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#1 Posted by Lvenger (19373 posts) - - Show Bio

It seems my least favourite Superman writer, Scott Lobdell, will be kicking off the storyline he teased back in Superman #0 - Every End Has a Beginning.... Now this is just a rumour with no official confirmation from Bleeding Cool but they've been right about a lot of things so far. Anyway, at the end of H'El on Earth, H'El ended up in the past on Krypton. And it seems in Action Comics Annual 2 that a Krypton Returns storyline will be coming in October.

Also, in the second Teen Titans Annual, Superboy will be fighting Superboy. AKA Jon Lane Kent, the Superboy of the future vs the present New 52 Superboy. Here's the info

ACTION COMICS ANNUAL #2

Written by SCOTT LOBDELL

Art by KENNETH ROCAFORT, DAN JURGENS and NORM RAPMUND

Cover by KENNETH ROCAFORT

On sale OCTOBER 30 • 48 pg, FC, $4.99 US • RATED T

Part 1 of “KRYPTON RETURNS,” continuing next month! What does this mean to the Universe? Superman, Supergirl and Superboy are enlisted by the Oracle to go back to their homeworld and correct what the villainous H’El has done! This epic adventure spans eons, from Krypton’s savage past of Clones to the very minutes before Kal-El’s ship is sent into space! You only think you know what happened in the last days of Krypton!

TEEN TITANS ANNUAL #2

Written by SCOTT LOBDELL

Art by ANGEL UNZUETA and ART THIBERT

Cover by EDDY BARROWS and • EBER FERREIRA

On sale OCTOBER 30 • 48 pg, FC, $4.99 US • RATED T

Leading into next month’s landmark issue #25, the Teen Titans continue their trip through time as the team must confront Jon Lane Kent, the Superboy of the future, who could one day wipe out the most powerful heroes on Earth. Can the Titan’s Superboy defeat the man he was cloned from by Harvest?

#2 Edited by Lvenger (19373 posts) - - Show Bio

Any thoughts on this Superman fans of the Vine?

#3 Posted by w0nd (3293 posts) - - Show Bio

their version of prime?

#4 Edited by KnightRise (4785 posts) - - Show Bio

Hey Jon Lane Kent's costume looks like the classic Superboy!

#5 Posted by Saren (25619 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't think of a single writer working currently who gets away with the ludicrous amount of exposition that Lobdell does. If you don't understand what's going on, don't worry! Clark's inner monologue will explain every minute detail! In every panel! On every page! Forever!

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#6 Edited by Z3RO180 (6471 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Not a big fan of Jon Kent's costume ( yeah Jon Lent giving a character two last names is dumb IMO ) anyway I want to see if Jon has more powers other than TK and how powerful he is compared to Superboy plus I want to see Clarks reaction to meeting his future son. I'm a bit gutted that its lobdell doing this story because I was looking forward to diggle a awesome writing and Daniels awesome art. Also eddy barrows isn't a great artist IMO I would rather prefer Rocafort doing the art.

#7 Posted by Z3RO180 (6471 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: was their any solicits for superman unchained ?

#8 Posted by Lvenger (19373 posts) - - Show Bio

@z3ro180: Apparently Jon Kent is more powerful than Superman and Superboy in turn has the potential to be more powerful than Jon Kent. Won't ever come to that though.

@w0nd said:

their version of prime?

Not sure. If he whines a lot, it will be.

#9 Edited by SmashBrawler (5652 posts) - - Show Bio

That "Krypton Returns" story feels somewhat familiar...

#10 Posted by Z3RO180 (6471 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: so basically they are somewhat matched .

#11 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33083 posts) - - Show Bio
#12 Posted by Justthatkid (3538 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Why isn't this in superboy's forum?

#13 Posted by Justthatkid (3538 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: And this looks like Jon Kent. Superman's son.

#14 Posted by DEGRAAF (7876 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually find this very interesting (Both of them) I like the classic costume look.

#15 Posted by Lvenger (19373 posts) - - Show Bio

@justthatkid: Because the first one is a Superman story and Superboy is a member of the Superman family. Plus both stories are written by the same writer and play off threads from Superboy. Also I said it was Jon Kent in the OP.

#16 Edited by Lvenger (19373 posts) - - Show Bio
#17 Posted by danhimself (22495 posts) - - Show Bio

after seeing Jon's costume I'm kind of hoping that he kills Superboy and feels so horrible about it that he joins the Teen Titans and that his personality is more like Pre52 Superboy's

#18 Posted by UltimateSMfan (1411 posts) - - Show Bio

@degraaf said:

I actually find this very interesting (Both of them) I like the classic costume look.

#19 Posted by Justthatkid (3538 posts) - - Show Bio
#20 Posted by Z3RO180 (6471 posts) - - Show Bio
#21 Posted by stephens2177 (1032 posts) - - Show Bio

Good,I want more kryptonians(atleast for a lil while),and the battle of the Superboys

#22 Edited by RDClip (1129 posts) - - Show Bio

meh, Scott Lobdell isn't a great writer (just an okay one) so I can't get excited for anything he does. And I'm opposed to the idea that Superman can have children with a normal human, it add a level of tragedy to his relationship with Lois. I'd rather see an alternate universe future child with Wonder Woman.

#23 Posted by Scott_Lobdell (39 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow! I'm kind of honored that I can be someone's "least favourite writer". I admit, it doesn't have the same glow as "Writer of the Year" (Thank you, WIZARD magazine, wherever you are!) -- but just to be able to excel at something is nice!

I will admit though that it is odd reading a lot of the abuse being hurled at this story before it has been written... even though what we're doing has never been done before in the 75 year history of the title, it is being dismissed as hackneyed, derivative, etc... which (as someone who is writing it and had to spend months battling for all the major turning points in the story) I can tell you that there really hasn't been a story like this, ever. And the ramifications of this story are going to be rippling through the Superverse for months to come.

Here's the thing: I loved the first half hour of MAN OF STEEL (I loved it all, but I'm talking about the first half hour now) because it offered us a Krypton we've never seen before! I can't be the only one who has ground tired of Kryptonians in tunics and hover cars in their Fortress of Solitude-looking cities. Snyder's Krypton felt so new and vital and quirky as heck with its blend of dragons and flying and laser cannons! I loved watching Jor El suit up and fight on behalf of his wife and newborn child (Go Russel Crowe) -- the man deserves way more than the short shrift he's gotten as the "Sky is falling" cameos over the years.

Imagine if someone came to Earth and filmed a documentary about Manhattan and took it back to their planet and people studied it for 75 years and said "Ah, so this is what Earth is like!". It wouldn't be very accurate.

I propose that everything we've seen about Krypton over the last 75 years represents about 3% of the glory and majesty and tragedy and sheer awesomeness of the planet that gave birth to everyone's favorite Superman. And I'm eager and excited to explore the other 97% of Krypton in the New 52!

Sure, there is the PooPoo Squad who wake every day, eager to poo on any story based on little or no information at all... but for the rest of us?

I can't wait!

#24 Posted by stephens2177 (1032 posts) - - Show Bio

Hi Scott,biggest SB fan ever here,I'm happy to say ill be buying both your annuals.

Is this going to be more a covert operation from Kal,Kara,and kon,or will the kryptonians see them,interact with them,and maybe,just maybe have kon a clone of a interspecies hybrid,have some kind of confrontation with them,I want to see how they would react to him,abomination and all.

Can't wait for jon to attack,the Titans are a added bonus.

#25 Posted by SmashBrawler (5652 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonny_anonymous: Dunno, when I first read the premise it kinda reminded me of Return to Krypton. Mind you, I didn't think "man, what a rip-off" as the story does sound different enough, I'm just saying I got Return to Krypton vibes.

#26 Posted by w0nd (3293 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@z3ro180: Apparently Jon Kent is more powerful than Superman and Superboy in turn has the potential to be more powerful than Jon Kent. Won't ever come to that though.

@w0nd said:

their version of prime?

Not sure. If he whines a lot, it will be.

careful, he will kill you to death

#27 Posted by stephens2177 (1032 posts) - - Show Bio

No,it was stated that he was as powerful as his father was,when he was a boy,which could just mean he didnt have a gradual buildup like kryptonians do,and also later Harvest mentioned kon seemed to dwarf Jon's power when he broke free,when he was going to be terminated as a flawed experiment by NOWHERE.so I'm guessing not as powerful as superman,probably the same as kon,but he lived for years with the power,so he is bound to be able to do things kon can't do now.

#29 Edited by lilben42 (2531 posts) - - Show Bio

What's up with all the red on the titans.

#30 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm so rooting for Jon Lane Kent to win...

#31 Posted by stephens2177 (1032 posts) - - Show Bio

Lobdell wrote the issue,he said Jon was as powerful as his father,then later he had Harvest say that kon seemed to be more powerful than Jon.now Lobdell is writing this annual,so he is in charge of how powerful Jon is,NOT a poster on a comic forum.

#32 Posted by Ciriel (410 posts) - - Show Bio

The fight should prove to be interesting

#33 Posted by stephens2177 (1032 posts) - - Show Bio

Jon should have a huge skill advantage over kon,seeing as though he has had the powers,and trained with them since he was a baby.

#35 Edited by Lvenger (19373 posts) - - Show Bio

@scott_lobdell: Excuse me, have I insulted your writing, your personality or you in general on here? No I haven't. I dislike your writing of my favourite character it's true but don't you dare identify me as part of this "Poo-Poo squad." My reasons for disliking your series are very sound and I honestly think that your style of writing is not to my taste at all. However, I would ask you not to be so rude and derogatory to people who have differing opinions to you. You're as bad as Dan Slott is to Spider-Man fans and it's disgraceful to see a writer act this way towards the fans. I love Superman and I don't like what you're doing to him. As a fan of the character, I'm entitled to speak out against what I don't like being done to him. It's not terrible don't worry nor is it the worst portrayal of Superman ever. But it's my least favourite portrayal of Superman in the New 52.

#36 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Ahaha! Poo Poo Squad is such a good name... You sure you don't want to be in that group? I'd love to be in a Poo Poo Squad! But then again, that weirdness might just be the Japanese in me talking... Hehehehe!

#37 Posted by Dernman (14975 posts) - - Show Bio

Jon Lane Kent bad idea in the making.

#38 Posted by stephens2177 (1032 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerwoman: you do this every time I comment about powers,and your always wrong.this time you use a pre flashpoint comic to make your "wrong" point.this is the new 52,and Scott Lobdell has every comic that I brought up,including the superboy/supergirl issue,the issue introducing Jon lane kent,and he is going to write the two annuals that will have superboy on krypton,and superboy fighting Jon.scott Lobdell is the deciding factor on how powerful superboy,not you,and your need to defend Kara to the death.

#39 Posted by stephens2177 (1032 posts) - - Show Bio
#40 Edited by Dernman (14975 posts) - - Show Bio
#41 Posted by stephens2177 (1032 posts) - - Show Bio

Some would say Martian Manhunter was a stupid idea also,it's only your opinion.

#42 Posted by Dernman (14975 posts) - - Show Bio

Except in this case Jon Lane Kent really is a stupid idea.

#43 Posted by SandMan_ (4528 posts) - - Show Bio

Hey, 90's Superboy is back.

#44 Edited by knightofthechronicle (687 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Scott's doing a good job with Superman. At least with Scott I don't get bored when I'm reading a Superman comic, I mean, George Perez and Dan Jurgens just couldn't do it. The only problem I've had so far with either of his runs (Superman and Teen Titans) is that he uses a lot of dialogue, it just seems that he can tone it down a little bit.

Looking forward to the annuals, hope that Krypton Returns turns out great and the Titans storyline turns out good too.

#45 Posted by stephens2177 (1032 posts) - - Show Bio

@sandman: well the suit is back atleast,with more black,which means evil of course

_: @dernman: nope

#46 Posted by tensor (4171 posts) - - Show Bio

They will get my money that is my take on this

#47 Posted by Dernman (14975 posts) - - Show Bio
#48 Posted by Tim_Drake4444 (1091 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow! I'm kind of honored that I can be someone's "least favourite writer". I admit, it doesn't have the same glow as "Writer of the Year" (Thank you, WIZARD magazine, wherever you are!) -- but just to be able to excel at something is nice!

I will admit though that it is odd reading a lot of the abuse being hurled at this story before it has been written... even though what we're doing has never been done before in the 75 year history of the title, it is being dismissed as hackneyed, derivative, etc... which (as someone who is writing it and had to spend months battling for all the major turning points in the story) I can tell you that there really hasn't been a story like this, ever. And the ramifications of this story are going to be rippling through the Superverse for months to come.

Here's the thing: I loved the first half hour of MAN OF STEEL (I loved it all, but I'm talking about the first half hour now) because it offered us a Krypton we've never seen before! I can't be the only one who has ground tired of Kryptonians in tunics and hover cars in their Fortress of Solitude-looking cities. Snyder's Krypton felt so new and vital and quirky as heck with its blend of dragons and flying and laser cannons! I loved watching Jor El suit up and fight on behalf of his wife and newborn child (Go Russel Crowe) -- the man deserves way more than the short shrift he's gotten as the "Sky is falling" cameos over the years.

Imagine if someone came to Earth and filmed a documentary about Manhattan and took it back to their planet and people studied it for 75 years and said "Ah, so this is what Earth is like!". It wouldn't be very accurate.

I propose that everything we've seen about Krypton over the last 75 years represents about 3% of the glory and majesty and tragedy and sheer awesomeness of the planet that gave birth to everyone's favorite Superman. And I'm eager and excited to explore the other 97% of Krypton in the New 52!

Sure, there is the PooPoo Squad who wake every day, eager to poo on any story based on little or no information at all... but for the rest of us?

I can't wait!

Mr. Lobdell, just wanted to say your Bart Allen is awsome.

#49 Posted by Eternal19 (2076 posts) - - Show Bio

meh, not really interested. H'el was a boring villain and I don't really care for all this mention of Krypton lately. I prefer my superman to be a more grounded hero.

#50 Posted by stephens2177 (1032 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman: nope

Im hoping krypton is still alive(for the next story arc only),and the kryptonians started to travel the cosmos again,and takes over every planet,even earth.only kal,kara,and kon can change things,before the kryptonians destroy the universe.