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Posted by mikehly (89 posts) 9 months, 13 days ago

Do you prefer being a hero or villain? (48 votes)

Hero 56%
Villain 44%
#1 Posted by mikehly (89 posts) - - Show Bio

...I'm a hero that will kill to make sure innocents don't die so am I really a hero?

#2 Posted by Dark_Vengeance_ (13961 posts) - - Show Bio
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#3 Posted by mikehly (89 posts) - - Show Bio
#4 Posted by Armistice (3981 posts) - - Show Bio

Being a villain is fun, but it is also the easy route as you have no restrictions.

Always a fan of the neutral because playing within the grey allows you the most directions to take a character.

#5 Edited by Joygirl (15406 posts) - - Show Bio

Chaotic Neutral anti-villain.

#6 Posted by BaneStrokeLoboGrundyBatArrow (1355 posts) - - Show Bio

Mmmmm probably villain who plays hero sometimes... But mostly bad guy

#7 Posted by Strongarm (5523 posts) - - Show Bio

hero, since everything is so serious today its easier to play at a silver age vibe

#8 Posted by The_Golden_Man (96 posts) - - Show Bio

Well personally evil out of those options. Going in more depth an anti villain or a protagonist who is evil. This gives you freedom to do things that aren't acceptable in society, but still have the humanity aspect to play with.

#9 Posted by Clara Mass (7666 posts) - - Show Bio

Neutrality. Like others say it's fun to do what you wish with that aspect of humanity. I don't think no one really writes the stereotypical hero or villain anymore, unless they're really lazy.

#10 Posted by Fukuro_Zoku (4622 posts) - - Show Bio

Any of the three/nine is fine for me. I can make any of them fun for myself.

#11 Posted by Nightcraft (253 posts) - - Show Bio

I always liked the idea of a villain with strong good morals, showing even evil has its standards.

#12 Edited by _Cain_ (23373 posts) - - Show Bio

Cain's chaotic neutral but sometimes also neutral evil. I just prefer to write the Antagonist really

#13 Posted by EdwardWindsor (14028 posts) - - Show Bio

hero only really wrote grey ok and the little villain stuff i have done isnt that solid.

#14 Posted by Xenon_ (2252 posts) - - Show Bio

Hero here

#15 Posted by superstay (9382 posts) - - Show Bio

I have a hard time getting into the mindset of a villain. Since I'm naturally a goody-two-shoes, it's easier for me to play a hero or good-neutral.

But shoot, their are so little heroes, I feel like an outcast.

d^_^b

#16 Posted by Strongarm (5523 posts) - - Show Bio
#17 Edited by Xenon_ (2252 posts) - - Show Bio

You know what. Do we actually have a TRUE Hero? I can't name one true hero on the Vine. lmfao

#18 Edited by Strongarm (5523 posts) - - Show Bio

@xenon_: gonna make a true hero hamster soon

#19 Posted by Xenon_ (2252 posts) - - Show Bio
#20 Posted by Strongarm (5523 posts) - - Show Bio

@xenon_: since everyone is so serious with mercs and demons, might as well make something light and fun

#21 Posted by Xenon_ (2252 posts) - - Show Bio
#22 Posted by Strongarm (5523 posts) - - Show Bio
#23 Posted by Shanana (52686 posts) - - Show Bio

58 percent say villains, but I fail to see any lol

#24 Posted by Xenon_ (2252 posts) - - Show Bio
#25 Posted by -Eclipse- (7360 posts) - - Show Bio

@xenon_ said:

You know what. Do we actually have a TRUE Hero? I can't name one true hero on the Vine. lmfao

True Blue is my middle name(s), son.

In answer to the question, I've always found the mindset of a hero far more interesting than anything else. The Vine has always been heavy on the grey, most people enjoy writing a neutral because it allows them to take the character in pretty much whatever direction they like, I can understand that having written as Hesperus for a while too.

But still, I think that heroes are the most interesting characters of all. Neutrals and villains tend to be built around the concept of self-preservation, which is totally natural and evolutionary and sensible. The hero dedicates himself to selfless acts and risks their life on a daily basis, which is unnatural and suicidal and crazy. I've never found heroes easier to write, but when a writer really gets into their character's head and figures out why, of all things, their character wants to be a hero... that's what really captures my attention.

Back in Prime I had an easy answer for why Eclipse was a hero: he was destined to die, self-preservation was out of the question. So his motivation was easy to build out of that. Now, here in the NU, he has no such destiny, so it's a lot more challenging to figure out why this guy is a hero.

#26 Posted by Pyrogram (32271 posts) - - Show Bio

@_eclipse_:

I see. Interesting. With my Anthony Stark, I had a good spin on his "hero" status and it was fun delving into how his life was, I done blogs about it almost daily lol.

I just re-modded Pyro and you can count him as a true Hero now. Time to*cracks knuckles* initiate some fun writing with Pyro :P

#27 Posted by -Eclipse- (7360 posts) - - Show Bio

@pyrogram: Nice :)

And also, I kinda agree that there isn't really an established 'true' hero around here. I guess because the New universe is still young, and in Prime when most of us arrived there were a lot of established heroes to draw inspiration from, Andferne, LstPaladin, Kurrent, etc. Here, we don't have that. But the thing is, when you see a gap like that, a free spot at the top of the pyramid where the title of 'Vine's greatest hero' awaits, you should reach out and try and fill that void yourself. You gotta dedicate yourself to being a great hero, to rallying other heroes around you, and more importantly you need to not retcon that character when you get bored with him ;P

#28 Posted by Pyrogram (32271 posts) - - Show Bio

@_eclipse_: It's true. I tried to fill the gap with Stark, but ended up committing genocide. >.> Shiit.

Luckily, I have personally never RPGed on Pyrogram with a dedicated character so I don't think I will get bored of this guy...hopefully not anyways. lmfao.

#29 Posted by -Eclipse- (7360 posts) - - Show Bio

@pyrogram: Haha, yup, I noticed xP

I think you need to find a character that works for you and really invest yourself in him. It's just retcons that bug me, man, haha... I mean if you get bored with your character there is a lot you can do to spice it up without needing to throw the whole concept out the window :P

#30 Edited by Pyrogram (32271 posts) - - Show Bio

@_eclipse_: It was superbly fun though. And Stark is still a Hero. Sorta.

Xenon is that character for me now. Pyro is just an enigma lol But. I think I will enjoy this new look.

#31 Posted by AmazingAngel (3844 posts) - - Show Bio

@xenon_ said:

You know what. Do we actually have a TRUE Hero? I can't name one true hero on the Vine. lmfao

#32 Edited by Xenon_ (2252 posts) - - Show Bio

@amazingangel: Oh. Well, Does Angel not kill? I thought he did >_> Big in Japan is just a load of killing right? Maybe Angel can get depression 'cos of it lol

#33 Posted by Arquitenens (3421 posts) - - Show Bio

@xenon_: I was totally a true hero before all the crap happened.

Of course, there's also accounting what different people consider a "true hero."

#34 Posted by Xenon_ (2252 posts) - - Show Bio

@arquitenens: You advocated child slavery, you cannot talk to me about being a hero :D

#35 Posted by Arquitenens (3421 posts) - - Show Bio

Yep. Still a hero.

#36 Edited by Xenon_ (2252 posts) - - Show Bio

@arquitenens: You have a funny definition of Hero, I thought they fought against things like Child Soldiers.

#37 Posted by AmazingAngel (3844 posts) - - Show Bio

@xenon_: Angel wouldn't kill any human but one of the ancient evil Firebrands that took his family........well I guess we'll just have to see what happens.

#38 Edited by Fukuro_Zoku (4622 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, heroine.

@xenon_: There was no "advocating." You're pulling an Aunt Sally.

#39 Posted by Xenon_ (2252 posts) - - Show Bio
#40 Edited by Thirteen13 (415 posts) - - Show Bio

@armistice said:

Being a villain is fun, but it is also the easy route as you have no restrictions.

I agree with this playing a villain seems much more fun and unrestricted, however, I think it is much more difficult to come up with a legitimate/original/interesting background for a villain type rather than being a villain for the sake of it.

#41 Posted by Fukuro_Zoku (4622 posts) - - Show Bio

@xenon_: Lady Liberty can explain it better than I, but in the classics, the Greeks and stuff, their definition of hero wasn't anything like "this person is a paragon of perfection who never does anything wrong or makes mistakes," or anything like that. You've got tragic heroes, and epic heroes, and they usually ended up, at some point, making a mistake or doing something wrong, often due to a lapse in judgment due to hubris (or in this case, pressure from Quintus and the godling, and the situation at hand). But what made them heroic was the doing of great deeds and overcoming powerful odds, courage and self-sacrifice.

#42 Posted by Xenon_ (2252 posts) - - Show Bio

@_strigidae_: Oh I see. Greeks and the hero stuff were pretty fun, and in some ways ( a lot ) had more depth than people like superman IMO. Tragic heroes are my fave also.

Oh, And I have a new nickname for myself on Pyro! - Paragon of perfection :P

#43 Edited by Fukuro_Zoku (4622 posts) - - Show Bio

@xenon_: Liberty knows more about it than me, but I've got a somewhat grasp. One of the big influences when I made Olivier's backstory (probably because it was also heavy in the inspirations of sources I was drawing from).

Actually, I think we assigned that one to a Gambler or Impero alt already. There was "the Pinnacle of Perfection," and "Paragon of Perfection."

#44 Posted by Pyrogram (32271 posts) - - Show Bio

@_strigidae_: Considering Greek Myths and Legends are something which I have studied stupidly too much, I understand.

Paragon of Power as somebody suggested to me earlier then! xD

#45 Posted by -Eclipse- (7360 posts) - - Show Bio

@_strigidae_: Well back in those days, 'hero' was pretty much just their word for 'protagonist'. Though I think it's important to remember that most characters, whether they are a hero or villain, think of themselves as the 'hero' in that sense of the word. Everyone's a hero in their own way :P

#46 Posted by Xenon_ (2252 posts) - - Show Bio
#47 Posted by Fukuro_Zoku (4622 posts) - - Show Bio
#48 Edited by -Eclipse- (7360 posts) - - Show Bio

#49 Posted by Assault (1087 posts) - - Show Bio

@xenon_ said:

You know what. Do we actually have a TRUE Hero? I can't name one true hero on the Vine. lmfao

True Blue is my middle name(s), son.

In answer to the question, I've always found the mindset of a hero far more interesting than anything else. The Vine has always been heavy on the grey, most people enjoy writing a neutral because it allows them to take the character in pretty much whatever direction they like, I can understand that having written as Hesperus for a while too.

But still, I think that heroes are the most interesting characters of all. Neutrals and villains tend to be built around the concept of self-preservation, which is totally natural and evolutionary and sensible. The hero dedicates himself to selfless acts and risks their life on a daily basis, which is unnatural and suicidal and crazy. I've never found heroes easierto write, but when a writer really gets into their character's head and figures out why, of all things, their character wants to be a hero... that's what really captures my attention.

Back in Prime I had an easy answer for why Eclipse was a hero: he was destined to die, self-preservation was out of the question. So his motivation was easy to build out of that. Now, here in the NU, he has no such destiny, so it's a lot more challenging to figure out why this guy is a hero.

Yeah I was gonna say you're probably the truest blue around.

#50 Posted by Connoisseur (6513 posts) - - Show Bio

Neutrals and Byronic Heroes.