" When you become owner of the worst garbage dump in town and start trying to clean things up, people will still complain that it's the worst garbage dump in town and it's all your fault. "
" Hey, so long as Palin doesn't get elected I'm down with that. Anyone who doesn't believe in Evolution, and wants to take Polar Bears off the Red List to drill for Oil doesn't deserve to be in control of a big country. "
I don't know many people in real life who voted for him in 2008, and those who did won't vote for him again. "
Yep...and now we are learning from out mistakes lol...well hopefully. At this point I'd almost consider anyone in 2012 over Obomination! ;)
This site is obviously heavily liberal, look at the poll lol...on most other sites it's not even close...most people feel Obama I know elsewhere I go think he's one of the worst ever and definitely won't be getting reelected in 2012.... I think I know why but I'll IM more about that.
I don't know many people in real life who voted for him in 2008, and those who did won't vote for him again. "
Yep...and now we are learning from out mistakes lol...well hopefully. At this point I'd almost consider anyone in 2012 over Obomination! ;) This site is obviously heavily liberal, look at the poll lol...on most other sites it's not even close...most people feel Obama I know elsewhere I go think he's one of the worst ever and definitely won't be getting reelected in 2012.... I think I know why but I'll IM more about that. But yeah I agree with you 100% Roxy ;) "
Just because alot of people here voted for Obama or are on his side doesn't make us liberals.
" Honestly, I don't think he will. I didn't originally vote for him, so I'm not terribly upset over it. There have been too many problems while he was in office though most were not his fault to blame. Part of being president is to take the fall of things you were not responsible for. "
@agent9149: all i know is that i had alot better job in 08 than i do now but do to cut back 7 months ago i was laid off im fortunate enough to have found a decent replacement job (thanks to family but im making half of what i was making ,i worked for a nuts and bolts company that had a lot of government/military contracts and more than half of our orders were cut since the obama administration meaning major cut back = me lossing and alot of other losing their good pay jobs tell me if thats right....
" @agent9149: all i know is that i had alot better job in 08 than i do now but do to cut back 7 months ago i was laid off im fortunate enough to have found a decent replacement job (thanks to family but im making half of what i was making ,i worked for a nuts and bolts company that had a lot of government/military contracts and more than half of our orders were cut since the obama administration meaning major cut back = me lossing and alot of other losing their good pay jobs tell me if thats right.... "
That unfortunate, but from my angle it looks like Bush built a house of cards and Obama takes the blame cause it fell when he was in office.
" @agent9149: all i know is that i had alot better job in 08 than i do now but do to cut back 7 months ago i was laid off im fortunate enough to have found a decent replacement job (thanks to family but im making half of what i was making ,i worked for a nuts and bolts company that had a lot of government/military contracts and more than half of our orders were cut since the obama administration meaning major cut back = me lossing and alot of other losing their good pay jobs tell me if thats right.... "
That unfortunate, but from my angle it looks like Bush built a house of cards and Obama takes the blame cause it fell when he was in office. "
" @agent9149: all i know is that i had alot better job in 08 than i do now but do to cut back 7 months ago i was laid off im fortunate enough to have found a decent replacement job (thanks to family but im making half of what i was making ,i worked for a nuts and bolts company that had a lot of government/military contracts and more than half of our orders were cut since the obama administration meaning major cut back = me lossing and alot of other losing their good pay jobs tell me if thats right.... "
That unfortunate, but from my angle it looks like Bush built a house of cards and Obama takes the blame cause it fell when he was in office. "
Although Bush and his administration were a disaster for the economy it's not entirely their fault. Blame for the economic crisis the usa is in now can be given to Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton as well.
@TheNooseIsLoose: well it was a pretty sweet deal especially since the contracts were set to be until the year 2024 but cause of the new administration thought it was careless spending they pretty much stop paying and their a breach of contract lawsuit going on but i wont get my job back..... there was a lot of jgood people that lost good honest jobs... the company hired over 500 employees since 2003 to keep up with the demands and let go about 600 since we lost the contracts so how did bush build that deck of cards and let obama let it fall? starting salary at entry was 30grand with just high school education every one was working monday thru friday 8 hour shifts 3 different shifts to pick from... those contracts gave people job security a sense that things werent that bad and this administration took that away.... and dont give me u got to break a few eggs to make an omelet BS peoples lives arent eggs and life isnt an omelet
@oiHooliganismoi: You losing your job is unfortunate but making budget cuts comes with being the boss. I'm not trying to argue with you and my heart goes out to you but I don't think Obama was like "I want those people to lose their jobs, cut their funding." I think you taking your anger at the situation out on the guy who had to make the big decision, and his options were probably get ride of these peoples jobs or those people. It happens in every business and its not right or wrong its just unfortunate. I'm seriously not trying to be a d*ck, I'm just trying to look at the big picture.
I doubt it....he's horrible. I'd rather have Palin or anyone at this point over Obama....
@Undergroundgod said:
"I am Black, and I don't want him... I didn't want him the first time... I wanted a Black President don't get me wrong... Just not him. Not his Wife either... I am not a fan of the First Lady. I like Obama don't get me wrong, I just think he is a piss poor President is all... I would kick it with him any time. I said he wouldn't be able to do anything worth while, and look he has not. 4 More years... Won't matter... Truth is he will be re elected again in 2012. I just don't care. "
I give you a lot credit man, I'm not black but I am latino and a minority regardless and I'm sure you get the same bs people give me..."what, you're a minority and NOT for Obama?!?" What's wrong with you?!?!? lol but I'm like umm, sorry but I'm not for socialist or extreme radicals...which Obama is...not to mention if anything he makes us look very weak if you think about it...he's always bowing down to everyone literally...(and he can't even do that right, the japanese emperer....nuff said lol) and pretty much blames us for everything wrong and preaches "things we have to do yet doesn't actually do them"...
The only thing he's done is pass a shitty healthcare bill which sucks for half the country, and good for the lazy bums out there who want the government to give them everything and live off other hard working people....lame. What people don't realize is it's quality, not quantity....
@Nick, dude he passed the most controversial healthbill in history....not good when it's controversial lol...and the closing of Guatanamo Bay=freaking retarded and FAIL...ohh let's just release the terrorists from lock up...Obama is on drugs...
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Do you remember the last guy in office that got us into a war for non existent WMD's? Remember how said guy got re-elected?
I hope you kidding. You would rather have the woman that couldn't even run Alaska and became another clown on Faux News, who has less experience than Obama, who single handidly curbstomped the McCain campaign? The woman doesn't even know history and wants to compare him to Reagan despite clearly not knowing a damn thing about Reagan?
Shes not fit to be Vice President much less run the country.
Show me some evidence of how much of a socialist the man is or how much of an extreme radical he is. He's bowed like what 8 times? Sure it's fun to poke fun at, but he's not bowing to every single person, much less it being a sign of weakness. Bush was holding hands and kissing people on the cheek when they came to the white house.
Show me where he's putting any unjust blame on the US.
I doubt either of us know it's shitty or not. It's not good when it's controversial? Should I point out the government finnally getting around to letting women or black men voting being controversial at the time? Or about the half a dozen other things that large somes of people fought tooth and nail against that worked out just fine? Most of the people that fought the bill didn't even know a damn thing about it and still don't. Theres plenty of BS thats still out there on it that are completely fabricated rumors you have being emailed to people to scare them.
WTF are you talking about just releasing the terrorists? They would still be in jail, just not in another country and everything would go by the book. The President is on drugs for keeping a campaign promise and signing an executive order to shut that abomination Gitmo down for good? It's awful it's still there but that's out of his hands right now.
Now I'm certainly trying not to be mean or insult you in anyway keep that in mind, it's just some sillyness going on in your post running rampant. I mean hell College Humor was more fair to the man.
I doubt it....he's horrible. I'd rather have Palin or anyone at this point over Obama....
@Undergroundgod said:
"I am Black, and I don't want him... I didn't want him the first time... I wanted a Black President don't get me wrong... Just not him. Not his Wife either... I am not a fan of the First Lady. I like Obama don't get me wrong, I just think he is a piss poor President is all... I would kick it with him any time. I said he wouldn't be able to do anything worth while, and look he has not. 4 More years... Won't matter... Truth is he will be re elected again in 2012. I just don't care. "
I give you a lot credit man, I'm not black but I am latino and a minority regardless and I'm sure you get the same bs people give me..."what, you're a minority and NOT for Obama?!?" What's wrong with you?!?!? lol but I'm like umm, sorry but I'm not for socialist or extreme radicals...which Obama is...not to mention if anything he makes us look very weak if you think about it...he's always bowing down to everyone literally...(and he can't even do that right, the japanese emperer....nuff said lol) and pretty much blames us for everything wrong and preaches "things we have to do yet doesn't actually do them"...
The only thing he's done is pass a shitty healthcare bill which sucks for half the country, and good for the lazy bums out there who want the government to give them everything and live off other hard working people....lame. What people don't realize is it's quality, not quantity....
@Nick, dude he passed the most controversial healthbill in history....not good when it's controversial lol...and the closing of Guatanamo Bay=freaking retarded and FAIL...ohh let's just release the terrorists from lock up...Obama is on drugs...
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Do you remember the last guy in office that got us into a war for non existent WMD's? Remember how said guy got re-elected?
I hope you kidding. You would rather have the woman that couldn't even run Alaska and became another clown on Faux News, who has less experience than Obama, who single handidly curbstomped the McCain campaign? The woman doesn't even know history and wants to compare him to Reagan despite clearly not knowing a damn thing about Reagan?
Shes not fit to be Vice President much less run the country.
Show me some evidence of how much of a socialist the man is or how much of an extreme radical he is. He's bowed like what 8 times? Sure it's fun to poke fun at, but he's not bowing to every single person, much less it being a sign of weakness. Bush was holding hands and kissing people on the cheek when they came to the white house.
Show me where he's putting any unjust blame on the US.
I doubt either of us know it's shitty or not. It's not good when it's controversial? Should I point out the government finnally getting around to letting women or black men voting being controversial at the time? Or about the half a dozen other things that large somes of people fought tooth and nail against that worked out just fine? Most of the people that fought the bill didn't even know a damn thing about it and still don't. Theres plenty of BS thats still out there on it that are completely fabricated rumors you have being emailed to people to scare them.
WTF are you talking about just releasing the terrorists? They would still be in jail, just not in another country and everything would go by the book. The President is on drugs for keeping a campaign promise and signing an executive order to shut that abomination Gitmo down for good? It's awful it's still there but that's out of his hands right now.
Now I'm certainly trying not to be mean or insult you in anyway keep that in mind, it's just some sillyness going on in your post running rampant. I mean hell College Humor was more fair to the man.
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I love that people think Obama is a socialist, most wouldn't know socialism if it bit their nuts off.
@TheNooseIsLoose: im just trying to show you my side of it and that bush administration meant good work for me and alot of people for over 20 years 2003-2024 and obama canned it... and dont get me wrong im not saying bush was a great president or anything he had major flaws but his administration was good for me and my community.... as im sure others people prospered that were in jobs like mine.... there is a ying and yang whats good for you might not be good for me.... im sorry im upset at the administration that practically took my life away i have no college education and i was at a job making 60 grand working a 40 hour 9-5 monday - friday it was a pretty sweet deal (sure i busted my ass while i was work loading trucks and packing boxes) but i had my weekends a new car and was planning on buying a house the american dream u know and the bush administration gave that and this administration took it away isnt it my right to be bitter about it especailly cause i didnt even vote for the guy...i can see if i voted for him i couldnt be that upset but i didnt i voted mc cain for cause inside i knew that this would happen
"I love that people think Obama is a socialist, most wouldn't know socialism if it bit their nuts off. "
People just saying things to say things, even if it doesn't at all make sense. Like any rediculous comparison to Stalin or Hitler that any 5th grader that reads history can laugh at. @oiHooliganismoi said:
" @TheNooseIsLoose: im just trying to show you my side of it and that bush administration meant good work for me and alot of people for over 20 years 2003-2024 and obama canned it... and dont get me wrong im not saying bush was a great president or anything he had major flaws but his administration was good for me and my community.... as im sure others people prospered that were in jobs like mine.... there is a ying and yang whats good for you might not be good for me.... im sorry im upset at the administration that practically took my life away i have no college education and i was at a job making 60 grand working a 40 hour 9-5 monday - friday it was a pretty sweet deal (sure i busted my ass while i was work loading trucks and packing boxes) but i had my weekends a new car and was planning on buying a house the american dream u know and the bush administration gave that and this administration took it away isnt it my right to be bitter about it especailly cause i didnt even vote for the guy...i can see if i voted for him i couldnt be that upset but i didnt i voted mc cain for cause inside i knew that this would happen "
First sentence doesn't add up, so I'm not going to even bother with the rest.
@oiHooliganismoi: That sucks man, the economies been sh*t for my dads construction company too, but I'm going to keep voting for who I think is good for the community not myself.
@Vance, liberals, democrats either way you look at it it's either...no need to deny it. It's kind of obvious.
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Are you doing this because a while back I insisted you were a conservative? "
I know MKF30 pretty well, Vance, and I can tell you he is NOT a conservative on many issues. He calls himself an Independent, so I will take him on his word that an Independent is what he is.
I am faaaaaaaaar more conservative than he is and you can call me that if you want...but don't ever call me a republican. I'm a proud Libertarian and have been for over 20 years. I am so Libertarian, I am practically an anarchist. The only thing that I want to give the government my tax dollars for is to protect me from the country's enemies...foreign and domestic. Every other aspect of our lives is better handled by the private sector as far as I'm concerned.
" When you become owner of the worst garbage dump in town and start trying to clean things up, people will still complain that it's the worst garbage dump in town and it's all your fault. "
Well said! People seem to forget the trouble that was left for the current administration to clean up. Politics and race aside, I like what he is trying to do. Everything wont succeed but at least he is trying something instead of just doing a kanye shrug like his predecessor . Seriously though im 90 percent sure that he will win a 2nd term for three reasons, 1) the GOP still doesnt get that the way that they have ran there elections an mudslinged it isnt working as well as it used too. 2) there isnt a strong popular GOP candidate, "yet" 3) Despite the picture the media paints he has accomplished a few things that he set out too. And in all fairness there are a lot of people whose present conditions cant be blamed on the current administration. At least not yet.
" @Roxanne Starr: I agree. However, I will become president in five years from now. Just wait. "
And you will probably win because you are so wishy-washy, mon amie.
You would not campaign on any issue. The result would be that no one would know what you were going to do, so they'd vote for you just to get rid of the incumbant. Heck, I'd vote for you!!!
i doubt it. I think really people as a whole are getting tired of the whole right left thing, He hasnt met most who voted for him expectations (no matter how high they were). I think the real question should be should congress have term limits? Honestly they hold the power and both sides are just as corrupt as the other.
@Bastard samurai: what do you mean should congress ahve term limits? of course theys hould. both sides [house and congress] should have 2 terms each period. why do you think the capitol building sits on a hill? not because they remind the person in the oval ofice that s/he is not above everyone its so that they can show everyone they are above all.
Am I the only one here who is totally revulsed by the thought of wearing Obama's shoes? This thread is disgusting! I'm outta here...
Pat, pat, pat...
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I'm here lol sorry my PC had issues past 2 days.... and yes I agree lol. There's a lot of well known people out there I wouldn't want to wear their clothes such as Obama and Lady Gaga to name a few off hand lol...many more though I assure you ;)
but seriously...who'd want to be in his shoes? People make their own bed know what I mean?
But @Vance, just calling it how I see it bud. Not doing anything...everyone has opinions on the matter.
lol@ noose's comment, obviously someone doesn't know what socialism is....
Obama lovers...gotta love em. ;)
@Hellos, we already been thru all that man. He's gotten ripped by majority for doing all that I listed except maybe the bill(which is still 50/50 anyway) it's not like everyone whole is for that...
Like I've said before, only time will tell and I'll be surprised if he gets re-elected...the way he's going now.
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