Posted by BeautifulTemptress (234 posts) 1 year, 19 days ago

Poll: How do you think, is it worth DC change the author of "the New 52. Superman Scott Lobdell? (13 votes)

Yes. 62%
No. 38%

Judging by the poll conducted by the website ComiXology, comic books about Superman, the author of which is Scott Lobdell, not the most popular.

Please note, which option has a 15%ahead of comic books about superman and the backstory of the game.

#1 Edited by drgnx (3547 posts) - - Show Bio

If we went by polls in the Storm Forum, Ororo would be getting her own movie franchise, Live action TV show, animated TV show, and solo comic series ... any day now ....

Why don't you check the actual sales figures....

Here is a sample for MAY for NA

rankBook TitleIssuePricePublisherEst. Sales
3Justice Legue20$3.99DC

97,676

34Action Comics19$3.99DC

48,324

37Superman19$2.99DC

45,458

43Earth 212$2.99DC

43,983

70Adventures of Superman1$3.99DC

30,992

89Injustice Gods Among Us5$3.99DC

25,215

145Smallville Season 1112$3.99DC

15,442

Go figure, the book that had the highest ratings there has the lowest sales in May by a margin for all the Superman solos ... A quick scan shows this pattern has held for several months!

Earth 2 does not even have a Superman at the moment ...

#2 Edited by BeautifulTemptress (234 posts) - - Show Bio

@drgnx: Well, I don't know. I read on different sites comments on account of comic books about Superman of the New 52" and they are mostly negative.

#3 Posted by drgnx (3547 posts) - - Show Bio

@drgnx: Well, I don't know. I read on different sites comments on account of comic books about Superman of the New 52" and they are mostly negative.

What? People complaining on the forums about stuff?

:)

Hence why shouldn't take ratios on forums with anything other than a grain of salt... You'd have the man ostracized because of some complains on a forum while he title is selling in the top 40 because people complain in the forums?

Imagine you're in a room with DC executives, someone has these sales figures in front of you showing his title is regularly in the top 40 out 400+ comics from major publishers, are your really going to pull up people complaining on forums as a rebuttal?

#4 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32216 posts) - - Show Bio

@drgnx said:

@beautifultemptress said:

@drgnx: Well, I don't know. I read on different sites comments on account of comic books about Superman of the New 52" and they are mostly negative.

What? People complaining on the forums about stuff?

:)

Hence why shouldn't take ratios on forums with anything other than a grain of salt... You'd have the man ostracized because of some complains on a forum while he title is selling in the top 40 because people complain in the forums?

Imagine you're in a room with DC executives, someone has these sales figures in front of you showing his title is regularly in the top 40 out 400+ comics from major publishers, are your really going to pull up people complaining on forums as a rebuttal?

Lobdel's Superman is pretty crap though

#5 Posted by BeautifulTemptress (234 posts) - - Show Bio

@drgnx: In social networks.And on the forums too.

#6 Posted by drgnx (3547 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonny_anonymous: I don't expect everyone to like it. No matter what he does there will be people who don't like it. Even if you replace him, there will be people who don't like the new stuff even if 'you' do. I find people will spend more time complaining about things online, or arguing, than praising things they like (the longest and most infamous threads tend to be the most controversial). But as long as the numbers are there in sales, that's what he will be held to and not forum opinions.

#7 Posted by RDClip (1112 posts) - - Show Bio

Scott Lobdell was certainly not the writer Superman needed for the reboot. Now, I'm not saying he's a bad writer. What I'm saying is he is simply an adequate writer. He doesn't (at least in his new52 work) do anything really shocking or out-of-the-box and his stories have been pretty standard fare. Say what you will about Grant Morrison, but at least he gave us an unconventional and interesting book in Action comics. Superman needed someone who could write a more down-to-earth style story and be interesting and unpredictable. I hope that is how Snyder's Superman Unchained will be.

But, yeah I think Lobdell should be replaced with another writer. Either someone established who can make interesting and fun Superman stories like Gail Simone or Geoff Johns or a new passionate writer who will bring new ideas to Superman.

#8 Edited by drgnx (3547 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonny_anonymous: @beautifultemptress:

My main concern is not that you want to discuss your dislike of his work or even trends you notice on the forums where people might not like he work (discussed in various forums/areas).

The real issue comes when you start posting data that grossly misrepresents the state of things (for instance, someone looking at that poll might think his book is doing worse than Smallville season 11), but more importantly, using this data to discuss whether or not a man should lose his job (and I realize I'm being a stickler).

Anyways, not trying to rain on your parade, the reason I posted the figures was just to give you perspective.

#9 Posted by ThanosIsMad (2191 posts) - - Show Bio

Just let Brian Q Miller write both Superman and Smallville.

#10 Edited by sinestro_GL (3030 posts) - - Show Bio

Lobdell's title isn't bad, it's solid, but it's not fantastic.

For DC's flagship character, this isn't good enough.

#11 Edited by Hawkguy (571 posts) - - Show Bio

Lobdell pushes out books on time and people buy it because... Well... Its Superman. That's all he needs to keep his writing going.

Personally, I'm not the biggest fan. His stories are getting better but he shouldn't be on both Superman and Action Comics

#12 Posted by EnigmaLantern (707 posts) - - Show Bio

I still believe that Lobdell has had a poor run on Superman, especially as some other people have stated, it being DC's flagship character. I think Lobdell ruined the Superboy book, which in figures was and still is doing poorly, although Justin Jordan has the potential to change that, and the fact he's writing both Superman and Action Comics is astonishing, really enjoying the diverse takes on Superman... I'm so happy that Snyder and Lee brought out Superman Unchained, might be Superman's only current saving grace. But this is just my take on things.