#1 Posted by Z3RO180 (6250 posts) - - Show Bio

Is the Superman in JL 3000 a descendent of Clark Kent ?

#2 Edited by Black_Arrow (2419 posts) - - Show Bio

@z3ro180 said:

Is the Superman in JL 3000 a descendent of Clark Kent ?

They don't even released the first issue how should we know

#3 Posted by Z3RO180 (6250 posts) - - Show Bio
#4 Posted by stephens2177 (983 posts) - - Show Bio

Watched a video of a guy who read the book already so

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The team are all clones made by Cadmus,with none of the originals memories and issues with their powers.

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#6 Posted by KnightRise (4785 posts) - - Show Bio

@stephens2177: You didn't actually spoiler block like this or

this

#7 Posted by stephens2177 (983 posts) - - Show Bio

@knightrise: hey what I'm using to post on here is so bad I can't even post pics on here.

But I did give spaces and say SPOILER

#8 Posted by drgnx (3547 posts) - - Show Bio
Justice League 3000
Classic Crime Syndicate

#9 Posted by deaditegonzo (3507 posts) - - Show Bio

Watched a video of a guy who read the book already so

SPOILERS

The team are all clones made by Cadmus,with none of the originals memories and issues with their powers.

That sounds really dumb. Batman doesnt even have powers, why even clone him? Without his memories and motivations, he's just a guy.

#10 Posted by PeppeyHare (4310 posts) - - Show Bio

@deaditegonzo: They did the same thing in Batman beyond. I forget the explanation/excuse they had for it

#11 Edited by KnightRise (4785 posts) - - Show Bio

@stephens2177 said:

@knightrise: hey what I'm using to post on here is so bad I can't even post pics on here.

But I did give spaces and say SPOILER

Bro I understand but that space barely helps. The spoiler is still in one's field of vision when they read SPOILER try something

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like this I guess

#12 Edited by deaditegonzo (3507 posts) - - Show Bio

@peppeyhare: I liked it better in the first season, when it was all coincidence. That clone shenanigans never set well with me.

#13 Edited by stephens2177 (983 posts) - - Show Bio

@knightrise: yeah I noticed that after I posted.

I'm just amazed they are doing a adult interpretation of the original Kon's origin,or a pseudo version anyway.

#14 Posted by Z3RO180 (6250 posts) - - Show Bio
#15 Edited by Wolfrazer (5951 posts) - - Show Bio

@drgnx: In that 1st picture, they all look stupid...except for GL. My opinion of course. :P

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#16 Posted by Thitiki (3167 posts) - - Show Bio

So it isn't Clark how old can Clark live to be in the New 52?

#17 Edited by comedy_brosUSA (738 posts) - - Show Bio

if the crime syndicate and JL 3000 exist on the same timeline or planet, then wouldn't DC have to do another crisis to change continuity?

#18 Posted by KEROGA (969 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman 3000s's "S" just looks like a big 8...to me

#19 Posted by SmashBrawler (5433 posts) - - Show Bio

@deaditegonzo said:

Batman doesnt even have powers, why even clone him? Without his memories and motivations, he's just a guy.

Originally they wanted perfect clones, memories and all, but they ended up getting flawed ones.

#20 Posted by Justthatkid (2367 posts) - - Show Bio

@stephens2177 said:

Watched a video of a guy who read the book already so

SPOILERS

The team are all clones made by Cadmus,with none of the originals memories and issues with their powers.

That sounds really dumb. Batman doesnt even have powers, why even clone him? Without his memories and motivations, he's just a guy.

Batman=Comic sales.

#21 Edited by drgnx (3547 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolfrazer said:

@drgnx: In that 1st picture, they all look stupid...except for GL. My opinion of course. :P

Flash needs a better costume. Batman looks like he is sitting on an invisible toilet, yet Superman is the one who looks constipated. Wonder Women looks like she is doing a ginyu force pose.

The point was, however, that this team line-up mimics that of the classic crime syndicate :)

#22 Posted by Z3RO180 (6250 posts) - - Show Bio
#23 Edited by Jonny_Anonymous (32211 posts) - - Show Bio
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#24 Posted by Z3RO180 (6250 posts) - - Show Bio
#25 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32211 posts) - - Show Bio

@z3ro180 said:

@jonny_anonymous: Ok well is the issue any good ?

I thought it was kinda boring my self also for it being the far flung future there wasn't much advanced tech shown.

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#26 Posted by Z3RO180 (6250 posts) - - Show Bio
#27 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32211 posts) - - Show Bio

@z3ro180 said:

@jonny_anonymous: Is superman a least called something other than Clark ?

Batman refers to him as Kent just to wind him beacuse Supes says "Clark Kent" was a fiction and only Superman was real

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#28 Edited by Z3RO180 (6250 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonny_anonymous: I'm k with Kent but havering Supes 300 being called Clark Kent just seems lazy. Yes he is a clone but besides that he is his own character and need his own name....and am S shield that doesn't look like an 8.

#29 Edited by Jonny_Anonymous (32211 posts) - - Show Bio

@z3ro180 said:

@jonny_anonymous: I'm k with Kent but havering Supes 300 being called Clark Kent just seems lazy. Yes he is a clone but besides that he is his own character and need his own name....and am S shield that doesn't look like an 8.

Yea but all of the characters think they are the orginals also you could call him Captain Douche as thats how he acts.

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#30 Posted by Z3RO180 (6250 posts) - - Show Bio
#31 Posted by LaserLambert (635 posts) - - Show Bio

@stephens2177 said:

Watched a video of a guy who read the book already so

SPOILERS

The team are all clones made by Cadmus,with none of the originals memories and issues with their powers.

That sounds really dumb. Batman doesnt even have powers, why even clone him? Without his memories and motivations, he's just a guy.

makes more sense than cloning Hal Jordan, like just because he's still Hal Jordan he'll get a green lantern ring?

#32 Edited by SOG7dc (6713 posts) - - Show Bio

This book was an abomination......(imo)

#33 Edited by SandMan_ (4528 posts) - - Show Bio

Dude is an ahole...but so is WW and Batman.

#34 Edited by Dernman (14612 posts) - - Show Bio

I was disappointed in the book. I saw nothing that would make me want to pick up a second issue.

#35 Posted by Black_Arrow (2419 posts) - - Show Bio

This issue was awesome, It was different than a Justice league in the future.

#36 Posted by Black_Arrow (2419 posts) - - Show Bio

@deaditegonzo said:

@stephens2177 said:

Watched a video of a guy who read the book already so

SPOILERS

The team are all clones made by Cadmus,with none of the originals memories and issues with their powers.

That sounds really dumb. Batman doesnt even have powers, why even clone him? Without his memories and motivations, he's just a guy.

makes more sense than cloning Hal Jordan, like just because he's still Hal Jordan he'll get a green lantern ring?

Because he has will power that is way.

#37 Posted by stephens2177 (983 posts) - - Show Bio

That's Wally

That's not Hal

Bruce,Tim,or Damian

Betcha that's Donna,all amazonined up

And superman is a exact adult copy of what superboy was like when he forts escaped from Cadmus back in 1993.the atitude(horn dog,and ego),skater hair,flawed kryptonian powers,no real memories,but still calling himself superman,even making a pint that he wasn't raised by the Kent's is from the first issue superboy was in during the reign of the supermen.

I wouldn't be half surprised if we don't find out he is flying because of his TK,and has super senses from his TTK.

#38 Posted by Omega-Man (760 posts) - - Show Bio

@stephens2177:

Um no JL 3000 #1 says all their names in the issue. It's:

Batman = Bruce Wayne
Superman = Clark Kent
Flash = Barry Allen
Wonder Woman = Diana
Green lantern = Hal Jordan

They are all clones of the original Justice league in present time. Though they are all flawed clones, their memories don't match up, their personalities are different and parts of their powers don't work. Superman doesn't have heat vision and Flash can't move too fast or he'd be burned alive from friction.

#39 Posted by stephens2177 (983 posts) - - Show Bio

@omega_man_: lol,and you believe that? It's obvious we are being set up for a switcheroo.the writers already told us they were gonna lie to us for awhile.not to mention these characters don't act anything like the originals at all.

I'm not saying my list is gonna be right,it's probably very very wrong,but I don't believe for a second that they are who they appear to be now.

Oh and if you look at them Barry looks like Wally,Hal acts like Kyle,they are clues.

My guess is still crime syndicate,but I wish it would be my above list

#40 Posted by JonSmith (3980 posts) - - Show Bio

@deaditegonzo said:

That sounds really dumb. Batman doesnt even have powers, why even clone him? Without his memories and motivations, he's just a guy.

makes more sense than cloning Hal Jordan, like just because he's still Hal Jordan he'll get a green lantern ring?

They have most of their memories. Not all of them, not even close, but they have the majority, though they're missing a few key points. Like Superman 3000 doesn't remember being raised by the Kents. Batman 3000 doesn't remember his parents dying. However, Hal remembers what it's like to wield a ring, and complains about the cloak being different.

And the idea behind the team was that they were five of the greatest heroes of their time: So why not bring them back? Hal wasn't cloned just because he was a Green Lantern, he was cloned because he was Hal Jordan, a hero of significant renown and a key member of the Justice League. And I'm not entirely sure he IS a Green Lantern, ring and all. He makes a statement about his cloak being different from the ring, as noted above, so perhaps that green cloak of his simulates the effect of the Ring and he's just using the name.

#41 Posted by SanoHibiki (1384 posts) - - Show Bio

Decided to give this title chance and read the first issue…

This chance was wasted. I am not going to buy this title.

@stephens2177:

And superman is a exact adult copy of what superboy was like when he forts escaped from Cadmus back in 1993.the atitude(horn dog,and ego),skater hair,flawed kryptonian powers,no real memories,but still calling himself superman,even making a pint that he wasn't raised by the Kent's is from the first issue superboy was in during the reign of the supermen.

I wouldn't be half surprised if we don't find out he is flying because of his TK,and has super senses from his TTK.

It could be just art, but I think that current New-52 Superman has different face structure than this Superman 3000. Maybe he actually hybrid clone (probably Super’s DNA was spliced with Guy Gardner’s one, if we judging from behavior).

#42 Posted by PapiNacho (2341 posts) - - Show Bio

I really liked this book. The action was great and the character's where great, just needs a little more world building.

#43 Edited by stephens2177 (983 posts) - - Show Bio

1-flawed superman clone

2-clone kon clone

3-Ultraman clone

4-new character either created or added with superman like powers

Those are my choices for the JL3000 superman

That flash looks like Wally,that is one hell of a huge clue.