The Invincibly Super Massive Comic Book Podcast of Stuff: Episode 77
@unpopularkarama: As long as you listen to the show.
BTW fellas, the Pentagon in Virginia, across the river from DC. And the Triskelion from Cap 2 was built 1/2 a mile from it. I wonder how much paperwork it took for SHIELD to get approval for that one.
Great podcast guys! BUT, I gotta disagree about a lot of the complaints you both have. I thought the amount of future stuff was perfect and the way they handled Wolverine in the movie was better than he has ever been handled on the big screen. I love Wolverine when he acts as a supporting character and not a lead. He was the inciting moment for the story but ultimately the movie was about young Xavier, Magneto, and Mystique. The screenplay was tight and the story was fully engaging. This movie could have easily been just another cluster, like X3, with too many mutants and plot threads going on with very little satisfying purpose but Singer and company really pulled it off. I loved it.
The only thing that bothered me, as it did with you as well Tony, was Kitty magically being able to send people's consciousnesses back. It would have made much more sense for a telepath to do it. Introducing a Rachel Grey character would have been cool or they could have just made old Xavier do it. I get that they wanted to throw fans a bone and make Kitty important but I kept waiting for them to explain why she all of a sudden had this new power but they never did.
@syncig: I love when people reasonably disagree. There's no reason for everyone to feel the same. But also keep in mind for all our complaints, we were simply seeking out what bothered us. We both did really enjoy the movie. And I saw it again over the weekend with my wife and daughter.
As for Kitty, yeah. Secondary mutation? Okay, fine. It was their way to include Kitty since she was such a crucial part of the original story. But having her in the role wouldn't have worked since she wasn't around in 1973. It's fine. That didn't bother me as much as other things.
@g_man: Exactly. Half the fun with comics/comic related media is being able to discuss them with others. If everyone held the same opinion the world would be a really boring place.
Yeah I agree, the Kitty thing was a minor gripe. Secondary mutations have been an established part of the X-Men for a while now so I can kind of overlook that.
@syncig: I love when people reasonably disagree. There's no reason for everyone to feel the same. But also keep in mind for all our complaints, we were simply seeking out what bothered us. We both did really enjoy the movie. And I saw it again over the weekend with my wife and daughter.
As for Kitty, yeah. Secondary mutation? Okay, fine. It was their way to include Kitty since she was such a crucial part of the original story. But having her in the role wouldn't have worked since she wasn't around in 1973. It's fine. That didn't bother me as much as other things.
The way I kinda thought Kitty's new powers were working was that normally she can phase matter through other solid matter but in the future her powers became so strong that's able to phase minds through anti-matter (see Quantum Field theory) basically allowing her to time-travel.
@g_man not sure if you guys recorded this before the interview but or not but Singer says X-Men Apoc will take place in the 80s and that this film was basically a farewell to the old X-Men cast also Jackman wants to do Old Man Logan for the next Wolverine.
@g_man: Great show! It's probably the second best X-Men film. Or first...
The creators are to be commended for being able to pull together the mess that was the X-Men films in a pretty solid way and make way for a fresh start as well.
I would have probably preferred it if they just took First Class and ran with that, ignoring the other films but this was an admirable solution.
The whole Quicksilver thing was kind of sad in my opinion. Sure he looked stupid but then they basically make him so powerful that he's nearly broken. He could have done so many other things and solves so many other problems without even breaking a sweat.
The scene at night on the train where Magneto imbues the Sentinels with metal had some very shoddy CGI as well.
@g_man Looking at the changes in star power is interesting too. Wolverine was not nearly as prominent as I expected and the main focus is the new hot star Jennifer Lawrence.
I do hope they keep the focus on the First Class characters for the Apocalypse film though.
Thanks for coming in for the talk, Norm. Always fun to hear you two discuss comic book films.
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