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#151 Posted by TDK_1997 (14663 posts) - - Show Bio

@tdk_1997 said:

@vance_astro said:

@tdk_1997 said:

For me actually OMD wasn't that bad.It did ruin a history kinda but it just wasn't that bad as the current state of the character.Slott created Alpha,most of the cool villains have been frozen and he kept using only Doc Ock,so he can bring this story to us.

I hated OMD but that retcon needed to happen, one way or another. Most arcs that followed it were really good.

I mean for such a big and bold decision to be made for the character and such a story was crucial and it had to happen one way or another.And that's why I didn't hate it that much as all other Spider-Man fans.

I hope OMD hasn't doomed Peter's relationships forever though. I mean, will he ever have a long-term girlfriend, or even a wife? It seems like Dan Slott has been postponing any major developments, in fear of being put in the position to write a new Peter/MJ romance. There's been several moments between the two since Dan Slott started writing, but after MJ realizes Doc Ock has been in Peter's body (once Peter has returned) I'm sure she'll stay away from him for a while.

Currently he will never have a girlfriend,a wife or even a real life friend cause is SSM #9 we saw his consciousness die.

#152 Posted by gotwillpower (679 posts) - - Show Bio

@tdk_1997: I know, right? The return of Peter better have a great explanation, or I'll be disappointed.

#153 Posted by TDK_1997 (14663 posts) - - Show Bio

@gotwillpower: I won't be amazed if the explanation is stupid and Dan Slott becomes even more hated.

#154 Edited by nonvtec (1 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not sure why they think controversy means something is good. I am finished with this mess until someone gets their head out of their rear ends and fixes it and hopefully fixes it right and not another one more day crap with another deal with the devil. And since when did Doc Ock become Peter's greatest enemy? I thought Norman held that spot pretty firmly, but then again Ock thought he was smarter than all the big brains in the marvel universe and always got shown up. I hated how Slott made Peter come off whiny and selfish in this issue just to help justify letting Otto stay spider-man. I guess that's enough whiny for me haha and more than enough of SpOck.

#155 Posted by doffdoff (5 posts) - - Show Bio

I read the first three issues and they were really bad so I quit. Who they hell wants to read a spider-man comic that doesn't even have spider-man in the damn thing.

It's horribly written and having Ock as Spider-man is just pathetic way to grab attention. All Slott does is try to create controversy and hope it sells the badly written comic.

I read this in store, didn't buy it, and I would like to say it made me mad but it didn't..I was just embarassed that Marvel let this one come out.

#156 Posted by akbogert (3215 posts) - - Show Bio

@doffdoff: You know, as much as I loathe this book, you really can't call it badly written. I read the first issue since it was free, and I honestly thought it was pretty decent.

#157 Posted by Tacos_Kickass (844 posts) - - Show Bio

All the rage from the fanboys makes me like Superior Spider-Man even more. Face it hes a more bad ass version of Spider-Man.

#158 Posted by doffdoff (5 posts) - - Show Bio

@akbogert: I have no personal feelings about the writer but I honestly did feel it was pretty badly written. The book just seemed to try to hard and fail. And from what I read afterwards, the inclusion of ghost Peter, the books only saving grace at all was something Slott didn't want

#159 Edited by akbogert (3215 posts) - - Show Bio

@doffdoff: ...and is now rid of.

Like I said, premise/plot-wise, I have plenty of objections. But I just thought from an objective writing standpoint, it was entertaining.

Like, if someone handed me a pile of free issues, I would probably be willing to read them and not consider my time utterly wasted.

#160 Posted by w0nd (3240 posts) - - Show Bio
#161 Posted by doffdoff (5 posts) - - Show Bio

@w0nd: Being a villain pretending to be a hero isn't bad ass its a lame comic book version of freaky friday.

#162 Posted by TheCowman (461 posts) - - Show Bio

Man, I'm not sure what's more entertaining; the Superior story-arc or the prolonged reaction to it.

I don't think OMD got this much drawn out hatred, and that whole arc was nothing but Peter being a moron and making a deal with the freaking devil.

I'm excited to see how Pete will return, but I'll almost be sorry to see it end. The RAGE is just so frickin' great.

#163 Posted by dscythe (40 posts) - - Show Bio

no way, loving this book so far and i cant wait to see the aftermath of pete being "gone"

#164 Posted by frogdog (3246 posts) - - Show Bio

All the rage from the fanboys makes me like Superior Spider-Man even more. Face it hes a more bad ass version of Spider-Man.

He's lame douchebag that treats his friends like trash

#165 Posted by akbogert (3215 posts) - - Show Bio

@thecowman: Well, to be fair, as has been pointed out in another thread, OMD cost Amazing Spider-Man almost 40% of its readership. Permanently. I'd call that a more drawn-out hatred than a bunch of people complaining on a message board :P

#166 Posted by jcolesamuels (20 posts) - - Show Bio

@fadetoblackbolt: while you are correct about somethings there are some things slott has written that i liked. like his stint in grim hunt, the fact that he gave peter a job where he could use his brain and not just for stories was a great change of pace. cause we all knew peter was a genius, we all knew this when stan gave him the smarts enough to make his own web shooters instead of just making it organic like the first 3 movies did. don't get me wrong i like the idea of organic webs it just displays peters brilliance for him to create it on his own. I've always wondered why he wasn't one earlier. oh sure i saw him try to be one but ultimately he had to either give up said position or he got fired i think. the point i'm making is that taking a new direction isn't bad. but doing this with peter isn't honorable its just degrading. i mean there had to be other ways to work this through other ways to make a different spider man. cause thats what this is. having a different spider-man with the same face. its no different than changing him black. i mean this is what i've seen growing up. artist getting tired of drawing peter doing what he does best and wanting to draw someone else doing the same thing. because literally thats all this is.

#167 Posted by Opunaya (26 posts) - - Show Bio

@doffdoff:

@doffdoff said:

@w0nd: Being a villain pretending to be a hero isn't bad ass its a lame comic book version of freaky friday.

Sorry for the late comment, but so much this. How many times has this cliche been done? It's not 'clever' or 'edgy' writing, it's best usage was during Kraven's Last Hunt (when, hilariously enough, Kraven called himself the "superior" Spider-Man after Peter dug himself out of a grave).

#168 Edited by iMind (13 posts) - - Show Bio

Honestly at it's core it's very Peter Parker-esque.. So often we see Spider-Man doing something altruistic and ultimately a little self-defeating. How many times has he had the chance to put away or kill villains? How much of his life is in shambles because he didn't do just that? From the first issue of Spider-Man (for those that are willing to remember or go back and re-read) Doc Ok has been his most true nemesis... to suffer the defeat he has at this point in the series I think is right in line with the spirit of the character. As for those that think his closest friends should know; really? He's constantly leaving things unexplained or worse it's not unusual that those closest to him wouldn't really have any clue what's going on.

#169 Posted by w0nd (3240 posts) - - Show Bio

@imind said:

Honestly at it's core it's very Peter Parker-esque.. So often we see Spider-Man doing something altruistic and ultimately a little self-defeating. How many times has he had the chance to put away or kill villains? How much of his life is in shambles because he didn't do just that? From the first issue of Spider-Man (for those that are willing to remember or go back and re-read) Doc Ok has been his most true nemesis... to suffer the defeat he has at this point in the series I think is right in line with the spirit of the character. As for those that think his closest friends should know; really? He's constantly leaving things unexplained or worse it's not unusual that those closest to him wouldn't really have any clue what's going on.

I like seeing why otto hates him so much, all those bullies mocking him , being stronger than him and ruining his science experiments contained in one body