@fodigg said:
PG was done better in that regard than other characters who had racy look-at-my-figure costumes (e.g., Ms Marvel). Like pre-revamp Starfire, she was one of the characters who could get away with itbecause some good writers made it work with the character personality, but to claim that her costume wasn't cheesecake when it had a friggin boob window to highlight her most-common-superpower or that her ultra-curvy figure didn't originate from a juvenile game played by an artist who wanted to see what they could get away with (or so the urban legend goes) is, in my opinion, putting the blinders on a little bit. The fans did not start that, the creators did. Yes, the situation can absolutely be redeemed by good writing—and has in the past, which is why I highlighted Amanda Conner's work—but it can also drag the character down to the lowest common denominator.
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I wouldn't hold up Catwoman as sexy done right. Especially after the revamp. As for your points about "she's curvy! they're boobs! what's the problem?", well that doesn't mean they need a boob window to highlight the damn things. Everything good thing about PG can be delivered without it, so if it's a problem at all—and it is because it's a barrier to entry when general audience fans feel it means they can write the character off—well why not ditch it?
Also, I don't know if you intended this or not, but I resent the implication that if you don't like the boob window that you're some sort of fake Power Girl fan. I read it, I like the character, I don't like the boob window. That's a perfectly valid perspective.
Get away with what? Having big boobs and showing them off a little? Why does that have to be written a certain way to justify it? They are boobs! They are comic characters! Why do people try to pour cold water on female comic book characters?
Comic books have always been sensationalist and risque back to the 1930s. That's what comic books are: entertainment! Other media - movies, television, novels, computer games - also feature boobs, along with all the other things which draw audiences in.
A boob window doesn't make a costume cheesecake. A "friggin" boob window is a regular feature in women's fashion. Nobody calls that cheesecake. And we are talking about a costume here, which is not even normal fashion and therefore has even more excuse for being exotic.
That "superpower" article is just the kind of childish or politicized attitude I am talking about.We have these feminists and moralists standing by with tape measures to monitor bust size and costume designs. It's like the old matrons who measured the hem lengths of young ladies skirts.
Yes that canard about Wally Wood is a myth. You only have to flip through those issues yourself to see that, though there are a couple of issues around that time where her boobs suddenly double in size (which is nothing to complain about). Back then her boobs were not so big to begin with.That began with Bart Sears in the late 80's/early 90's and even he didn't usually draw them excessively big. So no, her boob size did not begin as a juvenile artist's joke. She had that physique from her first appearance.
I'm not holding up Catwoman as "done right" (though I don't see anything wrong), my point was that nobody complains about her enormous boobs spilling out of the zipper of her tight leather body-suit, yet PG gets a boob widow and look out everybody!
We don't need a boob window but that is not a reason to object to a boob window. Why not highlight her boobs? What does getting rid of the boob window achieve? It's not like spandex can hide boobs the size of PG's anyway. Remember the yellow-and-white jumpsuit? It made Wally West's eyes pop out when he first saw her in it and commented how tightly it was stretched over her boobs. Actually, West was also horny over PG when he first met her, wearing the low-cut version of her costume.
It's not non-readers or potential readers of PG who have a hang-up about her boobs, except for the feminist-influenced slut-shamers who object to the slightest "sexualization" of any female superhero. I mostly hear it from PG fans who are overly conscious of what non-fans might think. They are either afraid that PG's boobs are what are hurting her popularity and sales or afraid that other people will get the wrong impression about why they like the character because the first thing they notice is her boobs. So they say get rid of the boobs so that people can see her other good qualities.
Okay, here is my solution: STOP CARING ABOUT WHAT NON-READERS THINK AND JUST ENJOY READING PG FOR WHAT SHE IS. She can have good qualities as well as big boobs - and a boob window in her costume if she, her artists or her readers like it. The non-readers will eventually catch on. Be brave!
I don't know where I implied that fans who don't like the boob window are fake. All I'm talking about is the people who have a hang-up about it for no good reason, fans and non-fans. If you don't like the window, fine, but don't try to rationalize it and tell me why I shouldn't like it either. Personally I don't care that much whether she has a boob window - PG looks fine in any respectably designed costume.
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