Posted by G-Man (18890 posts) - - Show Bio



It's Friday so that means another episode of the Comic Vine Podcast. 
 
This week Drew from Giant Bomb joins in on the fun.  Our conversation dealt with Zombies, Monkey Hitman (and assless chaps), is Moonstone a skank, why people should like Wonder Woman and if Batman can take on Carrot Top.
 
We also manage to squeeze some actual comic book talk, specifically the Punisher and his current "FrankenCastle" situation along with this week's comic covers.
 
Grab a snack and a pair of headphones and click below:  
 
  
 Leave a comment here or visit the regular podcast page to throw in your two cents.
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#1 Posted by crazywolf (625 posts) - - Show Bio

A ripped Carrottop... ew...

#2 Posted by Agent Buttons (12411 posts) - - Show Bio
@crazywolf said:
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A ripped Carrottop... ew...

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#3 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

Good stuff. Is it me though or do G-man and Sara never interact? Its like you guys dont feed off one another...

#4 Posted by Comiclove5 (1258 posts) - - Show Bio

Most teen guys don't like Wonder Woman, but for me if the book is good (in my opionion) it doesn't matter if the main chacter is A Man or a Woman, Gay or Straight, Alien or Human whatever or whatever. I am going to read the book or if the concept of the character(s) interest me. 

#5 Posted by Red L.A.M.P. (2547 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gambler said:
" Good stuff. Is it me though or do G-man and Sara never interact? Its like you guys dont feed off one another... "
It's just that they cant take their eyes off me!
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#6 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio
@Red L.A.M.P. said:
" @Gambler said:
" Good stuff. Is it me though or do G-man and Sara never interact? Its like you guys dont feed off one another... "
It's just that they cant take their eyes off me! "
See, I was gonna say that but I didnt want to air your bizznes out in the streets.
#7 Posted by G-Man (18890 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gambler: Because of our busy schedules, we actually record these podcasts separately...
#8 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio
@G-Man said:
" @Gambler: Because of our busy schedules, we actually record these podcasts separately... "
 Makes sense.
 
@CASSANDRA CAIN, LADY SHIVA, and Sara all in the same podcast? Plus Drew dropping some funny ish...I usually dont listen to these but this one was classic. Well played.
#9 Posted by G-Man (18890 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gambler: We also have a podcast writer that writes our dialogue.  This way we can just phone in our lines whenever we want.  We usually record these a few weeks in advanced.
#10 Edited by FoxxFireArt (3404 posts) - - Show Bio

You see, everyone notices that Spider-man cover has been used ad nauseum. I believe it was even parodied for Gen 13 #1 as one of the MANY variant covers.

I had a friend on the high school football team that could bench press 300lbs (136kilo). It was scary. There is something odd about a buff comedian. They always look like bullies.
 
Catwoman needs more then a single issue. I'm a firm believer that a comic story needs to be at least three parts with each issue as an act. One issue is pretty insulting to a character of that status. How many comics is Wolverine in? Though his title is currently usurped.
 
Of couse Bruce will be back!! Ye of little faith. There are the markings that he's left that are clues. G-Man found one.
 
I finally saw GI Joe: The Rise of Cobra on DVD. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. It was pretty entertaining. Though, I do agree that the Baron Cobre and Cobra was stupid since he wasn't really involved. He was a patsy.
 
Have a Happy Thanksgiving to everyone at the staff and ComicVine community!!!

#11 Posted by NightFang (10261 posts) - - Show Bio
@crazywolf said:
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A ripped Carrottop... ew...

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             WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN!!!!!!!????

#12 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio
@G-Man said:
" @Gambler: We also have a podcast writer that writes our dialogue.  This way we can just phone in our lines whenever we want.  We usually record these a few weeks in advanced. "
When do I get to phone in for my special guest appearance?
#13 Posted by crazywolf (625 posts) - - Show Bio
@NightFang: 
Not that long ago I guess. Maybe between 2007-2008. Not sure. People still get surprised about it.
#14 Posted by Dipic (127 posts) - - Show Bio

Holy site-overhaul Batman!
 
Sorry, couldn't help but comment on that. Looks pretty good for the most part...

#15 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

Good lookin' out Lamp on mentioning my Bastard.

#16 Posted by Darkchild (41448 posts) - - Show Bio

You had me at bamboo butts, classic guys

#17 Edited by sora_thekey (8185 posts) - - Show Bio

I want tot contradict Babs!!! 
 
The fact that Ms. Marvel (Karla) is on every Dark Avenger doesn't make her weak. It makes her a slut, but not a weak female character. I do think it's kind of off for her to be doing this. (or Bendis writing her like that)... My assumption is that her meds are off... If you remeber Mac Gargan is turing all girlie, so someting might be wrong... 
 
Also in the Ms. Marvel series she was never potrayed like that so if your opinion on Karla has to be changed then everybody needs to read Ms. Marvel 
 

#18 Posted by KansetsuWaza (24 posts) - - Show Bio

thats a scary sight!!

#19 Edited by TheBug (1069 posts) - - Show Bio

Did I hear a Booster Gold dis?  
 
I have never read Wonder Woman. She's always seemed too Godess like in the JLA, so I wasn't interested in her title. Give me Manhunter over her any day.

#20 Posted by G-Man (18890 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheBug: Personally, I like Booster Gold. I really like how he's more of a 'hero' now but no one knows it.
#21 Posted by No_Name_ (12593 posts) - - Show Bio
@sora_thekey: Just because a female character appears in a comic does not make her a strong character.
 
I think we may have different opinions regarding what we think makes a strong woman in comics, and the current Ms. Marvel (Moonstone) written by Bendis is not a good example of that, in my opinion.
 
Also, the word "slut" really irks me. It's ok for a guy to be with three different girls, but when a girl is with three different guys, she's a slut? I think that just makes her horny.
#22 Posted by No_Name_ (12593 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheBug said:
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Did I hear a Booster Gold dis?  
 
I have never read Wonder Woman. She's always seemed too Godess like in the JLA, so I wasn't interested in her title. Give me Manhunter over her any day.

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You choose Manhunter over Wondy any day but you've never read her book?
#23 Posted by aztek_the_lost (28224 posts) - - Show Bio
@Babs said:
" @sora_thekey:Also, the word "slut" really irks me. It's ok for a guy to be with three different girls, but when a girl is with three different guys, she's a slut? I think that just makes her horny. "
the reason it works like that is because men are already stereotyped as all being constantly horny so men are expecting to constantly have sex...like Zeus for example 
 
while women on the other hand are stereotyped as enjoying shopping, aaaand okay I actually have no idea what else women do but the point is the stereotypical man/woman interaction is a man hitting on this girl on a club because he's horny and her turning him down because he's repulsive...so if a woman is horny she's stepping outside of the stereotype of "stay-at-home moms" and all that nonsense and therefore a slut 
 
I'm not defending the stereotypes, but every judgment anyone ever makes in life is based off of stereotypes even if you don't realize it...I'm just saying that's why a horny woman is a slut and a horny man is just a man
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#24 Posted by sora_thekey (8185 posts) - - Show Bio
@Babs said:
" @sora_thekey: Just because a female character appears in a comic does not make her a strong character.  I think we may have different opinions regarding what we think makes a strong woman in comics, and the current Ms. Marvel (Moonstone) written by Bendis is not a good example of that, in my opinion.  Also, the word "slut" really irks me. It's ok for a guy to be with three different girls, but when a girl is with three different guys, she's a slut? I think that just makes her horny. "

I actually never said it was ok for a guy to be with three girls at once... I actually find that wrong (This is my opinion in case this affects anybody). 

I do agreee the writers take on a character might differ from another, and you're right just because she comes out on a comic doesn't mean she's a strong character. (Mary Jane ). but I do think that on her own title she's a better character. I think as far as karla she's a srong female character because her origins and added to that the people she "hangs" with. If she weren't a strong character she wouldn't be trying to have sex with her teammates they would be trying with her.  
 
She takes initiative = makes her a strong female character 
She refuses to be a tool = makes her a strong female character 
A girl who is used as a sex tool or "grupies" other guys and hides from the war line = weak female character 
 
That's how I measure it...
#25 Posted by Archetype (731 posts) - - Show Bio

 @Babs:
 
Aziz Ansari as Randy is hilarious, his satire of current comics' acts was spot on. He's the only comic with a DJ,ballin!
 
If I had to pick one hero to go bad it would be Supergirl (I make them good girls go bad) no it wouldn't be her I just couldn't think of anyone so I made a horrible joke, and if that wasn't enough I also don't make good girls go bad. :( Most of the major heroes have either already been evil at some point or had an evil version of them show up so it's hard to pick one that hasn't been done. Although I believe I answered this question in one of the "question of the day" posts and I chose Reed Richards because Sue is usually the one who turns evil when they(the FF) visit some alternate reality or whatever.

#26 Posted by TheBug (1069 posts) - - Show Bio
@Babs said:
" @TheBug said:
"

Did I hear a Booster Gold dis?  
 
I have never read Wonder Woman. She's always seemed too Godess like in the JLA, so I wasn't interested in her title. Give me Manhunter over her any day.

"
You choose Manhunter over Wondy any day but you've never read her book? "

I have never read her series, but I've read plenty of other titles in which she was a main character. I don't hate Diana, but she's just not my thing. Best thing I ever read with her would have to be Kingdom Come.
#27 Posted by Speedy92286 (197 posts) - - Show Bio

First time listening to the podcast! Very entertaining, guys! Had a few laughs before work. Anyway, while listening I heard Babs ask what Ms. Marvel fans think of Moonstone. I am a fan of Ms. Marvel, but a bigger one of Moonstone, so I guess that counts...somewhat. My first real exposure to Moonstone was during Ellis' run of Thunderbolts, and in the run she came off as the !@#$%y character I usually happen to love. The writing of the series was great and I was happy. Then after on the Marvel forums I heard that the new series is much worse than the old one. So I decided to see if I can find the series online. Finding a torrent from issue 1-current, mini's included I hit download. After a few days I got my hands on the old series. And it was bliss!
 
It took me a long time to finish the series, but very quickly Moonstone became one of my favorites, if not my favorite character of the bunch. Great powers, good personality, and had an interesting role on the team. Then I went back to Ellis' and I was disgusted a little. Sure, Moonstone was there, but became more of a !@#$% than she should. The random sex thing didn't bother me, but the refusal to really fight bothered me. Then Dark Reign came along and Karla(Moonstone) was going along as Ms. Marvel. She had a bigger role and fought! Happiness was mine! Then she was apparently being written as a whore by Bendis. Not just the random sex with Marvel Boy, but the way she was drawn, her dialogue...just terrible. 
 
Then Ms. Marvel "died" and Karla took over the series. I figured maybe she would be written well and can redeem Karla. No chance. Apparently Reed hates writing Moonstone, so her personality was a wet blanket. I read the series up to 46 for the character, but little else. I read up on the older issues, and it gave me a love for Carol, so when she blew up, I was a bit upset. Well, long story short, I am glad Karla is now Moonstone again and out of Reed's hands. Reed is great with Ms. Marvel, so maybe I can find some more joy in the title next issue.
 
Sorry for the long summary! The point is, Moonstone wasn't always like this and was one of my favorite female characters. Now she is just going downhill in every appearance. The worst thing is, Bendis is not going to change her personality any. She is going to "use her body" to get her way and so on. Yay! So Moonstone's personality is when she "uses her body," Whatever. I still love the character, but now I am getting tired of the bad presentation. Ah well, at least Carol is back! =D
 
Hope to hear the podcast next week!

#28 Edited by Seldon (6 posts) - - Show Bio

An amusing podcast.

As far as the Moonstone argument goes I agree that she seems to be less scheming than I remember her being in the old Thunderbolts. I hope she really does have a snaky plan or two in the works unbeknownst to all. I am not a fan of obedient soldier-esk Moonstone.

English (not Welsh) person’s view - Pronunciate is not a word :)

#29 Posted by Tom_1994 (38 posts) - - Show Bio

LOVE IT!! But why not one this week? is it something to do with thanksgiving?

#30 Posted by aztek_the_lost (28224 posts) - - Show Bio
@tom_1994 said:
" LOVE IT!! But why not one this week? is it something to do with thanksgiving? "
it has everything to do with Thanksgiving
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