his hammer to catch him so his combat speed is not FTL its his travel coz hey flow with his hammer. And the scane where is only a blur if Quicksilver swings his hammer with all his speed it would look the same so still no FTL. And the scane where he hits hyperion back its still no profe of his combat speed it just shows Hyperion blitz him but that thor doesnt go down from dat hit and hits hyperion back he just overpowers him with strenght not speed and for ppl who say but he needs to be to hit back no he doesnt coz hyperion doesnt use his speed effectively its like Quicksilver blitz at thor normaly quicksilver shouldnt have the strenght to knock him down or didnt use enought strenght so he is at thor and now thor hits him back with his hammer that doesnt prof any combat speed.

Maybe i got it wrong and you can explain why this are FTL combat speed

Thor good speed

yes he have, but not at the same levels that speesters like superman, sentry flash, he can go toe to toe in those terms but he is slower for a bit and got scans that probe that.

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Does Thor have Super-Speed?

Haha you know he does.

Thor is very slow

He is faster than super man

no

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@asgaard: Thor is slow

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He's faster than we give him credit for, but compared to a lot of others(the flash), he's a snail

Being able to throw punches in microseconds and having millisecond reaction time is superhuman speed.

He has MFTL travel speed and classic Thor has good reactions while current Thor has a bit over peak human reactions.

+1

Thor have Superhuman speed. I would be glad that people stops to say that he is slow.

OHOTMU POWER GRID

SPEED

The ability to move over land by running or flight

1 = Below normal

2 = Normal

3 = Subsonic Superhuman: peak velocity below Mach-1 (approximately 760 miles per hour)

4 = Speed of sound: peak velocity between Mach-1 to Mach-2

5 = Supersonic: peak velocity between Mach-2 to Orbital Velocity approximately 17,000 mph)

6 = Speed of light: peak velocity up to 186,000 miles per second

7 = Warp speed: transcending light speed or a teleporter(instantaneous travel)

More on Marvel.com: http://marvel.com/universe/OHOTMU:Power_Grids#ixzz3hEfIZBKB

Yes. He has super speed as it relates to humans.

Everything is related to humans.

Not exactly sure, can't think really think of an instance he does something to a speedster level like Superman in terms of showing after images or being a blur and stuff.

Also, from what I know for someone to be labelled having super speed, one of the well known feats they usually show is spinning in circles where they cause a mini tornado like the Flash or Superman.....I guess if you have that then that means you do have super human speed. Even if Thor has never portarayed this before, his female version has.....as in Thorina:

If Thorina can do it why can't Thor then?

Still the same answer as when and before this thread was made.

@lvenger: And that would be?

He should be as fast as lightning!

@krleavenger: Surely you know my opinion on this subject by now? ;)

@lvenger: Not really. I only know you think he is a lot slower than Superman.

@krleavenger: Really? Well I'll tell you my opinion on Thor's combat speed then. I find him to be slow period based on the trouble he has tagging street levellers and several of his supposed speed feats being either capable of replicated by street levellers or travel speed feats done by Mjolnir. My view on Thor's combat speed is that he's slightly above street level/low level superhuman speed/reflexes.

@lvenger: I agree. So you don't think he is slow.

@ This question.

LOL

Thor has MFTL combat speed.

@krleavenger: Technically no but against the characters he's matched up with he may as well be.

@lvenger: Well yeah but he should not be called slow then. Wally is slow compare to Hunter.