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#1 Posted by LimpoyzLoan (1646 posts) - - Show Bio

It's been awhile since I've read some comics that detail how hard Superman can hit (I'm talking about Pre-52 btw)

Last I read, he hits this hard:

Are there any new feats I should know about?

#2 Edited by SliverBat (60 posts) - - Show Bio

Fueled by the sun, insanely hard.

I don't really remember any measurements..

#3 Edited by Lvenger (21066 posts) - - Show Bio

@limpoyzloan: That capable of shattering a planet thing doesn't have much backing behind it. Sure he could shatter one in several punches but he doesn't have the on panel verification. But Pre New 52 some of Superman's best striking feats include Black Racer redirecting Superman's punch back at him which cracks a large part of the moon

Creating sonic booms with his punches and hitting Captain Marvel from Metropolis to Hawaii. This is while he was possessed by Eclipso who basically went all out whilst possessing Superman

And knocking Wonder Woman from the Sun to the Earth whilst mind controlled by Maxwell Lord.

There are more but these are some of his best ones. Hope that helps!

#4 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (26109 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Don't forget Superman punching Lobo in to Earths orbit:

#5 Posted by THEOCITYLEGEND (1289 posts) - - Show Bio

Almost as hard as Catwoman

#6 Posted by LimpoyzLoan (1646 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: So by best, Superman could potentially make a huge crack in a planet, but not completely destroy it with a single punch?

#7 Posted by mtrakos (563 posts) - - Show Bio

as hard as supes can punch, he still cant beat Batman.

#8 Posted by PowerWoman (3575 posts) - - Show Bio

@limpoyzloan: In the logic,he can,but superman feats (read lvenger scans)is more Impressive than other being like Gladiator or drax,both destroy some unknow planet wiht punch,but we dont know these planet size and density

#9 Edited by Lvenger (21066 posts) - - Show Bio

@limpoyzloan: Based on the feats we have from Pre Flashpoint Superman, yes I'd say that was the case.

@dccomicsrule2011: He's punched more than just Lobo into Earth's orbit

#10 Posted by PowerWoman (3575 posts) - - Show Bio
#11 Posted by LimpoyzLoan (1646 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Doesn't he destroy the boundaries of time and space with his punches?

#12 Posted by Lvenger (21066 posts) - - Show Bio

@limpoyzloan: That was just in his battle with Earth 2 Superman. Their meeting caused ripples in the timeline due to the alternate counterpart connection those two possessed. It had nothing to do with the force of the punches that were thrown.

#13 Posted by Herokiller12344 (999 posts) - - Show Bio

Like ultra, super hard

#14 Posted by LimpoyzLoan (1646 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Ah, thank you for clearing that up.

#15 Edited by Lvenger (21066 posts) - - Show Bio
#16 Posted by toptom (1241 posts) - - Show Bio

superman can one shot other kryptonians,or shatter small planets with some punches even when he is on the defensive or crack a moon with one fist.......so lets say he can (could) hit pretty hard.

#17 Posted by deaditegonzo (3690 posts) - - Show Bio

With relativity, which is a thing in DC, he could easily destroy a planet and more. However, his best strikes on panel are moon splitters, not planet crushers. The reason for this is obvious of course, Superman would never destroy a planet.

However, in the Superman tie-in for Infinite Crisis, Kal-El and Kal-L striking eachother shatters all reality. Many people point out that reality was already damaged, but that to me is a pretty silly distinction to make, lol.

In the New 52, the force of his blows send shockwaves through the planet and into the atmosphere (which H'El just shrugs off).

#18 Edited by PowerWoman (3575 posts) - - Show Bio
#19 Edited by cyberninja (10413 posts) - - Show Bio

Pretty super hard.

#20 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

Reeve Superman was said to be 225 lbs.

F = MA

Compute the value of force depending on his speed... :D

#21 Posted by PowerWoman (3575 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssejllenrad: True,need speed and Durability,give me super-speed and Invulnerability i can destroy earth too,if i can light of speed or faster than light

#22 Posted by consolemaster001 (6035 posts) - - Show Bio

#23 Edited by Twentyfive (2845 posts) - - Show Bio

.......Very

#24 Posted by LimpoyzLoan (1646 posts) - - Show Bio

@deaditegonzo: It wasn't so much that reality was damaged, it was that the encounter had caused ripples in the timeline because they were alternate counterparts and were not meant to meet.

#25 Posted by PowerWoman (3575 posts) - - Show Bio
#26 Edited by dum529001 (1651 posts) - - Show Bio

Faster than a speeding bullet, More powerful han locomotive, Able to leap building in a single bound!!

Faster than speeding rocket, More powerful than an atomic bomb, able to leap between worlds in a single bound!!

#27 Posted by deaditegonzo (3690 posts) - - Show Bio

@limpoyzloan: This is from Infinity Crisis itself which is the only one I have on my PC, the tie-in makes it more clear, but still the page explicitly states each blow causes damage to reality. The Superman tie-in shows the effects of each blow, but I dont have it on my PC.

These two shatter reality, and that's the truth of it.

(If anyone has scans from the Superman tie-in, and wants to post, it is even more blatant in that.)

#28 Posted by PowerWoman (3575 posts) - - Show Bio

@deaditegonzo:

Both try to win the fight so that their World could live which is the reason they say this throughout the fight. Its a figure of speech. The world isnt really dead or destroyed, they are fighting to "save their world". they were shattering time and space. time and space was already out of whack, because of what Luthor had been doing BEFORE they fought, ie screwing with the universe and turning on the machine. The appearance of Earth 2 in and of itself suggests instability, imo. they were shattering time and space with each punch. It's just that time and space's bonds were weakened before they fought. It's still a very impressive feat though

#29 Posted by deaditegonzo (3690 posts) - - Show Bio

@deaditegonzo:

Both try to win the fight so that their World could live which is the reason they say this throughout the fight. Its a figure of speech. The world isnt really dead or destroyed, they are fighting to "save their world". they were shattering time and space. time and space was already out of whack, because of what Luthor had been doing BEFORE they fought, ie screwing with the universe and turning on the machine. The appearance of Earth 2 in and of itself suggests instability, imo. they were shattering time and space with each punch. It's just that time and space's bonds were weakened before they fought. It's still a very impressive feat though

Have you read the Superman tie-in? Both the art and the narration explicitly show their punches destroying reality. Sure, reality is already damaged, I said as much in my first post, but reality is everything. Saying reality was already damaged as an excuse is tantamount to saying "Infinity was already damaged." It is a silly line in the sand with no real meaning.

#30 Posted by PowerWoman (3575 posts) - - Show Bio

@deaditegonzo: Read my point,i say this still very impressive feats,yes, reality is already damaged.

#31 Posted by Bruxae (14008 posts) - - Show Bio

I dont think the planet shattering as to do with strength but rather the length of his arm, it just makes sense that even if you punch with endless strength half a metre into the earth it wont suddenly explode unless theres one hell of a pressure wave.

He could probably smash something as durable as the earth but smaller though.

#32 Posted by PowerWoman (3575 posts) - - Show Bio

@bruxae: just need enough speed,even not need strength you can destroy earth

#33 Posted by LimpoyzLoan (1646 posts) - - Show Bio

@deaditegonzo: It never stated that Superman could punch reality apart. That statement never came up, and is purely speculative. And yes, reality was already damaged, because it's comic book logic. Reality in no way can be damaged or even destroyed. Superman was essentially, fighting himself. Causing damage to reality because he was fighting himself, just an alternate version. They are both the same entity, but raised under different circumstances, thus, the time warp.

#34 Edited by deaditegonzo (3690 posts) - - Show Bio

@limpoyzloan:

No, it is specifically shown in the tie-in, and even mentioned on the page. I see what you're trying to do, but youre not making a good point. This is actually a really solid feat because two separate books basically support eachother and show it both in the narration and the imagery.

With DBZ, all you ever get is somebody shouting something totally unsubstantiated. Almost every energy attack starts with some character saying, "He's going to destroy a planet." Its hyperbole.

#35 Edited by LimpoyzLoan (1646 posts) - - Show Bio

@deaditegonzo: When did I ever bring up DBZ? Whatever...

Anyway, like I said, it never says he could punch reality apart with one punch or anything of the sort. Reality was already damaged in the first place (Again Comic Book logic) For all we know, Flash could have done it in with one punch. This makes the feat unquantifiable, and considering he never does it again, even in his most heated battles, it's obvious he can't do it all around. Given he has enough time, he could potentially destroy it (Although that's highly unlikely) Then again, Wally could potentially do it.

I believe Superman can destroy a medium sized planet with one punch, but I'm fairly certain he can't destroy reality, only if it was as damaged as it was in the Crisis. Still pretty damn cool though.

#36 Posted by SC (13299 posts) - - Show Bio

Hard enough to punch Nutella into Peanut Butter. Hard enough to burst a bubble. Hard enough to punch Donald Trump's face and make his hair flip into something resembling a normal hairstyle. Hard enough to puncture a viagra sized hole into Chuck Norris's chest. Hard enough to change a T into a Z.

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#37 Posted by PowerWoman (3575 posts) - - Show Bio

@limpoyzloan: That my point,pre-52 superman cant one shotted a reality,unless this is SA superman

#38 Posted by LimpoyzLoan (1646 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerwoman: I agree. There's a reason why I just don't care for SA Superman. He's just OP beyond belief.

#39 Posted by PowerWoman (3575 posts) - - Show Bio

@limpoyzloan: yep,who take big bang,faster than infinity,lift our entire universe weight

just too crazy

#40 Posted by deaditegonzo (3690 posts) - - Show Bio

@deaditegonzo: When did I ever bring up DBZ? Whatever...

Anyway, like I said, it never says he could punch reality apart with one punch or anything of the sort. Reality was already damaged in the first place (Again Comic Book logic) For all we know, Flash could have done it in with one punch. This makes the feat unquantifiable, and considering he never does it again, even in his most heated battles, it's obvious he can't do it all around. Given he has enough time, he could potentially destroy it (Although that's highly unlikely) Then again, Wally could potentially do it.

I believe Superman can destroy a medium sized planet with one punch, but I'm fairly certain he can't destroy reality, only if it was as damaged as it was in the Crisis. Still pretty damn cool though.

How coy. Pfft, anybody who has seen our other discussion knows what you were getting at, but the two situations are completely incomparable, as one is an actual on-panel feat, the other is just hyperbole shouted by a character about himself.

Go back to my first post, where I explicitly say reality was already damaged. Its up there. And yes, I still think thats a silly point, its like saying "infinity" was already damaged, or "eternity".

#41 Posted by LimpoyzLoan (1646 posts) - - Show Bio

@deaditegonzo: And you're saying I brought it up in this thread based on what...? The hyperbole argument is really weak if you just run the same shtick over and over again. And you act as if I'm the DBZ "Fanboy" and do nothing but make threads about DBZ and just compare it to comic books. A stereotypical response. Just because I like to debate DBZ, doesn't mean I value it as the most powerful universe in fiction. Quit bringing up things that were never stated, or even had the need to be brought up in the first place.

Again, comic book logic. Reality, in real life, can in no way be damaged or destroyed. But this is a FICTIONAL universe. It never states that Superman directly punched it and reality shattered. That is only a ridiculous assumption made by Superman fanboys on youtube. I like Superman too, don't think I don't. But he has never shown this level of power. I'm being a tad fanboyish just for thinking he can destroy a planet with a single strike, even though there is no backing on that statement.

#42 Edited by Deranged Midget (17841 posts) - - Show Bio

In reference to New 52, his punches were strong enough to shake the entirety of the Earth from the very core to the farthest reaches of our atmosphere, and that was from the hits landed off of H'el.

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#43 Posted by PowerWoman (3575 posts) - - Show Bio
#44 Posted by Deranged Midget (17841 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerwoman: Don't really see how that correlates to the power of Superman's punches. H'el is undoubtedly more powerful than Kal is but that's not the subject at hand here.

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#45 Posted by PowerWoman (3575 posts) - - Show Bio

@deranged_midget: yep,superman's punches just make h'el tickle,so that why i say most impressive is h'el just yawning

#46 Posted by Deranged Midget (17841 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerwoman: That's debatable. Disregarding the fact that Kal speed-blitzed H'el from behind, he made him bleed and seemingly had the advantage until Kara stepped in and stayed Kal's hand. It was hard to determine what the power difference was at the point the arc, especially due to the horribly inconsistant writing.

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#47 Posted by LimpoyzLoan (1646 posts) - - Show Bio

@deranged_midget: So do you think Superman could destroy the planet with one strike? New 52 or Before?

#48 Posted by deaditegonzo (3690 posts) - - Show Bio

@limpoyzloan: Im writing this off as you not having read Infinite Crisis and its tie-ins.

Unless your whole point is that, while yes, he objectively performed the feat, you doubt the overall extent of this feat as evidence as punching force. Which, if you hadnt been in an argumentative mood from the other thread, you'd see that the highest striking feats I gave Superman are moon moonsplitters:

(Quoted from MY FIRST COMMENT ON THIS THREAD): "However, his best strikes on panel are moon splitters, not planet crushers. The reason for this is obvious of course, Superman would never destroy a planet."

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#49 Edited by Deranged Midget (17841 posts) - - Show Bio

@limpoyzloan: I don't know. Pre-52 has a lot more feats to go off of but I think it's safe to say at this point that New 52 is proving to be the more powerful of the incarnations. As for if either could shatter a planet with a single punch, it depends on the size I guess.

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#50 Posted by PowerWoman (3575 posts) - - Show Bio