#1 Posted by RelloMan (62 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm sure this topic has been beaten to death on here one way or another, and I'm sorry... I'm just curious

I can't really gauge the consensus here... Is it a good movie, or a bad movie?

I hear good things, I hear bad things... Superman killing Zod doesn't seem like a big deal to me, but a lot of people seem to hate it...

The darker tone it takes was clearly influenced by the Dark Knight movies, but it gave the movie a "Year One" kinda feel IMO... And at least they didn't shroud the action in darkness, you saw everything in broad daylight

So what in your opinions did the movie fail on, and what did it do right (specifically the stuff that wasn't right out of the comics)?

#2 Posted by Perethorn (3754 posts) - - Show Bio

The movie fails with Supes costume, other than that, i have no complains.

#3 Edited by Saint_Wildcard (12037 posts) - - Show Bio

This thread has been done to death. I loved the movie that's all Im going to say.

#4 Posted by mikex20 (2771 posts) - - Show Bio

Killing yourself for a dog is kind of stupid.

#5 Posted by AllStarSuperman (22976 posts) - - Show Bio

Only complaint is Pa Kent. Other then that its my favorite movie.

#6 Edited by Hazlenaut (1935 posts) - - Show Bio

@mikex20:

It not just the rescue dog but his dad just stands there waiting to be killed. That is mess up what kind of lesson is that is letting yourself be killed in order to protect your sons identity.

#7 Posted by Fallschirmjager (18949 posts) - - Show Bio

In my opinion its a good movie.

This thread will turn into a Marvel vs DC wankfest though.

#8 Edited by The Stegman (26007 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Bad pacing, for example, Superman is being detained by the cops and says "screw this, I'm leaving' then BOOM jump cut to him and Lois back outside...wow.

2. Jonathan not dying for a dog, but rather standing there while the tornado slowly approaches him, yeah, his leg is messed up, but damn, limp your a** out of harm's way.

that's the only gripes I have with the film.

PS-Amy Adams knows how to wear a pants suit, mmm.

#9 Posted by RelloMan (62 posts) - - Show Bio

The number one thing I take into consideration, and I think Snyder is on record saying this... This is Superman's first adventure... E.g. He didn't know exactly how to be the Superman that we know and love...

Most of the big mistakes the movie makes can easily be used to a learning point... I'm sure there's going to be a trial in the next movie... I'd bet money on that... Then he's going to learn to avoid the devastation they went through in the first film, the trauma from killing Zod could explain why he doesn't just punch a hole in Lex Luthor's head...

Ya get what I'm saying?

#10 Posted by Knightfall225 (1998 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually loved the movie. Dont see where all the hate is coming from. Superman was supposed to kill Zod. it gives him a reason to never kill again in MOS2 and future films.

#11 Posted by LyraFay (2536 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought it was good. It's actually the only superhero movie I've seen thus year. But I don't all this hate. It did its job, it reintroduced Superman back to mainstream audiences and established an potential DC cinematic universe. And people now complaining about that Batman in the sequel will just make it worst. Batman was going to appear within the universe sooner rather than later, get over it!

#12 Posted by Magmaster12 (62 posts) - - Show Bio

The movie lacks any real depth, all the characters are simply archetypes to play a role in the overwhelming amount of themes in the movie.

#13 Edited by RelloMan (62 posts) - - Show Bio

@magmaster12 said:

The movie lacks any real depth, all the characters are simply archetypes to play a role in the overwhelming amount of themes in the movie.

Well finally someone that didn't like it...

Now how do u mean? What archetypes were being played?

#14 Posted by PeppeyHare (4310 posts) - - Show Bio

Lack of character development and bad pacing are my only real problems with it.

#15 Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee (12592 posts) - - Show Bio

This thread has been done to death. I loved the movie that's all Im going to say.

#16 Posted by CuddleBear (1245 posts) - - Show Bio

the movie was scared to let superman be superman. they thought they had to do brooding emo superman

@mikex20 said:

Killing yourself for a dog is kind of stupid.

also this times a million

#17 Edited by toptom (1266 posts) - - Show Bio

......another one......

I think i am going to snap my neck.

#18 Edited by silent_bomber (2197 posts) - - Show Bio

Didn't mind him killing Zod at all personally.

What did bother me was was that "Superman" in the movie acted emotionally detached and didn't seem to even remotely care about anyone bar his suicidal, dimwitted, selfish father. He wasn't idealistic, or optimistic either, he was just a miserable, brooding loner living in a bleak, cold, harsh world of destruction. There was also no chemistry between him and Lois at all, their relationship was one dimensional and painfully underdeveloped, heck there was barely any warmth between him and any of the other characters.

#19 Edited by SandMan_ (4528 posts) - - Show Bio

@silent_bomber: some of those are legit, but they wanted a more human flawed Superman here.

#20 Edited by Squares (8392 posts) - - Show Bio

It was boring, the pacing was bad, and the director doesn't seem to understand the whole concept of 'rising/falling action'.

#21 Edited by Magmaster12 (62 posts) - - Show Bio

@sandman_: But that's even more boring, this movie basically just turned him into Batman!

#22 Posted by Saint_Wildcard (12037 posts) - - Show Bio

@sandman_: But that's even more boring, this movie basically just turned him into Batman!

How so? I saw it twice and didnt think Batman especially a the end when he talks to the General and goes to the Daily Planet.

#23 Posted by SandMan_ (4528 posts) - - Show Bio

@magmaster12: I don't remember Superman getting his parents shot right in front of him and he saying he'll become a creature of the night....

#24 Edited by Saint_Wildcard (12037 posts) - - Show Bio

@sandman_ said:

@magmaster12: I don't remember Superman getting his parents shot right in front of him and he saying he'll become a creature of the night....

I think I heard that might be in the deleted scenes.

#25 Posted by The Stegman (26007 posts) - - Show Bio

@sandman_ said:

@magmaster12: I don't remember Superman getting his parents shot right in front of him and he saying he'll become a creature of the night....

I think I heard that might be in the deleted scenes.

It was a deleted scene, Zod killed the family with his heat vision and Superman vowed vengeance :P

I AM THE NIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#26 Posted by SandMan_ (4528 posts) - - Show Bio
#27 Posted by Saint_Wildcard (12037 posts) - - Show Bio

@saint_rog_el said:

@sandman_ said:

@magmaster12: I don't remember Superman getting his parents shot right in front of him and he saying he'll become a creature of the night....

I think I heard that might be in the deleted scenes.

It was a deleted scene, Zod killed the family with his heat vision and Superman vowed vengeance :P

I AM THE NIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#28 Posted by SandMan_ (4528 posts) - - Show Bio
#29 Posted by Magmaster12 (62 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow you guys are morons, I meant personality wise.

#30 Edited by Saint_Wildcard (12037 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow you guys are morons, I meant personality wise.

Sticks and stones may break my bones.... but words will hurt forever