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#1 Posted by SmashBrawler (5431 posts) - - Show Bio

This is from the latest issue of Empire Magazine.

I guess that's definitive proof that Superman isn't the only kryptonian with powers or something like that.

#2 Posted by Black_Claw (2872 posts) - - Show Bio

And why would any comic book reader think that Superman is the only kryptonian with powers under a yellow sun?

Zod having powers is a no brainer.

#3 Posted by SmashBrawler (5431 posts) - - Show Bio

@black_claw said:

And why would any comic book reader think that Superman is the only kryptonian with powers under a yellow sun?

Zod having powers is a no brainer.

Yeah, but there was some rumor that Superman would be born with powers on Krypton and Zod and the rest would be wearing armors because they don't have powers and blah, blah, blah.

#4 Posted by w0nd (2732 posts) - - Show Bio

It's because there was a quote going around saying even on krypton Clark was considered special, even though he was an infant child when they sent him away in the trailer it seems. People took those small words and blew it up into something else.

#5 Edited by AweSam (7360 posts) - - Show Bio

Wasn't he fighting Zod in the trailer?

#6 Posted by cloudzackvincent (1026 posts) - - Show Bio

ofcourse zod has powers in the movie..... did anyone in the vine think he wouldn't??

#7 Posted by BiteMe-Fanboy (7497 posts) - - Show Bio

Ah, I like that pic.

#8 Edited by deaditegonzo (3507 posts) - - Show Bio

@w0nd said:

It's because there was a quote going around saying even on krypton Clark was considered special, even though he was an infant child when they sent him away in the trailer it seems. People took those small words and blew it up into something else.

Yeah, I had heard that too, and I had thought the same thing, they really blew that little blurb out of proportion.

Turns out he is special:

"Goyer stated that Superman, or Kal-El as he is born on Kryton, is born illegally in "Man of Steel." "People were bred to be warriors or scientists or what-have-you, and there's a whole element in the movie about nature versus nurture," said Goyer. "Kal-El is unique because he's a natural conception, free from genetic manipulation to choose his own course in life, which also makes his existence highly illegal."

#9 Posted by Nightwing4 (360 posts) - - Show Bio

@deaditegonzo: I think thats a pretty cool addition to the Superman mythos. He's always been a 'diamond in the rough' kind of character, defending humanity's right to make choices for themselves, so it seems fitting.

This will be a very good movie.

#10 Posted by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

@deaditegonzo: I think thats a pretty cool addition to the Superman mythos. He's always been a 'diamond in the rough' kind of character, defending humanity's right to make choices for themselves, so it seems fitting.

This will be a very good movie.

You know, for once, I wanna see him become a truly benevolent dictator, but because of western civilization's indoctrination into believing that ANY kind of dictatorship is inherently bad, regardless of methods and that the rights of the individual outweigh the writes of the group, it always ends up collapsing in upon itself in the most easy predictable and contrived of fashions (ironically enough, how democracy was so cow-toed in the Star Wars Universe...again...and again...and again...and again in the endless cycle that Universe seems to go in the endless struggle of chaos and order).

Either way, this movie will "probably" be good (especially with Kryptonians duking it out) and, at the very least, leave people with something that, after fade to blackbolt pointed it out, a lot of marvel movies nowadays don't really try to leave you with, so points for distinguished.

#11 Posted by Saren (25229 posts) - - Show Bio

The entire point of Zod is that he's evil warlord Superman.

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#12 Edited by Lvenger (17887 posts) - - Show Bio

Why was there any doubt that Zod wouldn't have Kryptonian powers?

#13 Edited by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

Why was there any doubt that Zod wouldn't have Kryptonian powers?

Because other people had doubts.

#14 Posted by UltimateSMfan (1351 posts) - - Show Bio

the fact that he was able to take supes's punches in the new trailer proves he has power otherwise he'd just explode.

#15 Posted by Lvenger (17887 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

Why was there any doubt that Zod wouldn't have Kryptonian powers?

Because other people had doubts.

But what were those doubts based on?

#17 Posted by toptom (1155 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@hewhosees said:

@lvenger said:

Why was there any doubt that Zod wouldn't have Kryptonian powers?

Because other people had doubts.

But what were those doubts based on?

...on the air probably.

#18 Posted by Lvenger (17887 posts) - - Show Bio

@toptom said:

@lvenger said:

@hewhosees said:

@lvenger said:

Why was there any doubt that Zod wouldn't have Kryptonian powers?

Because other people had doubts.

But what were those doubts based on?

...on the air probably.

Lol probably.

#19 Posted by w0nd (2732 posts) - - Show Bio
@lvenger said:

@hewhosees said:

@lvenger said:

Why was there any doubt that Zod wouldn't have Kryptonian powers?

Because other people had doubts.

But what were those doubts based on?

From what I said before lol. Clark was "special" even on krypton, but special doesn't actually mean a superman baby. People just assumed this and spread the word.

#20 Posted by Lvenger (17887 posts) - - Show Bio

@w0nd said:
@lvenger said:

@hewhosees said:

@lvenger said:

Why was there any doubt that Zod wouldn't have Kryptonian powers?

Because other people had doubts.

But what were those doubts based on?

From what I said before lol. Clark was "special" even on krypton, but special doesn't actually mean a superman baby. People just assumed this and spread the word.

I see. Did you see what @deaditegonzo: wrote?

#21 Posted by w0nd (2732 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Yeah, i just didn't want to talk about it because I might accidentally spoil it or say too much :P

#22 Posted by darknightspideyfanboy (1178 posts) - - Show Bio
#23 Posted by deaditegonzo (3507 posts) - - Show Bio

Honestly, I think its a neat concept, and can imagine it getting integrated into the main universe. Other than the implications it may have for Supergirl, it fits with what we already know about Kryptonians, and just further cements Superman's significance.

Probably no Spoilers in this post, but just being careful.

#24 Posted by SavageDragon (2248 posts) - - Show Bio

Bow before Zod.

#25 Posted by w0nd (2732 posts) - - Show Bio

@deaditegonzo:

She's so kryptonian it hurts. Her fate was probably decided for her back on the planet, I don't think the change would effect her

#26 Edited by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

@w0nd said:

@deaditegonzo:

Her fate was probably decided for her back on the planet.

Yep. The writers just decided Clark's fate on earth. :P

#27 Edited by Teerack (5209 posts) - - Show Bio

@black_claw said:

And why would any comic book reader think that Superman is the only kryptonian with powers under a yellow sun?

Zod having powers is a no brainer.

Yeah, but there was some rumor that Superman would be born with powers on Krypton and Zod and the rest would be wearing armors because they don't have powers and blah, blah, blah.

Well it took Clark 20 years under the Sun to fully develop his powers, so it would make sense.

#28 Edited by deaditegonzo (3507 posts) - - Show Bio

@teerack said:

@smashbrawler said:

@black_claw said:

And why would any comic book reader think that Superman is the only kryptonian with powers under a yellow sun?

Zod having powers is a no brainer.

Yeah, but there was some rumor that Superman would be born with powers on Krypton and Zod and the rest would be wearing armors because they don't have powers and blah, blah, blah.

Well it took Clark 20 years under the Sun to fully develop his powers, so it would make sense.

Eh, only in Byrne's origin and the New 52, Byrnes origin being the worst, imo, and the New 52 doesnt seem likely to be where they got their inspiration from. In fact, im pretty sure I remember them saying that they got their inspiration from Secret Origin.

EDIT: And Birthright.

#29 Posted by Teerack (5209 posts) - - Show Bio

@teerack said:

@smashbrawler said:

@black_claw said:

And why would any comic book reader think that Superman is the only kryptonian with powers under a yellow sun?

Zod having powers is a no brainer.

Yeah, but there was some rumor that Superman would be born with powers on Krypton and Zod and the rest would be wearing armors because they don't have powers and blah, blah, blah.

Well it took Clark 20 years under the Sun to fully develop his powers, so it would make sense.

Eh, only in Byrne's origin and the New 52, Byrnes origin being the worst, imo, and the New 52 doesnt seem likely to be where they got their inspiration from. In fact, im pretty sure I remember them saying that they got their inspiration from Secret Origin.

EDIT: And Birthright.

It also worked that way in Smallville and all of the other Superman movies.

#30 Posted by deaditegonzo (3507 posts) - - Show Bio

@teerack said:

@deaditegonzo said:

@teerack said:

@smashbrawler said:

@black_claw said:

And why would any comic book reader think that Superman is the only kryptonian with powers under a yellow sun?

Zod having powers is a no brainer.

Yeah, but there was some rumor that Superman would be born with powers on Krypton and Zod and the rest would be wearing armors because they don't have powers and blah, blah, blah.

Well it took Clark 20 years under the Sun to fully develop his powers, so it would make sense.

Eh, only in Byrne's origin and the New 52, Byrnes origin being the worst, imo, and the New 52 doesnt seem likely to be where they got their inspiration from. In fact, im pretty sure I remember them saying that they got their inspiration from Secret Origin.

EDIT: And Birthright.

It also worked that way in Smallville and all of the other Superman movies.

No, the Donner Films, including Returns, showed him as having powers from childhood. Baby Clark lifts a tractor in Superman the Movie, and in Superman Returns he is shown running super speed through a cornfield and jumping from Water towers.

Smallville is a soap opera that has nothing to do with Superman.

#31 Posted by Teerack (5209 posts) - - Show Bio

@deaditegonzo: Even if you don't like Smalville it was probably how a huge younger audience got introduced to Superman considering how long the show as been on and the lack of Superman in anything else for so long with the exception of a few minor roles in YJ.

#32 Posted by deaditegonzo (3507 posts) - - Show Bio

@teerack said:

@deaditegonzo: Even if you don't like Smalville it was probably how a huge younger audience got introduced to Superman considering how long the show as been on and the lack of Superman in anything else for so long with the exception of a few minor roles in YJ.

Dont get me wrong, I appreciate Smallville. But, once the schlock has drawn the youngsters in, we should take that opportunity to introduce them to quality materials about the character.

"Oh, you liked Smallville, well, have you ever heard of 'Kingdom Come'?"

#33 Posted by Teerack (5209 posts) - - Show Bio

@deaditegonzo: Yeah but from my experience when ever I try to get someone into comics they go "Yeah but they're so hard to get into" and I'm like "No there are a lot of good jumping on points and self contained stories" and then they go "but I want to read it from the beginning" then they try it read an older book and never want to read a comic again cause most pre 70's books suck. :P

#34 Posted by w0nd (2732 posts) - - Show Bio
@teerack said:

@smashbrawler said:

@black_claw said:

And why would any comic book reader think that Superman is the only kryptonian with powers under a yellow sun?

Zod having powers is a no brainer.

Yeah, but there was some rumor that Superman would be born with powers on Krypton and Zod and the rest would be wearing armors because they don't have powers and blah, blah, blah.

Well it took Clark 20 years under the Sun to fully develop his powers, so it would make sense.

I think that just has to do with age, not how long it takes a kryptonian to get their powers. In the new krypton story the adults all got their powers by the end of the week, they just sucked at using them.

#35 Posted by deaditegonzo (3507 posts) - - Show Bio

@teerack: Hopefully this Man of Steel Movie is as good as it looks, then it may generate the right kind of interest.

#36 Posted by Z3RO180 (6250 posts) - - Show Bio

Can't wait for this movie

#37 Posted by consolemaster001 (4897 posts) - - Show Bio

@w0nd said:

It's because there was a quote going around saying even on krypton Clark was considered special, even though he was an infant child when they sent him away in the trailer it seems. People took those small words and blew it up into something else.

Yeah, I had heard that too, and I had thought the same thing, they really blew that little blurb out of proportion.

Turns out he is special:

"Goyer stated that Superman, or Kal-El as he is born on Kryton, is born illegally in "Man of Steel." "People were bred to be warriors or scientists or what-have-you, and there's a whole element in the movie about nature versus nurture," said Goyer. "Kal-El is unique because he's a natural conception, free from genetic manipulation to choose his own course in life, which also makes his existence highly illegal."

Interesting..

#38 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

Why was there any doubt that Zod wouldn't have Kryptonian powers?

There was an interview a while back that stated that when Kal was born back on Krypton, he was considered to be special even there. People took that as him being the only one with powers. I myself theorized that Clark might possibly have superior powers to that of Zod and the other Kryptonians, hence why they were the armoured suits as they have trouble absorbing yellow sun radiation as quickly as he does. Personally, I think that would make more sense considering he's spent his entire life on Earth.

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#39 Edited by LaserLambert (635 posts) - - Show Bio

I think more importantly, this confirms the kryptonians have heat vision, I can't remember any other trailer or teaser showing Superman using heat vision, seemed weird.

anyway, we also saw someone, maybe Zod, not in a big suit, getting punched around by Superman at the end of the last trailer and not getting squashed like a bug.

#40 Edited by drgnx (3547 posts) - - Show Bio

@w0nd said:

It's because there was a quote going around saying even on krypton Clark was considered special, even though he was an infant child when they sent him away in the trailer it seems. People took those small words and blew it up into something else.

Yeah, I had heard that too, and I had thought the same thing, they really blew that little blurb out of proportion.

Turns out he is special:

"Goyer stated that Superman, or Kal-El as he is born on Kryton, is born illegally in "Man of Steel." "People were bred to be warriors or scientists or what-have-you, and there's a whole element in the movie about nature versus nurture," said Goyer. "Kal-El is unique because he's a natural conception, free from genetic manipulation to choose his own course in life, which also makes his existence highly illegal."

WTF? Something useful actually came out of this thread? I almost didn't click on it,,,

#41 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

Besides him being the main character/plot relevant how does an average earthborn balance against a warlord?

surely Zod must have some combative ability (unlike the old one)

#42 Posted by sinestro_GL (3030 posts) - - Show Bio

Wasn't this obvious enough?

#43 Posted by Lvenger (17887 posts) - - Show Bio

There was an interview a while back that stated that when Kal was born back on Krypton, he was considered to be special even there. People took that as him being the only one with powers. I myself theorized that Clark might possibly have superior powers to that of Zod and the other Kryptonians, hence why they were the armoured suits as they have trouble absorbing yellow sun radiation as quickly as he does. Personally, I think that would make more sense considering he's spent his entire life on Earth.

I see. Now that makes sense why people thought Clark being special meant he was the only super powered kryptonian. Your theory sounds good too. I think I heard something similar in a 'leaked' plot for Man of Steel that turned out to be fan made.

#44 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Fan made huh? Haven't heard that one yet. But I don't really understand why some people are losing it over the fact that Clark may be "superior" to that of Zod and the other surviving Kryptonians :P

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#45 Edited by Lvenger (17887 posts) - - Show Bio

@deranged_midget: I'll see if I can find the source but it was a while ago. And it does make sense doesn't it? Clark's spent his life absorbing solar rays so it's fine that he's more powerful than the other kryptonians.

#46 Edited by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Indeed, it also baffled me that they didn't follow that route in the comics either! Zod just appears out of no where and is instantly as powerful as Clark :/

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#47 Posted by Lvenger (17887 posts) - - Show Bio

@deranged_midget: Yeah I always found that a bit strange. I thought it would at least take some time to power up but no instantly as powerful as a life long solar absorbing kryptonian. Still this is comic books we're talking about :P

#48 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: It makes little sense yeah, but I guess you could argue the point that considering Zod was already an adult, his body processed the energy at a far faster rate while Clark's younger body couldn't contain it all until his adolescence

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#49 Edited by Lvenger (17887 posts) - - Show Bio

@deranged_midget: Someone's mentioned that before as to why adult kryptonians can instantly have the powers Clark took years to gain, Seems plausible.

#50 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Although it seems rather contradictory when you bring up the fact that Kara is relatively an adult and she spent her entire trip to Earth absorbing yellow sun radiation to gain powers similar to Clark.

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