#1 Edited by Z3RO180 (6326 posts) - - Show Bio

Are their any book where supes is a cosmic hero ? Also could a title where supes is a cosmic hero work out ? I think it could.

#2 Posted by deaditegonzo (3683 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it could work, and may be an improvement in some ways. I will have to think about any existing examples where he is a cosmic hero the whole time, and not just shown as such for a couple of pages (like in Final Crisis where he destroys ALE Darkseid who is a multiversal destroyer and stands up to an evil Anti-Monitor in the abyss).

#3 Edited by consolemaster001 (4976 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it could work, and may be an improvement in some ways. I will have to think about any existing examples where he is a cosmic hero the whole time, and not just shown as such for a couple of pages (like in Final Crisis where he destroys ALE Darkseid who is a multiversal destroyer and stands up to an evil Anti-Monitor in the abyss).

Pretty much my answer

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#4 Posted by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

Wouldn't we need to come up with some cosmic villains for him to fight then?

For inspiration, I suggest we look to cosmic marvel!

#5 Edited by deaditegonzo (3683 posts) - - Show Bio

Wouldn't we need to come up with some cosmic villains for him to fight then?

For inspiration, I suggest we look to cosmic marvel!

Well, Brainiac is truly a cosmic villain. Darkseid. He could take on Sinestro (Sorry Hal, sometimes its a job for Superman). But yeah, theyd probably need to add more.

#6 Posted by Supes1903 (137 posts) - - Show Bio

Helspont has already been introduced in the new52 as a Superman villain. I think they're going in the right direction now.

#7 Posted by consolemaster001 (4976 posts) - - Show Bio

Helspont has already been introduced in the new52 as a Superman villain. I think they're going in the right direction now.

#8 Posted by Crash_Recovery (850 posts) - - Show Bio

In Superman's own books he's had many off-world adventures, so in that sense he is a bit of a cosmic hero.

#9 Posted by deaditegonzo (3683 posts) - - Show Bio

@supes1903 said:

Helspont has already been introduced in the new52 as a Superman villain. I think they're going in the right direction now.

#10 Posted by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

Why did Thor go into the Cosmos for as long as he did?

#11 Posted by KnightRise (4785 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably a bad idea. Superman isn't just about how powerful he is. Superman is about what he stands for.

#12 Posted by guttridgeb (4831 posts) - - Show Bio

As a general rule, I prefer it when he stays in Metropolis because the city is such an integral part of Superman.

That said, I think it could work if Superman was somewhat more cosmic in one of his titles but Earth-based in the others.

#13 Posted by toptom (1155 posts) - - Show Bio

In Superman's own books he's had many off-world adventures, so in that sense he is a bit of a cosmic hero.

this of course.

Probably a bad idea. Superman isn't just about how powerful he is. Superman is about what he stands for.

you are partially right. Superman is mainly about what he stands for (justice,hope,ecc..) but he is also about power,and some stories representing him more as a cosmic hero won't be bad for him.

however we will have a short run on action comics ( which starts with issue # 22) that will represent him more as such. i really hope that it will be a good story arc.

#14 Posted by deaditegonzo (3683 posts) - - Show Bio

@toptom said:

@crash_recovery said:

In Superman's own books he's had many off-world adventures, so in that sense he is a bit of a cosmic hero.

this of course.

@knightrise said:

Probably a bad idea. Superman isn't just about how powerful he is. Superman is about what he stands for.

you are partially right. Superman is mainly about what he stands for (justice,hope,ecc..) but he is also about power,and some stories representing him more as a cosmic hero won't be bad for him.

however we will have a short run on action comics ( which starts with issue # 22) that will represent him more as such. i really hope that it will be a good story arc.

Im excited. Lobdell's taking over, so maybe we can get a consistent Supes across his titles!

#15 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

As a cosmic hero? It could work but he works better sticking to Earth as he's viewed as the Protector and more importantly, the inspiration for humanity. He's a symbol of hope and something for people to aspire to.

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#16 Posted by KnightRise (4785 posts) - - Show Bio

@toptom: What I mean is his main title should not become him waging war on Apokolips and meeting Emotional Entities

#17 Edited by toptom (1155 posts) - - Show Bio

@deaditegonzo said:

@toptom said:

@crash_recovery said:

In Superman's own books he's had many off-world adventures, so in that sense he is a bit of a cosmic hero.

this of course.

@knightrise said:

Probably a bad idea. Superman isn't just about how powerful he is. Superman is about what he stands for.

you are partially right. Superman is mainly about what he stands for (justice,hope,ecc..) but he is also about power,and some stories representing him more as a cosmic hero won't be bad for him.

however we will have a short run on action comics ( which starts with issue # 22) that will represent him more as such. i really hope that it will be a good story arc.

Im excited. Lobdell's taking over, so maybe we can get a consistent Supes across his titles!

i am excited too( i am not a lobdell hater),even if i am going to miss tony daniel on AC : his short run seems to be fantastic!

@knightrise said:

@toptom: What I mean is his main title should not become him waging war on Apokolips and meeting Emotional Entities

..well those things could be great IF they are well done. however representing supes (sometimes) as a cosmic hero can be a refreshing and an interesting take on his character, but as you say, they don't have to be the majority.

#18 Edited by deaditegonzo (3683 posts) - - Show Bio
  • The Majority of Superman stories should still take place on Earth, where he is a symbol of Hope and a protector of the People.
  • A Cosmic Superman story, maybe (especially) him waging war on Apokolips, could be awesome if done well.

Huzzah, we have all come to a Gentlemen/lady's agreement. Reginald fetch my pen so I may write my good friend Jim Lee.

#19 Posted by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

Does anyone here think they should add in newer cosmic level baddies for him to fight on the scale of Mongul, Darkseid, and etc?

#20 Posted by deaditegonzo (3683 posts) - - Show Bio

Does anyone here think they should add in newer cosmic level baddies for him to fight on the scale of Mongul, Darkseid, and etc?

Definitely, and I hope to see more Helspont. Also, writers need to be less afraid of Superman's power.

#21 Posted by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

@hewhosees said:

Does anyone here think they should add in newer cosmic level baddies for him to fight on the scale of Mongul, Darkseid, and etc?

Definitely, and I hope to see more Helspont. Also, writers need to be less afraid of Superman's power.

Whose Helspont?

#22 Posted by deaditegonzo (3683 posts) - - Show Bio

This dude. He BACKHANDED Supes into the moon and gave him a concussion. He has telepathic abilities. He is like what Darkseid used to be back in the day.

#23 Posted by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

This dude. He BACKHANDED Supes into the moon and gave him a concussion. He has telepathic abilities. He is like what Darkseid used to be back in the day.

What's his deal and his story?

#24 Posted by deaditegonzo (3683 posts) - - Show Bio

http://www.comicvine.com/helspont/4005-40632/

He is originally a Wildstorm character, which I confess I never read much of. But in the New 52 he is a usurped leader of the Alien Daemonites, who came to the Earth, really for the soul purpose of toppling the daemonites who over threw him. He wanted to make Superman his weapon in doing so, with the benefit to Superman supposedly being that the humans would be left alive, but Supes said no deal and attacked, initially dropping a mountain on him. The next encounter did not go well for Superman at all.

#25 Posted by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

Ah yes, the daemonites. Aren't they the sworn enemy of Majestic's race of mini-Darkseid's/Dr.Dooms? called the Kherum?

#26 Posted by deaditegonzo (3683 posts) - - Show Bio

@hewhosees: I believe so yes. Of course Majestic seems to be something new altogether, in the New 52.

#27 Edited by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

@hewhosees: I believe so yes. Of course Majestic seems to be something new altogether, in the New 52.

Tell me more. All I really have to go on for Majestic is his entry on this site and Captain Atom: Armageddon and Majestic: Strange Visitor (the arc in Superman, I think, collected in a four issue trade paper back).

#28 Posted by deaditegonzo (3683 posts) - - Show Bio

@hewhosees: There may be people a lot more familiar with Wildstorm better suited to give you the run down. Like I said, I never really read Wildstorm, I only know the New 52 characters. In the New 52 Majestic is tied to some clandestine organization, and their experiments, although there is reference to some initial assault on the world from Majestros. Im not solid on the deets for him, as his story is mainly told in books I dont read a lot of (Team 7, and one other).

#29 Posted by toptom (1155 posts) - - Show Bio

  • The Majority of Superman stories should still take place on Earth, where he is a symbol of Hope and a protector of the People.
  • A Cosmic Superman story, maybe (especially) him waging war on Apokolips, could be awesome if done well.

Huzzah, we have all come to a Gentlemen/lady's agreement. Reginald fetch my pen so I may write my good friend Jim Lee.

@hewhosees said:

Does anyone here think they should add in newer cosmic level baddies for him to fight on the scale of Mongul, Darkseid, and etc?

Definitely, and I hope to see more Helspont. Also, writers need to be less afraid of Superman's power.

...i agree soo much

#30 Posted by UltimateSMfan (1374 posts) - - Show Bio

As a cosmic hero? It could work but he works better sticking to Earth as he's viewed as the Protector and more importantly, the inspiration for humanity. He's a symbol of hope and something for people to aspire to.

This, superman is for earth,him leaving it wld be out of character.

#31 Edited by Billy Batson (57784 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman: Exile.

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#32 Edited by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

I prefer Superman as a space hero without being too powerful. The New Gods use mother boxes to get around. Superman can also use kryptonian gadgets to open warps or kryptonian ships to have space adventures. Marvel is using Iron Man to help promote Guardians of the Galaxy. Dc can use Superman to help promote a new space team or a reboot of the old space team Legion. For a new space team, can go with the more popular characters like Hal Jordan, Superman, Lobo, etc. to help out the less popular characters like Darkstars, Vega people, Vril Dox, etc. For a Legion reboot, Superman can use a Legion ring to open star gates or use a Legion ship like the good old days.

#33 Posted by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman: Exile.

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I saw that once in my local library...was that an elseworld's thing or what because I rarely see it mentioned.

#34 Posted by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

Alright, a friend of mine came up with an idea on how a cosmic arc involving him could work.

First though, anyone ever heard of Power Rangers Lost Galaxy?

#35 Posted by Billy Batson (57784 posts) - - Show Bio

@billy_batson said:

Superman: Exile.

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I saw that once in my local library...was that an elseworld's thing or what because I rarely see it mentioned.

Nah, it was a regular arc.

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#36 Posted by sage1000 (67 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd love to see a cosmic superman arc. For example he teams up with Orion, Lobo, Darkseid, Maxima and other cosmic characters that I can't think of right now to the beings imprisoned at the source wall from returning

#37 Posted by PowerWoman (3331 posts) - - Show Bio

superman was universe hero

#38 Edited by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman vs Imperiex (Our Worlds At War) was a big story that also involved Darkseid so that could be considered a cosmic story. Final Crisis had Mandrakk and Darkseid. The upcoming multiverse story involving earth 2 could be a cosmic story. It would be fun to see Superman and Hal Jordan lead a space team that includes Lobo, Vril Dox, etc.

#39 Posted by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

Okay everybody, here's my idea:

You know how there are 28 known Galaxies according to the Oans? Well...what if, there was another one, and, for some reason or another, Supes suddenly found himself transported to that galaxy. A LOST GALAXY, if you will, with all new threats and dangers and with the main goal of the arc to be to find a way back to familiar space via space ship (like Power Rangers Lost Galaxy, only with an ACTUAL Lost Galaxy) while also dealing with the said cosmic threats and dangers?