Would anyone suggest Byrnes Superman?

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Was it good? I'm thinking about buying it

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@sog7dc said:

Was it good? I'm thinking about buying it

seconded? I liked Man of Steel a lot, i want to know if his ongoing was good.

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Byrne's Man of Steel was one of the first Superman books I ever read, and it turned me off the character for years. He spent way too much time trying to reinvent the wheel instead of capturing what made Supes work already.

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What about his ongoing? The "Superman" run he had. Was tht any good?

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I would definitely recommend Byrne's Superman. I think they based the DCAU Superman on Byrne's run because of the power levels. Also his Luthor is the Luthor that we know and love today. People forget that Luthor was a scientist before Byrne and Byrne made him a businessman. Also he toned down the Silver Age silliness and brought a more relatable character to comics.But this is just my opinion and I'm known to prefer the lesser powered Superman as opposed to the Kryptonian God Superman.

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@sog7dc said:

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What about his ongoing? The "Superman" run he had. Was tht any good?

I've only read a few issues here and there. I didn't see a lot to make it stand out.

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Loved Man of Steel, introduced a Superman that wasn't a deus ex machina and had character.

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I recommend it. It is not my favorite when it comes to Superman but that's a personal preference, it has good art and readable story so go for it. I have to warn you though Byrne spends too much time reinventing both Clark and Superman. That is not a bad thing to make clear. I just want you to know that Clark has a heavy pressence in the book. Also Byrne killed any connection Superman had to Krypton(he was technically "born" in America). So his Superman lacks that part, he also made him less of a hero and more of a man with powers doing what is right.

Plus his Superman killed Zod :-P

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Love his Lex, Dislike his Superman

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Man of Steel was a turning point for Superman as it was the essentially the foundation for the Superman that most fans have grown up with (Post-crisis). If you're looking for ridiculous power feats, then you're going in the wrong direction. Byrne's stories were a little more centred and while I wouldn't say grounded, Superman was powered down after the crisis and Byrne tried to show that Superman didn't need to move the Earth to be prevalent in the world. It's an intriguing concept, one which I feel paid off fantastically and the art for the series has to be some of the most consistent and idealistic for the character.

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@sog7dc: D@mn, I was gonna suggest you to buy the Man of Steel collected editions.
These are volumes collecting all the Superman titles after the reboot and since some stories are actually crossovers you would get the whole thing.

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Awww man :/ I already bought the single issues. Well I'll jut get the trades next. Do the "superman" issues hold up as just single issues or are the tie-ins needed?

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interesting, I had thought the Byrne era was the DOS era..doh! Now I know he was writing between 1986-88 and revamped Superman's powerset downwards. Not sure I like that. will have to give it a try!

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@bezza:

Yeah I like my Superman powerful but I'm reading this more for the characters and inspiration than anything

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#16  Edited By Squalleon

@sog7dc said:

@squalleon:

Awww man :/ I already bought the single issues. Well I'll jut get the trades next. Do the "superman" issues hold up as just single issues or are the tie-ins needed?

Most of them yeah except the ones which are part of the Legends crossover, it's just Byrne wrote some Action Comics and AoS issues and annuals some are good and some not (Superman and Barda making a pron :-P).

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I'll have to check those books out down the road. I'm trying to collect the dan jurgens and john Byrne books of superman and the Walter simonson Thor run

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@sog7dc said:

@squalleon:

I'll have to check those books out down the road. I'm trying to collect the dan jurgens and john Byrne books of superman and the Walter simonson Thor run

You can't go wrong with that

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@squalleon:

I also ordered the first ten issues of Walters Orion run

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#20  Edited By sasquatch888

john byrnes late 80's superman was awesome

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@sog7dc: That Simonson Thor run is pure awesomesauce!

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#22  Edited By Squalleon

@sog7dc said:

@squalleon:

I also ordered the first ten issues of Walters Orion run

Walter Simonson has the best new gods stories outside of Jack Kirby. Buy the whole run if you can find it, it gets better the more you progress.
Basically everything with the name of Walter Simonson is great.

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Walter Simonson is mucho grande, John Byrne isn't.

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#24  Edited By Bezza

@sog7dc said:

@squalleon:

I'll have to check those books out down the road. I'm trying to collect the dan jurgens and john Byrne books of superman and the Walter simonson Thor run

Dan Jurgens, that's the fella I was confusing Byrne with. I quite like his era, having DOS, ROS and Superman Doomsday books on my shelf. He was a superman weak enough to get hurt, but powerful enough to get the job done when it mattered...

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@sog7dc:

I also ordered the first ten issues of Walters Orion run

My man! That's good money right there. Not to mention the DOS and/or ROS TPB's from the Dan Jurgens era (if you don't have these already). Hell, I loved the "Our World's at War" storyline for a variety of reasons (not the least of which were the uber-powerful Entropy Aegis, but since I'm an old school Steel fan, you had to know that was coming)!^-^

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I'm excited to read Orion. I got jack Kirby's new gods as well

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@bezza:

See I tend to like my superman to be more powerful. (It always amazes me that Superman gets called OP for benching earth but Thor destroys a planet as a byproduct of a fight and hulk resists the weight of a star and no one bats an eye) but I'm reading this more for the characters and the story than anything.

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@sog7dc:

I'm excited to read Orion. I got jack Kirby's new gods as well

That's great. I know that Walt Simonson's Thor Omnibus is kind of expensive, but it's by far the easiest way to get all of the issues at once that I can think of (unless you luck out on eBay, that is...). Loved his Thor run. It gave us Beta Ray Bill, dont'cha know!;)

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#29  Edited By Billy Batson

@sog7dc:

I'm excited to read Orion. I got jack Kirby's new gods as well

That's great. I know that Walt Simonson's Thor Omnibus is kind of expensive, but it's by far the easiest way to get all of the issues at once that I can think of (unless you luck out on eBay, that is...). Loved his Thor run. It gave us Beta Ray Bill, dont'cha know!;)

Marvel is currently releasing Simonson's Thor in ultimate collections.

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@billy_batson:

Marvel is currently releasing Simonson's Thor in ultimate collections.

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Are they now? Interesting... By the way, what does "BB" mean?

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Not one of my favorites, but it works for people who like a less powerful Superman who is very often just Clark Kent.