• 54 results
  • 1
  • 2
#1 Posted by krspaceT (1458 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman grew up in Kansas, a midwestern state. A very conservative state.

I ask mainly as he is dating Wonder Woman, who comes from a society that is long all but said to be made up of Lesbians who distrust men....recently retconned into 'I want kids' man killing lesbians (See WW 7). Kansas has a constitutional amendment against gay marriage.

I have no idea how he was raised by the Kents when it comes to politics. And since people are looking for ways to destroy the pairings like Hermoine-Harry fans after Harry-Ginny, or Zutaras after Kataangs.....might as well bring up a valid argument

#2 Edited by Supes1903 (137 posts) - - Show Bio

In Action Comics #900 Superman renounces his US citizenship because he believes the US has fallen away from the beliefs he previously held dear.

#3 Posted by Video_Martian (5631 posts) - - Show Bio

@Supes1903 said:

In Action Comics #900 Superman denounces his US citizenship because he believes the US has fallen away from the beliefs he previously held dear.

Oh yeah, I remember when that issue first came out, the story was even on the news headlines. Seemed to be a controversial move at the time.

#4 Posted by krspaceT (1458 posts) - - Show Bio

@Supes1903: Not bad, its not what I was looking for, as it was more contemporary stuff, but its quite a good piece.

#5 Posted by Kal'smahboi (3327 posts) - - Show Bio

@Supes1903: @mr.obvious: He renounced his citizenship because he felt that he shouldn't have national ties. He almost started an international incident because he supported the Iranian protests of their government, and thought that he should be able to help Iranians without starting a war. Superman is for everybody, not just Americans. It had nothing to do with political views.

#6 Posted by Supes1903 (137 posts) - - Show Bio

Exactly, you put into words what I was really trying to convey and is summed up by the last part of your statement. "Superman is for everybody, not just Americans."

#7 Posted by krspaceT (1458 posts) - - Show Bio

@Supes1903: Captain America could learn something from here....AVX?

#8 Posted by Skunkstein (582 posts) - - Show Bio

He doenst have any official political views, but i would guess that he was a social liberal.

#9 Posted by Supes1903 (137 posts) - - Show Bio

Haha yeah. I think Cap could learn a lot from Superman, especially Ultimate Cap.

#10 Posted by krspaceT (1458 posts) - - Show Bio

@Skunkstein: Erm....what exactly is that. I am unfamiliar with the term

#11 Posted by Crash_Recovery (850 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman doesn't really need any political views.

We engage in politics because it takes many supporting an idea to get political traction.

Superman can pretty much do whatever he wants, and does.

#12 Posted by Skunkstein (582 posts) - - Show Bio

@krspaceT:

Its a form of politics or society that in principle is based of liberal market economy principles, but at the same time consider the key task for the government to provide social security for the individual through for example: public healthcare and free education etc.

This is where it varies from traditional liberalism where you are very much your own provider, you can say that in a traditional liberal society ''youre the architect of your own fortune''. In a social liberal state you support the liberal market, yet the state should still provide social security as you see it in socialist(most european) countries.

#13 Posted by krspaceT (1458 posts) - - Show Bio

@Skunkstein: Neet....though does it have any social generalities. Part of the reason I made this thread was due to reflecting how Superman and Wonder Woman are together now, and how Superman may feel on a, at least pre New 52, all but directly said lesbian society.

You have to admit its a way to get rid of the pairing if you hate it, as many do

#14 Posted by Skunkstein (582 posts) - - Show Bio

@krspaceT said:

@Skunkstein: Neet....though does it have any social generalities. Part of the reason I made this thread was due to reflecting how Superman and Wonder Woman are together now, and how Superman may feel on a, at least pre New 52, all but directly said lesbian society.

You have to admit its a way to get rid of the pairing if you hate it, as many do

Usually Social liberals have left winged social values and closer to borderline right winged economical values and support stuff like gay marriage, global market competetition, an egalitarian society in which people do not face discrimination on the basis of their race, sexual orintation, gender etc. and have overall very few generalities.

#15 Posted by krspaceT (1458 posts) - - Show Bio

@Skunkstein: Thanks for answering

#16 Posted by Skunkstein (582 posts) - - Show Bio

@krspaceT:Np man!

#17 Posted by Kal'smahboi (3327 posts) - - Show Bio

@Supes1903: It's a truth that many people tend to forget.

#18 Posted by ssejllenrad (12802 posts) - - Show Bio

Definitely conservative...

#19 Posted by Eternal19 (2074 posts) - - Show Bio

pre-new 52 he seemed pretty conservative. In the New 52 he seems more liberal to me due to Action Comics

#20 Posted by Wboy (440 posts) - - Show Bio

Or maybe her people aren't lesbians? -_-

#21 Posted by krspaceT (1458 posts) - - Show Bio

@Wboy: You could probably argue that in the New 52....but pre New 52 you did have her mother and one of her guards, with both Gail and Dido wanting to have them married.

For an example

#22 Posted by Glitch_Spawn (17123 posts) - - Show Bio

@Supes1903 said:

In Action Comics #900 Superman renounces his US citizenship because he believes the US has fallen away from the beliefs he previously held dear.

Wow

#23 Edited by Wboy (440 posts) - - Show Bio

@krspaceT said:

@Wboy: You could probably argue that in the New 52....but pre New 52 you did have her mother and one of her guards, with both Gail and Dido wanting to have them married.

For an example

Guessing you got that from the threadin the WW section. I am gonna say this which I will also use from the thread:

@SCORPIO_CASSADINE said:

I stand corrected. Gail Simone was wrong in that like she was with so many other things about Wonder Woman. It's been 70 years, and for most of those she was in love with Steve Trevor. She's been paired with several other men though and no women. Io was clearly in love with her, but it went unrequited. Forcing her to be bisexual would be a terrible cliché designed to appease closed minded people that think that because she comes from an island of women she MUST be gay, and the thought of that is asinine to me. The new 52 Wonder Woman is enough like Xena already.

#24 Edited by krspaceT (1458 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

#25 Posted by .Longshot. (5264 posts) - - Show Bio

The Kents took in an alien orphan who was juggling their furniture when he was a kid. I don't think they'd have a problem teaching tolerance.

#26 Posted by PowerWoman (3257 posts) - - Show Bio

True,that why i like superman,USA not good anymore,We not need wars,we need peace

#27 Posted by krspaceT (1458 posts) - - Show Bio

In Marvel, parent's kick out their flesh and blood with super powers

In DC, parents find children in rockets who can juggle mountains, and raise him as their own

You know, I just thought of a neat elseworld: a story where another set of parents finds young Clark.....who have a little boy named Bruce.....

#28 Edited by UltimateSMfan (1172 posts) - - Show Bio

@kal_smahboi said:

@Supes1903: @mr.obvious: He renounced his citizenship because he felt that he shouldn't have national ties. He almost started an international incident because he supported the Iranian protests of their government, and thought that he should be able to help Iranians without starting a war. Superman is for everybody, not just Americans. It had nothing to do with political views.

i really liked that story too! Sadly Justice League #19 erased all that :( and made WW American too...pfft!

#29 Posted by Delphic (1353 posts) - - Show Bio

It depends who's writing him.

#30 Posted by KnightRise (4762 posts) - - Show Bio

pre-new 52 he seemed pretty conservative. In the New 52 he seems more liberal to me due to Action Comics

How so?

#31 Posted by Kal'smahboi (3327 posts) - - Show Bio

@kal_smahboi said:

@Supes1903: @mr.obvious: He renounced his citizenship because he felt that he shouldn't have national ties. He almost started an international incident because he supported the Iranian protests of their government, and thought that he should be able to help Iranians without starting a war. Superman is for everybody, not just Americans. It had nothing to do with political views.

i really liked that story too! Sadly Justice League #19 erased all that :( and made WW American too...pfft!

What happened? I'm not reading JL right now. That's kind of upsetting haha.

#32 Edited by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

My guess is Superman believes people from other planets have the right to become American citizens. My guess is Superman believes vigilantes have the right to beat up each other. My guess is Superman believes everyone has the right to own property in space. My guess is Superman believes that everyone has the right to report on whatever news. My guess is Superman believes in the right to visit whatever country in secret. My guess is Superman believes in the right of everyone to own pets from other planets.

#33 Posted by .Longshot. (5264 posts) - - Show Bio

@krspacet: They actually did that, but he was their kid instead of Bruce.

#34 Edited by consolemaster001 (4501 posts) - - Show Bio

He is a communist

#35 Posted by PowerWoman (3257 posts) - - Show Bio
#36 Edited by consolemaster001 (4501 posts) - - Show Bio
#37 Edited by PowerWoman (3257 posts) - - Show Bio
#38 Posted by consolemaster001 (4501 posts) - - Show Bio
#39 Posted by PowerWoman (3257 posts) - - Show Bio

@consolemaster001: In the past, the United States is the country of justice, but not anymore

#40 Posted by consolemaster001 (4501 posts) - - Show Bio

@consolemaster001: In the past, the United States is the country of justice, but not anymore

Truth.

But please next time talk about things like this in the OT section

#41 Posted by PowerWoman (3257 posts) - - Show Bio
#42 Edited by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

My guess is Superman believes in the right to believe in gods from other planets. My guess is Superman believes people from other planets should be allowed to have sex with white people. My guess is Superman's x-ray vision does not believe in the right of privacy.

#43 Posted by Eternal19 (2074 posts) - - Show Bio

@eternal19 said:

pre-new 52 he seemed pretty conservative. In the New 52 he seems more liberal to me due to Action Comics

How so?

Pre-new 52 he was championing truth, justice, and the american way which if you look at it can sound pretty conservative to some. And at the beginning of the new 52 he was fighting corrupt business dealers, writing articles about social injustice in metropolis, and fighting for the common man. Which can sound very liberal to some

#44 Posted by KnightRise (4762 posts) - - Show Bio

@eternal19: The idea vaguely sounds conservative, but I don't think its been portrayed that way in recent years, unless you have evidence otherwise?

#45 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

The New 52 Clark Kent refuses to work for the Daily Planet and other corporations so he seems quite radical.

#46 Posted by PowerWoman (3257 posts) - - Show Bio
#47 Edited by SOG7dc (6713 posts) - - Show Bio

The Kents took in an alien orphan who was juggling their furniture when he was a kid. I don't think they'd have a problem teaching tolerance.

brilliant. itd be like adopting a black baby and raising him to be a white supremacist

#48 Posted by Press Oblivion (1643 posts) - - Show Bio

The New 52 Clark Kent refuses to work for the Daily Planet and other corporations so he seems quite radical.

Seems that way to me too.

#49 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

The human parents of Clark seem tolerant so Clark is probably quite tolerant of other races and maybe even quite tolerant of illegal immigrants or asylum seekers.

#50 Edited by The_Greatest_Green_Lantern (68 posts) - - Show Bio

Grant Morrison is writing a new Action Comics #1, and he's going back to the roots of Superman. Based on the cover image to the left, it looks like he's finally using an older pitch for the character he's wanted to use for a while: "I wanted to do a story of Superman's first year in Metropolis when he wasn't so powerful and he was a bit more of a liberal activist."

http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2011/06/10/today-in-nerd-superman-goes-liberal-and-dc-comics-is-going-to-try-to-sell-comics-to-a-broader-audience

@colonyofcells: "The human parents of Clark seem tolerant so Clark is probably quite tolerant of other races and maybe even quite tolerant of illegal immigrants or asylum seekers."

That was dealt with on Smallville, when migranst workers came to work in Kansas. Clark is fine with illegal aliens, since he is once himself.