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#1 Edited by Spidermeat101 (260 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't get it.They always say he's overpowered when he's not.He gets his butt kicked alot and also,he is the first super hero!So,it makes sense.In fact,if you are a Superman hater,give me a reason besides"He is overpowered"That's just some excuse.So can someone explain?

#2 Posted by Z3RO180 (6719 posts) - - Show Bio

Simple they just don't know the character and just assume that's he is OP. Also true he get his butt kicked a lot but he also kicks a lot of but.

#3 Posted by KnightRise (4762 posts) - - Show Bio

Overpowered has just become another empty comicbook phrase.

#4 Edited by drgnx (3566 posts) - - Show Bio

It is not that he is overpowered, it is that very few of his villains match him power by power.

Examples:

Lex Luthor VS Superman

Bizzaro VS Superman

One has the brains to match Superman but lacks powers, the has the powers but lacks the brain. (What if Lex because the new Bizzaro? Like a hulk relationship?)

Then you have villains that don't match him in power but have powers that bring him down or hurt him so their feats pale in comparison...

On Top of that I have a feeling that there are people who see characters that should be able to beat Superman that are powerful and because those people see those feats and assume Superman might surpass those, think Superman must be godly...

#5 Edited by tupiaz (2241 posts) - - Show Bio

Because he can more or less do everything. He can fly, he can run fast, he is strong, he has X-Ray sight he can shoot laser out of his eyes he can breath frost. No, I have never read a story with Superman and know that a lot of his fans love his morals. However that he has so many powers is rubbing me the wrong way. I have consider reading For All Seasons.

#6 Posted by Stormbox (2001 posts) - - Show Bio

People who dont read his comics see him that way, mostly because of misconceptions attached to other stuff

Its like aquaman, only in reverse

#7 Edited by Dark_Guyver (2431 posts) - - Show Bio

In a recent issue didn't he bench press the weight of the Earth for 5 days straight. That's pretty powerful if you ask me.

#8 Edited by Dark_Guyver (2431 posts) - - Show Bio

In a recent issue didn't he bench press the weight of the Earth for 5 days straight. That's pretty powerful if you ask me.

#9 Posted by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

@tupiaz said:

Because he can more or less do everything. He can fly, he can run fast, he is strong, he has X-Ray sight he can shoot laser out of his eyes he can breath frost. No, I have never read a story with Superman and know that a lot of his fans love his morals. However that he has so many powers is rubbing me the wrong way. I have consider reading For All Seasons.

So does Thor having so many powers rub you the wrong way?

#10 Posted by tupiaz (2241 posts) - - Show Bio

@hewhosees said:

@tupiaz said:

Because he can more or less do everything. He can fly, he can run fast, he is strong, he has X-Ray sight he can shoot laser out of his eyes he can breath frost. No, I have never read a story with Superman and know that a lot of his fans love his morals. However that he has so many powers is rubbing me the wrong way. I have consider reading For All Seasons.

So does Thor having so many powers rub you the wrong way?

A lot of Thors Power is in Mjonir. That is how he flying (Even though it should be with the help of his wagon and two goats), that is where he use the lightnings and so on. He is also more mortal compared to Superman that can only be killed by kryptonite. The difference is also that Thor is a god and is based on the concept of this. Marvel has just accepted that the Greek and Nordic Gods does exist. Superman is just an alien.

#11 Posted by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

@tupiaz said:

@hewhosees said:

@tupiaz said:

Because he can more or less do everything. He can fly, he can run fast, he is strong, he has X-Ray sight he can shoot laser out of his eyes he can breath frost. No, I have never read a story with Superman and know that a lot of his fans love his morals. However that he has so many powers is rubbing me the wrong way. I have consider reading For All Seasons.

So does Thor having so many powers rub you the wrong way?

A lot of Thors Power is in Mjonir. That is how he flying (Even though it should be with the help of his wagon and two goats), that is where he use the lightnings and so on. He is also more mortal compared to Superman that can only be killed by kryptonite. The difference is also that Thor is a god and is based on the concept of this. Marvel has just accepted that the Greek and Nordic Gods does exist. Superman is just an alien.

So, Thor having so many powers rubs you the wrong way?

#12 Posted by tupiaz (2241 posts) - - Show Bio

@tupiaz said:

@hewhosees said:

@tupiaz said:

Because he can more or less do everything. He can fly, he can run fast, he is strong, he has X-Ray sight he can shoot laser out of his eyes he can breath frost. No, I have never read a story with Superman and know that a lot of his fans love his morals. However that he has so many powers is rubbing me the wrong way. I have consider reading For All Seasons.

So does Thor having so many powers rub you the wrong way?

A lot of Thors Power is in Mjonir. That is how he flying (Even though it should be with the help of his wagon and two goats), that is where he use the lightnings and so on. He is also more mortal compared to Superman that can only be killed by kryptonite. The difference is also that Thor is a god and is based on the concept of this. Marvel has just accepted that the Greek and Nordic Gods does exist. Superman is just an alien.

So, Thor having so many powers rubs you the wrong way?

Thor is basically just very strong so no and hard to kill. And he isn't on the same level at Superman and really isn't important in a discussion about whatever Superman is overpowered or not.

#13 Edited by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

The 1938 Superman was not overpowered and there was no kryptonite in 1938. The powers were explained in terms of insects. Ants can lift several times their own weight. Grasshoppers can hop pretty far. Kryptonians on Krypton were shown hopping like grasshoppers.

#14 Posted by MuyJingo (2184 posts) - - Show Bio

You only have to look at one of the superman vs batman threads, or probably superman vs anyone threads to see why (when cherrypicking feats) he could be considered overpowered.

#15 Posted by SC (13409 posts) - - Show Bio

A lot of the time they confuse overpowered with really popular fan favorite, writer favorite, character. Or they forget this is all fictional. Superman does get beaten up a lot, he is basically Hulk Hogan and John Cena, in which he will get beaten a lot but usually because he is holding back and or he will come back and win when it matters most. So not the character, but the writers. Something that applies to every character to some degree.

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#16 Posted by Zardu (348 posts) - - Show Bio

Because he is. He can fly faster than light, he can carry planets, nothing can hurt him, he can see through matter, he can fire laser beams out of his eyes, he can blow strong wind and freeze air, etc. Man, is there something he can not do? That´s too much, in my opinion.

#17 Posted by tupiaz (2241 posts) - - Show Bio

@zardu said:

Because he is. He can fly faster than light, he can carry planets, nothing can hurt him, he can see through matter, he can fire laser beams out of his eyes, he can blow strong wind and freeze air, etc. Man, is there something he can not do? That´s too much, in my opinion.

Blow fire out of his nose.

Fart sulfur mustard.

#18 Posted by Zardu (348 posts) - - Show Bio

@tupiaz: These ablilities will also develop some day :-)

#19 Posted by Black_Claw (3116 posts) - - Show Bio

Because people don't read the damn comic books and only get superficial knowledge from TV shows and movies.

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#20 Posted by consolemaster001 (6130 posts) - - Show Bio

He isn't all that powerful

#21 Posted by Deranged Midget (17974 posts) - - Show Bio

There could plenty of reasons why people assume Superman is overpowered. It could be either that he's superior to almost every other hero on Earth, the fact that he is in fact such a drastic change from the more popular heroes that people can supposedly "relate" to . But he's not that over-powered when you see the opponents he goes up against. I think it's just most people hating on the character which will never end.

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#22 Edited by SmashBrawler (5978 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm just gonna leave this here:

#23 Posted by guttridgeb (4832 posts) - - Show Bio

Back when I was a Superman hater (yes, I am ashamed) it was more of an excuse than anything else.

#24 Posted by SpiderFan1 (35 posts) - - Show Bio

It's because he's practically god.

His weaknesses are hard to exploit. There are some but few who match him in terms of power.

There's nothing he can't do. I know his power set. Eventually he can do it all.

#25 Posted by Kal'smahboi (3567 posts) - - Show Bio

Honestly, to fight the bad reputation he got in the Silver Age, he was given more weaknesses than most characters: magic, kryptonite, loved ones, red sunlight, etc. Plus, the character has been given many many many psychological weaknesses. He has personal doubts, abandonment issues, etc. It's incredible for anyone to say that he's overpowered, because for every power he has, he has a weakness.

#26 Posted by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

It's because he's practically god.

His weaknesses are hard to exploit. There are some but few who match him in terms of power.

There's nothing he can't do. I know his power set. Eventually he can do it all.

Silver Surfer, Gladiator, Thor, Beta-Ray Bill, Hyperion, The Hulk, Deadpool, Wolverine, Captain Marvel (Marvel), The GOOD Phoenix incarnations of Jean Grey, Dr. Strange, Franklin Richards, etc, etc, etc.

#27 Posted by trebean (706 posts) - - Show Bio

@spiderfan1 said:

It's because he's practically god.

His weaknesses are hard to exploit. There are some but few who match him in terms of power.

There's nothing he can't do. I know his power set. Eventually he can do it all.

Silver Surfer, Gladiator, Thor, Beta-Ray Bill, Hyperion, The Hulk, Deadpool, Wolverine, Captain Marvel (Marvel), The GOOD Phoenix incarnations of Jean Grey, Dr. Strange, Franklin Richards, etc, etc, etc.

Remove Wade and Logan there and replace them with Sentry and Hercules.

Logan and Wade are mostly Street Levelers

#28 Edited by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

It's because he's practically god.

His weaknesses are hard to exploit. There are some but few who match him in terms of power.

There's nothing he can't do. I know his power set. Eventually he can do it all.

Note how VERY few of those characters mentioned above have any "inherent" "weakness" whereas Superman is susceptible to the same kind of high impact physical blows the above can take and high level magicks WHILE ALSO having two more weaknesses that most of the above DON'T have (IE, red sunlight and kryptonite).

If your going to falt someone for practically being a god, then, pray tell, why aren't you faulting ANY OF THOSE mentioned above characters or even some other ones in DC?

#29 Edited by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

@trebean said:

@hewhosees said:

@spiderfan1 said:

It's because he's practically god.

His weaknesses are hard to exploit. There are some but few who match him in terms of power.

There's nothing he can't do. I know his power set. Eventually he can do it all.

Silver Surfer, Gladiator, Thor, Beta-Ray Bill, Hyperion, The Hulk, Deadpool, Wolverine, Captain Marvel (Marvel), The GOOD Phoenix incarnations of Jean Grey, Dr. Strange, Franklin Richards, etc, etc, etc.

Remove Wade and Logan there and replace them with Sentry and Hercules.

Logan and Wade are mostly Street Levelers

Yeah, street levelers with INSANE regen that really makes you scratch your head and wonder why fans of them are always complaining that they don't "fear for Superman's life" when those two I fear even less for considering what they can come back from considering the kinds of threats they're usually faced with.

#30 Posted by Bruxae (14008 posts) - - Show Bio

I never saw him as overpowered, frankly I always felt many other powerhouses like Wonder Woman or Shazam could kick his ass if they wanted too.. I love superman but if id have to give one reason it would be that writers will always make him as strong as he needs to be to win via sundipping etc, wich is sort off cheap.

#31 Posted by SpiderFan1 (35 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not faulting anyone. This forum is asking why people believe he's over powered. I think this is why. Superman can move planets.

#32 Posted by SpiderFan1 (35 posts) - - Show Bio

Let's get it straight, I don't hate Superman. He's a respectable hero who paved the way for all the amazing comics we have today. I know exactly why some people think Supes is all powerful.But that's what people need to understand. DC is a world of gods. I think it's his feats that get people. I agree he's not all powerful he's just really close. So don't eat my arguments alive or whatever I'm on your side. I was just pointing out he's hard to kill. It's not easy to find any type of kryptonite or powerful magic. I know there are those who can match and surpass him in turns of power. I don't think the number exceeds 100 unless it's pre 52 and you count all living kryptonians.

#33 Posted by GunGunW (1006 posts) - - Show Bio

Funny when you think about it, in the comics they always use him as a punching bag and try to make everyone equal to or greater than him, yet in every form of media they try to make him seem "invincible"... Injustice is a good example.

#34 Edited by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

@spiderfan1 said:

I'm not faulting anyone. This forum is asking why people believe he's over powered. I think this is why. Superman can move planets.

I refer you to that list of OTHER characters that don't seem to take NEARLY as much flak as him and can do (or HAVE done) similar or greater feats while NOT possessing as many 'weaknesses' or 'susceptibilities' as he does.

Also, MARVEL is JUST as much a world of gods. The difference though is that a lot of those characters don't have nearly as much pop culture exposure or publicity.

#35 Edited by SpiderFan1 (35 posts) - - Show Bio

Again I don't think he's all powerful. Everyone heard right? I DON'T think he's over powered. I'm simply listing reasons why others think he is. I know that characters such as Thor,Shazam,the Hulk,Odin, Thano's (I do believe I could be wrong) are capable of such feats as moving or destroying planets. If I really wanted to I could name more but no offense I don't care enough to.

#36 Posted by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

Again I don't think he's all powerful. Everyone heard right? I DON'T think he's over powered. I'm simply listing reasons why others think he is. I know that characters such as Thor,Shazam,the Hulk,Odin, Thano's (I do believe I could be wrong) are capable of such feats as moving or destroying planets. If I really wanted to I could name more but no offense I don't care enough to.

Ah. My mistake then.

#37 Posted by consolemaster001 (6130 posts) - - Show Bio
#38 Edited by MonsterStomp (20644 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't really know. There are tons of villains who can shrug off Superman's attacks and smack him around with ease. H'el, Black Adam, Helspont etc. Yet they arn't considered overpowered. I guess it depends on what you consider overpowered. Is having multiple powers overpowering or is benching the weight of the world for 5 days straight overpowering?

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#39 Posted by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Adam? In what Universe?

#40 Edited by w0nd (4081 posts) - - Show Bio

They do because their lack of understanding. For every strength he has, there is a weakness to exploit it with as well. And I don't get characters like Darkseid or Mongul. They seem to matchhis strength and go on and how how they want him dead, well just go kill him? You lord over Apocalypse gloating but you never actually win, you just stand their waiting for him to die of old age, or to come to you

#41 Posted by Lvenger (21263 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm just gonna leave this here:

Where are these scans from? They're a nice reminder of how Superman really isn't overpowered.

#42 Posted by Saren (25131 posts) - - Show Bio
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#43 Posted by Lvenger (21263 posts) - - Show Bio
#44 Posted by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Action Comics Annual #10.

Hey! Your avatar! It's that one time villain from that sci-fi series that fans constantly wank to be "hard-science" base that somehow still has space magic and LOTS of use of pllebetonium without which it can't possibly work yet they still claim it to be "hard" that had a massive back-lash from its third game and that people are actually PINING for EA to close them down like they did with Westwood and Origin systems.

#45 Posted by Saren (25131 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizenbane said:

@lvenger: Action Comics Annual #10.

Hey! Your avatar! It's that one time villain from that sci-fi series that fans constantly wank to be "hard-science" base that somehow still has space magic and LOTS of use of pllebetonium without which it can't possibly work yet they still claim it to be "hard" that had a massive back-lash from its third game and that people are actually PINING for EA to close them down like they did with Westwood and Origin systems.

Do you often go on tangential rants that have nothing to do with the topic at hand or am I just special?

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#46 Edited by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

@hewhosees said:

@citizenbane said:

@lvenger: Action Comics Annual #10.

Hey! Your avatar! It's that one time villain from that sci-fi series that fans constantly wank to be "hard-science" base that somehow still has space magic and LOTS of use of pllebetonium without which it can't possibly work yet they still claim it to be "hard" that had a massive back-lash from its third game and that people are actually PINING for EA to close them down like they did with Westwood and Origin systems.

Do you often go on tangential rants that have nothing to do with the topic at hand or am I just special?

That wasn't a rant. That was merely observational.

I liked your other avatar better by the way.

Anyways, onto the subject, what are real life ways of breaking the news to people that Supes HASN'T been over-powered for longer than I've been alive?

#47 Posted by Skulexander (109 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, when you listen to fans argue about whether Superman or some other person would win in a fight (Hulk, Batman, Goku), they sure make it SOUND like Superman is overpowered.

#48 Edited by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, when you listen to fans argue about whether Superman or some other person would win in a fight (Hulk, Batman, Goku), they sure make it SOUND like Superman is overpowered.

Yeah, but that's true for EVERY character who would win in a fight, and only then, when PIS/CIS is off and bloodlusting is on.

#49 Posted by Skulexander (109 posts) - - Show Bio

@hewhosees: Yeah. But you see it especially when fans are arguing about Superman, Batman, Hulk, and/or Goku. When they're recounting all these uber powerful feats that seem over-the-top. It can make all of them seem overpowered.

#50 Posted by xxxddd (3593 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

Where are these scans from? They're a nice reminder of how Superman really isn't overpowered.

Superman is overpowered, that's why writers come up with a weakness that everyone knows and has access to more easily than water so that he doesn't stomp everyone in his way.