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#1 Posted by Kellerman (50 posts) - - Show Bio

If you've been reading the comic's, Batman's just too stubborn and too cocky,always feels he can win somehow.I think that needs to be stopped with this comic. He made a team to try to stop Superman from getting ultimate peace because he doesn't believe in the killing(Example: Kalibak,and his army). Plus it will end all of the stupid Superman vs Batman debates forever.

#2 Posted by w0nd (3444 posts) - - Show Bio

no it wouldn't end it because it's an elseworld so if superman beats him he didn't be "THE ONE TRUE BATMAN" just like "THE ONE TRUE SUPERMAN" would never go bad like this one.

#3 Posted by Kellerman (50 posts) - - Show Bio

@w0nd: Still worth a scan to show or a video like what happened to Captain Marvel.

#4 Posted by Bogey (946 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol.. Achieve Ultimate Peace by creating authoritarian rule with an super powered police state.. haha.

#5 Posted by Kellerman (50 posts) - - Show Bio

@bogey: Less death in general. You know your doing something wrong when you have to mourn over Joker's death.

#6 Posted by drgnx (3564 posts) - - Show Bio

Well if you ask me, 2 Batmen needed to call in a Superman to take out Superman, so you have your moral victory right there.

#7 Edited by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

Want a definitive answer to Superman vs Batman? Read Superman/Batman #1... It's canon. It's got no prep involved. And it's pretty much an accurate depiction of what would logically happen between the two of them.

#8 Edited by w0nd (3444 posts) - - Show Bio
@kellerman said:

@bogey: Less death in general. You know your doing something wrong when you have to mourn over Joker's death.

Less death but i am sure they have curfews. ideals, broadcasting and such forced upon them. You can't even say anything bad about him or he will hear you and kill you lol. One of his FRIENDS said his idea sounded crazy, and he melted his brain.

I am not justifying Batman's methods though. Him defending the repeated murders in arkham was annoying

#9 Posted by Kellerman (50 posts) - - Show Bio

@w0nd: He brought up Lois saying she wouldn't want him to do this, he got upset because he was doing it FOR Lois. So that same thing would never ever happen again.

#10 Edited by w0nd (3444 posts) - - Show Bio

@w0nd: He brought up Lois saying she wouldn't want him to do this, he got upset because he was doing it FOR Lois. So that same thing would never ever happen again.

I know why he did it, it doesn't make it any less insane. Especially when he was going to take over another universe entirely. Imagine what he would do when that lois rejects him. He would lose his sh*t

#11 Posted by Kellerman (50 posts) - - Show Bio

@w0nd: He already lost his sh.t when he thought Doomsday was Lois and accidentally took her to space. Btw the reason why the Batman death would be justified is him betraying Superman. He didn't even tell him the President was behind having his mom and dad kidnapped and threatening to kill them. COME ON. -_-

#12 Posted by TDK_1997 (14896 posts) - - Show Bio

In the situation Batman and Superman are in in Injustice Batman is the right one.I stand behind him and I will defend him till the end of the comic.While for all of the Batman vs. Superman debates - the easy answer is Greg Pak's Batman/Superman #1.

#13 Posted by w0nd (3444 posts) - - Show Bio

@w0nd: He already lost his sh.t when he thought Doomsday was Lois and accidentally took her to space. Btw the reason why the Batman death would be justified is him betraying Superman. He didn't even tell him the President was behind having his mom and dad kidnapped and threatening to kill them. COME ON. -_-

Did batman help get his parents back? I honestly don't remember too long ago. But none of those points you listed make me want to side with superman, they are just reasons why superman went insane.

#14 Posted by sage1000 (67 posts) - - Show Bio

From what I've read so far, pls keep in mind I have no knowledge of what happens in the game so far Batman has been a very annoying character,mourning the death of Joker defending the Arkham asylum inmates, abandoning his son, keeping critical information from other characters and then going behind their backs etc makes him very very difficult to like. If he had stayed and applied some common sense he could have been an adequate balance to Diana aggression and now Luthor's possible machinations but noooooo he had to go and make himself an enemy.

Yes Superman as taken a lot of questionable decisions and some incredibly shortsighted ones at that but at the core of it he wants to do good and Bruce was in a prime position to help guide that anger and frustration into something positive but he didn't cause he was still mourning the death of his beloved Joker. Okay I admit I might not be an exact representation of what happened but it does not change the fact that Bruce really screwed up here.

#15 Posted by Dernman (15115 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't believe people are actually defending Superman and can't see he's the badguy in the comic.

#16 Posted by OhItsThatGuy (791 posts) - - Show Bio

@kellerman: What's the point of having your life, if it's no longer in your control?

#17 Posted by sage1000 (67 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman: Not defending his actions and I can see how it comes across like that, I'm just condemning most of Batman's action, he is no hero to me in this story.

#18 Edited by Dernman (15115 posts) - - Show Bio

@sage1000: I have to disagree. He's sees what Superman is doing, becoming and he's trying to stop it. Rightfully so. Heck if the real Superman were there he would stop him.

#19 Posted by The_Lunact_And_Manic (3286 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman said:

I can't believe people are actually defending Superman and can't see he's the badguy in the comic.

#20 Edited by OhItsThatGuy (791 posts) - - Show Bio

@sage1000: Batman is a hero. He just understands that for there to be any real change, that it has to be made by the people of Earth, and of their own will. To just grab power, and kill whoever you think is guilty, leads to bad things happening. Batman also understands why it's terrible to lose power, and become a victim, for that is what made him Batman in the first place. He can uniquely see how Superman is becoming the very evil Batman has sworn to fight.

#21 Edited by BiteMe-Fanboy (7865 posts) - - Show Bio

If he was wearing the MOS outfit he probably would have. ;)

#22 Posted by PowerHerc (84035 posts) - - Show Bio

No.

Superman is a friend of Batman's. Superman shouldn't kill his friend.

#23 Posted by Al_capOWN (534 posts) - - Show Bio

Who cares about what happens in this series, is non canon and non existing in the "real world"

#24 Posted by sage1000 (67 posts) - - Show Bio

@ohitsthatguy:

@sage1000: Batman is a hero. He just understands that for there to be any real change, that it has to be made by the people of Earth, and of their own will. To just grab power, and kill whoever you think is guilty, leads to bad things happening. Batman also understands why it's terrible to lose power, and become a victim, for that is what made him Batman in the first place. He can uniquely see how Superman is becoming the very evil Batman has sworn to fight.

I'm not saying Batman does not understand, my grouse with him comes from the way he chooses to act on that information. It would be way easier and better for him to try and temper Superman's action with friendly advice than to decide to act in opposition. I believe if Batman went this route things won't have escalated as quickly as it is going to now.

It was not as if Superman started out wanting to rule the world even up till now he still doesn't want to rule, he just wants peace and has been applying some very shortsighted solutions to the problem and that is where Batman could have helped draft better proactive solutions that just brute force. To me he may have the moral right and that is even debatable but he is a dick both to his friend and his son.

#25 Posted by Kellerman (50 posts) - - Show Bio

@w0nd: No he didn't. Superman came crashing into his Batcave asking him "Where were you?" and then noticed that he was grieving over Joker's death.( that right there should end a friendship.) Btw.

#26 Posted by Jpgman (69 posts) - - Show Bio

@biteme_fanboy said:

If he was wearing the MOS outfit he probably would have. ;)

Bringing up MOS is kind of uncalled for especially since the Superman from Injustice does kill (and far more regularly than MOS Superman does)

#27 Posted by Kellerman (50 posts) - - Show Bio

@jpgman: And then later in the comic he should add batman, since he's not holding back no more.

#28 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33483 posts) - - Show Bio

No.

Superman is a friend of Batman's. Superman shouldn't kill his friend.

So was Green Arrow and Shazam and he killed them

#29 Posted by Jpgman (69 posts) - - Show Bio

@kellerman: I really doubt he'll kill Batman, he's alive in the game. His next victim will be without a doubt Green Arrow.

#30 Posted by Kellerman (50 posts) - - Show Bio

@jpgman: Oh wow, I could see why he would kill Green Arrow, with him helping Harley and all. Man I've read the Injustice 1-25 3 times already and still cant get enough. You know when the next issue is coming out?

#31 Posted by Jpgman (69 posts) - - Show Bio

@kellerman: Yeah, I think Green Arrow will die in the current arc, the series has been kinda static for the last few issues so they need a big game changer, even bigger than another dead criminal, a dead hero, or heroes since I'm sure most of Batman's insurgency will start getting killed as well after GA dies.

Next issue is probably out next Tuesday, like always :P

#32 Posted by Z3RO180 (6560 posts) - - Show Bio

@kellerman: he cant kill batman because the comic is a prequel to the game and batman is in the main story of the game

#33 Posted by Justthatkid (3973 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it ending with Superman beating the Chancelor Superman was great because in all honesty Batman Superfan or not, Batman can't beat Superman so it ended well for me.

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#34 Edited by THEOCITYLEGEND (1208 posts) - - Show Bio

That is an extremely stupid idea. There is just so much wrong with it it blows my mind.

#35 Posted by Black_Claw (2989 posts) - - Show Bio

@kellerman said:

If you've been reading the comic's, Batman's just too stubborn and too cocky,always feels he can win somehow.I think that needs to be stopped with this comic. He made a team to try to stop Superman from getting ultimate peace because he doesn't believe in the killing(Example: Kalibak,and his army). Plus it will end all of the stupid Superman vs Batman debates forever.

The events of the game already show he's not gonna kill bats. But the stakes are likely to be much higher in a sequel due to that sequel hook at the end of story mode.

#36 Edited by drgnx (3564 posts) - - Show Bio

comic comes out Every Tuesday!

Batman won't die, and the comic is a prequel to the game .. I think

#37 Edited by OhItsThatGuy (791 posts) - - Show Bio

@sage1000: Superman was made a victim for the first time of his life, and was made highly-unstable because of it. Batman chose the safe and practical route of planning a contingency force against Superman. It wasn't the nicest thing, but it's totally in-character with who Batman is. Batman doesn't trust anyone 100%. Also, Superman forced the Israeli and Palestinian leadership to make a peace treaty, or be vaporized by his heat vision. He's blatantly disrespecting the sovereignty of nations, threatening world leaders with harm, and sticking himself in a hornets' nest that he knows next to nothing about. He's probably made the Middle East into an even more volatile region, in the name of "peace." He's out of control. Batman doing what he's doing makes sense. Furthermore, even if Batman were to work with Superman in the beginning, it would fall apart for Batman doesn't believe in taking human life. I'd like to also add that Batman's reaction to Damien killing Dick was totally believable. Do you just expect Batman to go, "Whoops. Sure, you killed my adopted son, but no biggie?" C'mon. It doesn't matter that Robin didn't mean to kill him. He threw the escrima stick that led to Dick breaking his neck. He'd be tried for murder, if the law was actually applied to him like other people.

#38 Edited by Kellerman (50 posts) - - Show Bio

@ohitsthatguy: It was his fault anyway kept egging him on about defending the murders.

#39 Edited by OhItsThatGuy (791 posts) - - Show Bio
#40 Posted by Kellerman (50 posts) - - Show Bio

@ohitsthatguy: He got mad,thew the stick and an accident happened. Nuff said.

#41 Posted by dagmar_merrill (8699 posts) - - Show Bio

I want to see Batman go crazy and do something like this.

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#42 Posted by OhItsThatGuy (791 posts) - - Show Bio

@kellerman: And that was a terrible thing to do.

#43 Posted by sage1000 (67 posts) - - Show Bio

@sage1000: Superman was made a victim for the first time of his life, and was made highly-unstable because of it. Batman chose the safe and practical route of planning a contingency force against Superman. It wasn't the nicest thing, but it's totally in-character with who Batman is. Batman doesn't trust anyone 100%. Also, Superman forced the Israeli and Palestinian leadership to make a peace treaty, or be vaporized by his heat vision. He's blatantly disrespecting the sovereignty of nations, threatening world leaders with harm, and sticking himself in a hornets' nest that he knows next to nothing about. He's probably made the Middle East into an even more volatile region, in the name of "peace." He's out of control. Batman doing what he's doing makes sense. Furthermore, even if Batman were to work with Superman in the beginning, it would fall apart for Batman doesn't believe in taking human life. I'd like to also add that Batman's reaction to Damien killing Dick was totally believable. Do you just expect Batman to go, "Whoops. Sure, you killed my adopted son, but no biggie?" C'mon. It doesn't matter that Robin didn't mean to kill him. He threw the escrima stick that led to Dick breaking his neck. He'd be tried for murder, if the law was actually applied to him like other people.

Batman made the contingency plan before Superman went unstable. It was his contingency plan that made Superman lose almost everything he held dear. Yeah going the safe and practical route is fine, it doesn't mean you antagonize an already emotionally unstable person further and grieving for Joker was absolutely ridiculous, I mean who grieves for a known sociopath responsible for the destruction of a whole city and your supposedly best friend wife and unborn child.

I should add Superman doesn't also believe in taking life willy nilly but of truly despicable characters like joker that actually deserve it and no chance the guy would ever be rehabilitated. The Arkam asylum inmates where transferred to more secure prison and not the execution chamber and Batman's reaction there was completely stupid and irrational, the behavior of a child whose toys where just taken away from him.

I can't recall a single instance in the comic where he actually asks Superman how he was doing, not even once. Yes he lost his adopted son and has a right to be angry, yes Damien should be tried for his crime but that doesn't mean he stopped being his father. His son just went through a traumatic experience accidentally killing someone he considers a brother and the dude basically kicks him out. In the end he lost two sons instead of one.

#44 Posted by PowerWoman (3380 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman kill batman,and then to sex with wonder woman

lol

#45 Posted by Kellerman (50 posts) - - Show Bio

@sage1000: Couldn't have said it any better.

#46 Posted by russellmania77 (15437 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh that's cool, superman beating batman In injustice, if something like that can end this debate than why the hell couldn't bat fans use DKR or red son as proof along time ago?? BECAUSE ITS NOT CANON

#47 Edited by Kellerman (50 posts) - - Show Bio

@russellmania77: I doubt it would match anything if Superman ripped Batman's head off, and its not just beat, its KILL batman.

#48 Edited by Strongarm (5857 posts) - - Show Bio

#49 Posted by OhItsThatGuy (791 posts) - - Show Bio

@sage1000: Batman's contingency plans never helped to push Superman into crazy town. It was Superman's own grief, his newfound fear, and Wonder Woman's enabling attitude which did. Batman doesn't grieve for Joker. No one hates the Joker more than Batman. Superman, in his grief, stupidly accuses Batman of that. Batman simply understands himself much better than Superman does, and knows that if he were to kill the Joker, he's be psychologically compelled to kill every other super villain on Earth. He's be compelled to take control. Batman understands that absolute power corrupts absolutely. Superman does not, for he's never been on the other side of the power scale til just recently. That lesson of what it means to be powerless and powerful is what Batman has grappled with for years. And that's not true. It just starts with sociopaths like Joker. It later turns to world leaders, superheroes that oppose Superman, and normal people like you and me. That's the point of where Batman is trying to get at. Power corrupts. Also, Damien kills Nightwing. To hold it against Batman that he feels strongly about his death is ridiculous. If someone kill a person you loved a lot, would it matter to you if it was an accident? If a drunk driver kills your kid, does it make the pain and the loss any less?

#50 Posted by russellmania77 (15437 posts) - - Show Bio